Official Next Smash - Speculation & Discussion Thread

[Noipoi]

The Smash 6 reveal is gonna have the Bananza Donkey Kong design stanced up like this

 

[Fa7oFuru]

Okay, I got one that will make everyone happy. What about Mallow from Super Mario RPG? I heard people really want a character from that game.

It's not my preference by any means but at this point I would take it. SMRPG fans are in no position to be picky-choosey for which of Geno and Mallow get in so while I would prefer Geno you won't see me crying about Mallow getting in if Geno can make cameos ala Rex in Aegis moveset or appears as an Assist

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

I honestly think Mallow's weather powers would make for a more intriguing moveset than Geno's but I'm also realistic enough to accept that the latter has the real demand.

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

The raging popularity to bring back sure is good evidence

Why bring him back for 4 if it wasn't?

Especially when Lucario fulfills his archetype



Free title remake of the first title isn't exactly mainstream relevancy and Earthbound is such a blanket statement that applies to almost every franchise already in and even then that description is kinda overstated

Undertale is its own popularity which comes with other inspirations that isn't Mother. I argue this is probably reason why they would be cut if push really comes to shove over Puff.

Undertale is much relevant and popular in the modern day than Mother really was. Show anyone a pic of Ness and Sans or even just mention the games and find out who actually "legendary"

They couldn’t even bother to get Mewtwo in the base roster of Smash for. I also don’t think it was a mistake that the irrelevant Ice Climbers were prioritized over Mewtwo and Jigglypuff in Brawl. In case you aren’t aware Jigglypuff was one of the last characters added to Brawl, along with Sonic, Toon Link and Wolf.

I personally think Mewtwo should be in every Smash game, but Pokemon is a series that is doomed to get cuts the more they add. You can’t expect them to keep every Pokèmon just because “it’s Pokèmon”.

I think they are going to want to prioritize bringing back popular Pokémon from other generations like Lucario and Greninja before Mewtwo again. Not saying Mewtwo won’t come back, but it’s not a guarantee.

If you want to talk about people raging about characters getting cut, cutting Ness and Captain Falcon will most definitely get a bigger outcry from Smash fans than cutting Jigglypuff or Mewtwo again.

 

[Arcanir]

The raging popularity to bring back sure is good evidence

Why bring him back for 4 if it wasn't?

Especially when Lucario fulfills his archetype

Well for one, Lucario doesn't play like Mewtwo.

 

[Perkilator]

New Dream Smasher? I hardly know ‘er!

…I’ll see myself out.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

They couldn’t even bother to get Mewtwo in the base roster of Smash for. I also don’t think it was a mistake that the irrelevant Ice Climbers were prioritized over Mewtwo and Jigglypuff in Brawl. In case you aren’t aware, it is known that Jigglypuff was a last minute character added to Brawl, Sonic and the last minute clone characters (Toon Link and Wolf).

I personally think Mewtwo should be in every Smash game, but Pokemon is a series that is doomed to get cuts the more they add. You can’t expect them to keep every Pokèmon just because “it’s Pokèmon”.

I think they are going to want to prioritize bringing back popular Pokémon from other generations like Lucario and Greninja before Mewtwo again. Not saying Mewtwo won’t come back, but it’s not a guarantee.

If you want to talk about people raging about characters getting cut, cutting Ness and Captain Falcon will most definitely get a bigger outcry from Smash fans than cutting Jigglypuff or Mewtwo again.

Some of this is slightly off; all the characters in Brawl were in the base plan. Nobody was literally added last minute as an idea. It's just that some didn't have the development time to be in till last minute. That includes the Forbidden 7. Overall, 46 characters were planned, but only 39 made it in overall.

Wolf, Toon Link, and Jigglypuff were all intended to be in from the start, yes. They were worked on last, apparently(since they aren't in the SSE's main story, this is a presumed situation. It hasn't been entirely confirmed when they were worked on, though, from what I remember?). Sonic at least was known to be worked on later, due to not being actually approved of later on(part of the delays of the game is due to this).

 

[GoldenYuiitusin]

Well for one, Lucario doesn't play like Mewtwo.

Dear ****ing lord, someone's doing the "Lucario is a Mewtwo clone" bull**** here too? Is it that Zizz guy again?

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

Some of this is slightly off; all the characters in Brawl were in the base plan. Nobody was literally added last minute as an idea. It's just that some didn't have the development time to be in till last minute. That includes the Forbidden 7. Overall, 46 characters were planned, but only 39 made it in overall.

Wolf, Toon Link, and Jigglypuff were all intended to be in from the start, yes. They were worked on last, apparently(since they aren't in the SSE's main story, this is a presumed situation. It hasn't been entirely confirmed when they were worked on, though, from what I remember?). Sonic at least was known to be worked on later, due to not being actually approved of later on(part of the delays of the game is due to this).

Yeah, my wording definitely could have been better.

I recall people digging up the file names of the characters, and those 4 were at the bottom of the list implying they were the last ones added.

That is a thing, right? I didn’t hallucinate that, right?

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Yeah, my wording definitely could have been better.

I recall people digging up the file names of the characters, and those 4 were at the bottom of the list implying they were the last ones added.

That is a thing, right? I didn’t hallucinate that, right?

Nope, that's correct too. That's what I couldn't remember well. XD

That said, I'm not sure what the order of the files meant. Maybe it was SSE appearances? Which doesn't inherently mean "order of creation". That said, I do feel that with the SSE taking up so much development time, it's pretty likely they were worked on last(which means after Sonic).

 

[Will]

I honestly think Mallow's weather powers would make for a more intriguing moveset than Geno's but I'm also realistic enough to accept that the latter has the real demand.

A Mallow assist trophy would go hard though

 

[Among Waddle Dees]

New Dream Smasher? I hardly know ‘er!

…I’ll see myself out.

People have had her as a Dream Smasher for years though...

 

[fogbadge]

So here’s a topic I’ve been meaning to bring up, that we’ve probably discussed before but it’s been a while, do you think in the next smash will carry on with Nintendo picking the characters or go back to letting Sakurai pick?

 

[Slime Scholar]

So here’s a topic I’ve been meaning to bring up, that we’ve probably discussed before but it’s been a while, do you think in the next smash will carry on with Nintendo picking the characters or go back to letting Sakurai pick?

Nintendo will probably pick them again. Obviously Sakurai will continue to have some say, like whether or not a character choice is viable, and he can probably make his own suggestions. But it’s Nintendo’s game at the end of the day and it certainly worked out well for Ultimate.

I also, frankly, don’t think Sakurai wants total control of something as front-facing as the roster.