Even assuming they have two teams, I highly doubt NGL is already on another Strikers game. My guess is that they're probably already on Luigi's mansion 4 considering how big the third game was (12 million sales), and it could maybe be a first year title for the next gen Nintendo console. If they do have a second project, my guess is that it would be either a Punch-out game, or simply a new IP. I don't see the point of doing another Strikers this early to be honest.
If they only have one team, I agree with you. If they're up to two, the reason would be because it's a new system. The original Strikers and Strikers Charged came out back-to-back, less than two years apart, because one was for the Gamecube and the other the Wii.
Camelot also did Tennis to Tennis before going back to Golf, because it was across systems.
I also doubt we get a new Punch-Out so long as that cast remains what it is and the internet remains what it currently is. I don't think Nintendo wants the headache.
If a new Mario sluggers do actually exist, I actually think it could release on Switch. It would probably be developped by Bandai Namco like past titles in the franchise, and I could see it being announced this summer and released early this fall, as one of the last "big" Switch exclusives. I don't think Sluggers is the type of game that really need to be held off for next gen.
By this logic the next Camelot game kind of has to be Golden Sun, because why would Sluggers not be the kind of game made for next gen but something like Tennis or Golf would? And any logic that assumes we'd get GS is questionable, because it's GS.
Though, I agree Sluggers doesn't have to be for the next thing if it exists, but it's not so much "holding games off" for next gen rather than us being at the point where games are now just being developed for that system from the get-go. So whether Sluggers or something else, it just depends on when game development started, and what their intention was. Development of some of those games has to start before the system is actually out.
Also, my point was in response to SPEN18's suggestion that Mario Sports could be a priority for Nintendo (therefore Tennis/Golf over GS), and my response was that Mario Sports doesn't just have to be Tennis or Golf. Under the hypothetical that some Mario Sport is a priority for Nintendo, that would be the motivation to get Sluggers on the next thing rather than the current thing. Or having NLG return to Strikers. I'm not saying Mario Sports
will be a priority (in fact I said it doesn't usually seem to be for the first year), I was just going with that possible scenario.
I think Nintendo could have a strong first year for their next console. Looking at their studios, here's what team I could easily see having a game ready for launch:
-EPD 4: This is the team that make smaller scale family game. They released a game almost every year on Switch (2017 was 1-2 switch, 2018 was Nintendo labo, 2019 was Ring fit, 2021 was Game builder garage and 2022 Switch sports). With how fast they release game, they could have a party game ready for the next console, or maybe a Ring fit sequel considering how huge Ring fit was.
-EPD 8: This is the 3d Mario team. Their last game is Bowser's fury, and their last big title is actually Odyssey. Rumors is that they're working on a 3d DK game, which I can see launching with their next console.
-EPD 9: This is the Mario kart team, and they also made Arms. They made nothing since Arms and they're just working on the MK8DX DLC, so I could easily see them having a MK9 at launch.
-NDCube: They usually have a very fast release schedule and Mario party game are actually a fairly big deal, I could see them having another party games ready for the next console already.
-Intelligent systems: Like NDCube, they have a very fast release schedule. Rumors is that they're working on some FE remake, and this could maybe be moved for the next console.
-Retro studios: They're still on Metroid prime 4, but at this point I could see it being a cross gen title.
-Platinum games: Not a Nintendo studios, but they work often with Nintendo and we know that they had some idea for Astral chain 2, so maybe it could happen for the next console.
-Koei tecmo: Again, not a Nintendo studios, but they often work together on Warriors game, and those games have very fast release schedule too, so maybe they could have a Mario warriors or something ready for the next console similar to Fire emblem warriors who released on the Switch first year.
There's others studios but I'm not going to mention them because I doubt they would have a game ready if they very recently released a big game (such as Monolith with Xeno 3, EPD 3 with TOTK and EPD 10 with Pikmin 4). But I still have 8 potential games that I could think of (a party game by EPD 4, a 3d DK, Mario kart 9, a Mario party, Fire emblem, Prime 4 as cross gen, Astral chain 2 and a new Nintendo warriors). Of course I'm just speculating and I could be totally wrong, but even assuming only 5 of my prediction acually happen and they have only, say 3d DK, Mario kart 9, Prime 4 as a cross gen title, an EPD 4 party game and a Fire emblem remake, I think it would be a solid line up for a first year. I mean, Mario kart 9 alone would be huge enough imo to sell the console like hot cakes.
Yeah, for the most part I agree these titles could show up early in the game's lifespan, and I even mentioned most of them in a previous post.
I think DK and MP4 have both been moved to the next thing, though it's feasible Metroid cross-releases. FE could've moved as well, I think it's been in development for a long time at this point. But it is presumably a remake, which are more often system twilight fodder than original titles. Look at Echoes. Also FE is frequent enough that if this one isn't for the next system, within a few years one will be on there regardless. So that one could go either way.
I do think we'll get a follow-up to Ring Fit, because of how crazy successful it was, though it being in the first year I'm skeptical about, just because that team usually makes the tech-demo-esque supercasual launch title, don't they?
And I'm not expecting a Pokémon main series entry on the next system in its first two years. Pokémon has always been the last major Nintendo franchise to get a mainline game on the newest console and GF has a reputation for continuing to support older hardware.
First year fair enough. I don't think GF is going to spend a second year on Switch after the next thing is already out. Two years into the next system is probably when Gen X is set to arrive, and putting that on the Switch seems counterproductive.
Yeah, that seems logical. I’m kind of hoping that Smash releases at a time where Gen 9 is kind of old news but Gen 10 hasn’t been revealed yet. I feel like that’s the best chance an older Pokémon like Gengar has. It has the advantage of being promoted in every generation and usually gets represented in whatever current gimmick is of each Gen like a Mega and a Gigantimax. There are plenty of cool Gen 9 Pokémon too so it’s not the end of the world if we don’t get Gengar.
That's going to be next year, assuming the 3-year Gens hold.
Sadly it's not going to give an older Pokemon much of a shot, it's just going to mean the promo Pokemon isn't even that current anymore. Look at Incineroar being in Ultimate the year before the next gen came out, when they had already moved from Alola back to the Kanto remakes.
I guess the upside is is that it seems pretty unlikely we get Smash next year, as that wouldn't really be congruent with the dev team having disbanded after Sora. So when the new Smash does happen... it's possible they take from Gen X instead of someone who is very old news. Though, again, sadly, that will likely preclude
any old Pokemon, from any old gen. The Pokemon-Smash cycle is a bummer.
Those were quick cash grabs to promote a mobile game and lack the traditional Pokémon gameplay.
FFXI and XIV are MMORPGs, but it's kind of difficult to argue that a numbered Final Fantasy game isn't mainline.
These are Gen 1 remakes made by GF. They're mainline titles, even with some Go mechanics. But even if they weren't, Sword and Shield still predate New Horizons. And Dread.
The problem with saying it's the last major franchise to get a title is that Nintendo is Nintendo so some major series just have bad attendance (like Metroid, if it counts as major, or Star Fox, when it did) and can skip entire consoles. E.g. potentially Donkey Kong.
I feel like you guys are being a bit too harsh on someone just for using a term incorrectly. I’m pretty sure by mainline, they meant the first game in a generation. Anyways, it’s all just semantics and it seems kind of silly to tell someone to “take an L” just for having a different view on what makes a game mainline to them.
Well, it's not just semantics if he wants to then predicate when GF will start supporting the next console on those terms, which is how this started.
It seems to me that GameFreak classifies mainline as all new games of a generation as well as any updated versions (like Emerald) and remakes (like Fire Red). Let’s Go would fall into that second category. I do think it’s reasonable for a casual fan to just go by the base intro game (like Red or Blue) as their definition of mainline, even if it isn’t entirely accurate according to GameFreak since that’s how the term is used in most other long running series like Final Fantasy, Dynasty Warriors, Dragon Quest, or Disgaea. I’m curious if Square-Enix or their fans consider FFVII Remake a mainline Final Fantasy game as that seems to be a good analogy to Let’s Go.
If it's a remake or an updated version of a mainline title, presumably it's a mainline title. Just not an original mainline title. Like, FF7R is mainline because FF7 is mainline. But it's not new, it's not FF16, it's a remake.
To that end I think something like FE is weird for giving remakes their own (informal) numbers, since while they're distinct releases, they're not distinct games. In theory something like FE11 should be Awakening, as FE11 and 12 are just FE1 and 3 again, but... that's not how they do it there.
