Official Next Smash - Speculation & Discussion Thread

[fogbadge]

It’s a shame because that setting has such a cool aesthetic. It would be cool to see more games take inspiration from that. It doesn’t have to be realistic but I’d love to see more fantasy worlds built from that inspiration.

I sort of get what you mean. There’s a few lesser used myths and things I’d like to see more of in gaming

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I want to see more stages based off properties that don’t have a character rep and, to be specific, third party stages. There’s so much potential there for content.

 

[HyperSomari64]

I want to see more stages based off properties that don’t have a character rep and, to be specific, third party stages. There’s so much potential there for content.

A Neptunia stage. We don't need a playable character, all we just need is all of them on the background cheering up.

 

[fogbadge]

I want to see more stages based off properties that don’t have a character rep and, to be specific, third party stages. There’s so much potential there for content.

any in mind? as i assume you'd want a character with the mass effect stage

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

any in mind? as i assume you'd want a character with the mass effect stage

I don’t want Mass Effect in Smash. It doesn’t really belong.

Some I would like to see would include Perfect Dark, Tetris, Stardew Valley, Fortnite, River City, etc

 

[fogbadge]

I don’t want Mass Effect in Smash. It doesn’t really belong.

Some I would like to see would include Perfect Dark, Tetris, Stardew Valley, Fortnite, River City, etc

really? fair enough I suppose

some of those would be distinct. we don’t have a farm stage yet

 

[Aligo]

A factory of some kind would be really cool stage. The heavy industry always makes for a very diffent feel to the environment.

Can anyone suggest some good potential factory stages?

 

[fogbadge]

A factory of some kind would be really cool stage. The heavy industry always makes for a very diffent feel to the environment.

Can anyone suggest some good potential factory stages?

well there’s frantic factory from DK64, grunty industries from banjo tooie, the pokeball factory from X & Y

couple of factory esc stages in spaltoon, lanayru mining facility in skyward sword if it counts

 

[Dan Quixote]

I really want to see an aquatic stage and another ice or snow stage. It would be cool to see something with an ancient Egyptian or feudal Japanese inspired setting as well but I’m not sure what games those would come from. There are a lot more options for a feudal Japanese setting in games than ancient Egyptian.

I still think Corrin in Smash 4 should've come with a stage like all the other DLC newcomers, cuz I've been in love with the Opera House idea I saw some years ago. That would be a killer aquatic stage with a great aesthetic.

 

[HyperSomari64]

I always wanted an amusement park stage in Smash.
Since Bandai Namco started with rides and attractions before the video games, it would be funny to see a "Namco Park", something like their Marvel Land game for Sega Genesis, but with their older stuff filled there.
Any other ideas? (inb4 Super Nintendo World)

 

[Gnateb]

I think a Madotsuki mii costume would be cool

 

[Stratos]

I wonder how a Super Smash Bros game in the Tactical role-playing genre would be, I think it would be very exciting, some would compare it to the Project X Zone series, but the Project X Zone series consisted of characters and franchises from Bandai Namco, Capcom and Sega although in Project X Zone 2 there was Fiora from Xenoblade Chronicles and Chrom and Lucina from Fire Emblem Awakening all three of which are Nintendo characters. The difference between the two would then be that the Project X Zone series would focus mainly on Bandai Namco, Capcom and Sega characters and franchises, while Super Smash Bros Tactical role-playing mainly on Nintendo characters and franchises.

 

[Dan Quixote]

I think a Madotsuki mii costume would be cool

She'd be one of the few characters to not actually look any worse by virtue of being a Mii.

 

[Sucumbio]

I wonder how a Super Smash Bros game in the Tactical role-playing genre would be, I think it would be very exciting, some would compare it to the Project X Zone series, but the Project X Zone series consisted of characters and franchises from Bandai Namco, Capcom and Sega although in Project X Zone 2 there was Fiora from Xenoblade Chronicles and Chrom and Lucina from Fire Emblem Awakening all three of which are Nintendo characters. The difference between the two would then be that the Project X Zone series would focus mainly on Bandai Namco, Capcom and Sega characters and franchises, while Super Smash Bros Tactical role-playing mainly on Nintendo characters and franchises.

Sure, there can be a weapon triangle too like brawler x sword x gun or something

 

[HyperSomari64]

I wonder how a Super Smash Bros game in the Tactical role-playing genre would be, I think it would be very exciting, some would compare it to the Project X Zone series, but the Project X Zone series consisted of characters and franchises from Bandai Namco, Capcom and Sega although in Project X Zone 2 there was Fiora from Xenoblade Chronicles and Chrom and Lucina from Fire Emblem Awakening all three of which are Nintendo characters. The difference between the two would then be that the Project X Zone series would focus mainly on Bandai Namco, Capcom and Sega characters and franchises, while Super Smash Bros Tactical role-playing mainly on Nintendo characters and franchises.

and it will include cartoonish mascots like the previous Smashes, or it will be Anti-Scrimblo like it's inspiration (PxZ)?

 

[Perkilator]

I wonder how a Super Smash Bros game in the Tactical role-playing genre would be, I think it would be very exciting, some would compare it to the Project X Zone series, but the Project X Zone series consisted of characters and franchises from Bandai Namco, Capcom and Sega although in Project X Zone 2 there was Fiora from Xenoblade Chronicles and Chrom and Lucina from Fire Emblem Awakening all three of which are Nintendo characters. The difference between the two would then be that the Project X Zone series would focus mainly on Bandai Namco, Capcom and Sega characters and franchises, while Super Smash Bros Tactical role-playing mainly on Nintendo characters and franchises.

I guess now’s a good time to shill my PxZ fan rosters, since they feature characters featured in Smash.

 

[Stratos]

and it will include cartoonish mascots like the previous Smashes, or it will be Anti-Scrimblo like it's inspiration (PxZ)?

To be honest, probably the first.

 

[CapitaineCrash]

I want to see more stages based off properties that don’t have a character rep and, to be specific, third party stages. There’s so much potential there for content.

While I don't think it's a bad idea by any means, I think it's a double edge sword. People are already mad enough with some Mii costumes disconfirmation, imagine if we have, say a N.sanity beach stage but with no Crash Bandicoot. Altough I think it could work well if the franchise don't have too much fighters potential. But overall, I think it's better to keep stages with no fighters from smaller first party games, like Endless ocean or retro first party games like Excitebike for example.

I always wanted an amusement park stage in Smash.
Since Bandai Namco started with rides and attractions before the video games, it would be funny to see a "Namco Park", something like their Marvel Land game for Sega Genesis, but with their older stuff filled there.
Any other ideas? (inb4 Super Nintendo World)

Well they could just go with Nintendo land (the Wii U game).

 

[Wonder Smash]

I don’t want Mass Effect in Smash. It doesn’t really belong.

Some I would like to see would include Perfect Dark, Tetris, Stardew Valley, Fortnite, River City, etc

Just to be clear, are you talking about which stages that comes with the characters? Or are you saying you only just want the stages but not the characters?

 

[HyperSomari64]

Just to be clear, are you talking about which stages that comes with the characters? Or are you saying you only just want the stages but not the characters?

the latter

 

[Wonder Smash]

the latter

Well that's...strange. Why only just stages from Fortnite, Perfect Dark, and River City but not the characters? I don't get that. I can understand Tetris and Stardew Valley but those games? Especially a series like River City? I don't get that at all.

 

[fogbadge]

Well that's...strange. Why only just stages from Fortnite, Perfect Dark, and River City but not the characters? I don't get that. I can understand Tetris and Stardew Valley but those games? Especially a series like River City? I don't get that at all.

its just personal preference, only has to make sense to Venus

 

[chocolatejr9]

Well that's...strange. Why only just stages from Fortnite, Perfect Dark, and River City but not the characters? I don't get that. I can understand Tetris and Stardew Valley but those games? Especially a series like River City? I don't get that at all.

Heck, even then there are people who actually WANT a Tetris Block to be playable. Personally, I STILL don't get how that would work, but clearly there's a market of some kind...

 

[Sucumbio]

Heck, even then there are people who actually WANT a Tetris Block to be playable. Personally, I STILL don't get how that would work, but clearly there's a market of some kind...

I would main Tetris Block for real. I forget whichever smash clone has it but there's one with a playable Tetris Block and the moveset is pretty good.

 

[Mamboo07]

I STILL don't get how that would work

Have this moveset concept I found:

 

[Wonder Smash]

its just personal preference, only has to make sense to Venus

Still, you can't get a better representation than a playable one and yet, even when there's so much potential in one, a person would still settle for something much less?

It could be a personal preference but when something is that unusual, I can't help but question if this person is actually serious. And if they are serious, I'm just curious why they think that.

Heck, even then there are people who actually WANT a Tetris Block to be playable. Personally, I STILL don't get how that would work, but clearly there's a market of some kind...

A moveset for a Tetris Block is probably one of the weirdest things to come up with but at the same time, also not impossible. So I can understand both sides on that.

 

[HyperSomari64]

Heck, even then there are people who actually WANT a Tetris Block to be playable. Personally, I STILL don't get how that would work, but clearly there's a market of some kind...

I'm one of those people

 

[Mamboo07]

I'm one of those people

Same.

 

[MBRedboy31]

A couple franchises I really like that should at least get stages are Freakyforms and Fall Guys.

It would be difficult to think of a good character rep for Freakyforms since it’s about your own created creatures and characters, but the shape of the terrain and some of the mechanics are much more constant, and could thus carry the series’ general vibes. It does have some premade creatures, but IDK if any of them really stand out as iconic.

Fall Guys could be hard to make a character for due to how limited the characters’ movesets and mobility are. (You could make up stuff, but would it feel right if they’re acrobatically leaping around the screen and skillfully beating up enemies instead of simply awkwardly trying to grab onto them? I’m not sure, I might have to see it to make a decision.) However, there are several levels that could act as interesting Smash stages and I’d really like to get at least one of them.

 

[DarthEnderX]

I've always loved the rivalry between Ash's Pikachu and Team Rocket's Meowth, too bad we won't see that rivalry again in the new Pokémon anime series.

I know. It was really shocking when Pikachu finally murdered Meowth...

 

[Mamboo07]

A couple franchises I really like that should at least get stages are Freakyforms and Fall Guys.

It would be difficult to think of a good character rep for Freakyforms since it’s about your own created creatures and characters, but the shape of the terrain and some of the mechanics are much more constant, and could thus carry the series’ general vibes. It does have some premade creatures, but IDK if any of them really stand out as iconic.

Fall Guys could be hard to make a character for due to how limited the characters’ movesets and mobility are. (You could make up stuff, but would it feel right if they’re acrobatically leaping around the screen and skillfully beating up enemies instead of simply awkwardly trying to grab onto them? I’m not sure, I might have to see it to make a decision.) However, there are several levels that could act as interesting Smash stages and I’d really like to get at least one of them.

For Fall Guys, I think someone did a moveset:

And a Freakyforms stage would be great, you would go through Meadow, Ocean, City, and Cloudland.
(Or either the dungeons with the bosses as stage hazards)

 

[Gengar84]

If we can’t get a character from Octopath Traveller, I’d love to at least get a stage. The HD-2D aesthetic is really cool and the series has among the best soundtracks I’ve ever heard. It would be a shame to miss out on Octopath music in Smash.

 

[Perkilator]

Like I've said before, base Smash Ultimate could've really used some Spirits and Songs from 3rd party franchises that don't have a fighter.

 

[Isaac: Venus Adept]

I kind of wish they still did spirit events after Sora released, would be a fun way to have some representation from newer Switch games make their way into Ultimate while we're on this long wait for the next Smash game

 

[Wonder Smash]

Like I've said before, base Smash Ultimate could've really used some Spirits and Songs from 3rd party franchises that don't have a fighter.

Didn't it already have spirits from 3rd party franchises? Like, Rayman and Shantae were already spirits in the base game.

 

[Perkilator]

Didn't it already have spirits from 3rd party franchises? Like, Rayman and Shantae were already spirits in the base game.

Yeah, but I'm mostly talking more Spirits and songs from companies already represented on top of what we already have.

 

[Stratos]

Since the new Pokémon anime series featuring Liko and Roy will be released on April 14th, 2023, does this mean there will be future Pokémon movies featuring these two, will it be with Ash and his Pikachu again, or no movies at all? However, I certainly wouldn't want the latter to happen.

 

[Oracle Link]

Im Inspired to ask this beacuse of my own characters but it does apply to others too:
So Smash can only have Videogame Characters Right?
What if a Character was created for A Videogame and still feels like a Videogame Character but had to be repurposed as a Book or something because the creator of the character couldnt make a Videogame?

 

[Opossum]

Im Inspired to ask this beacuse of my own characters but it does apply to others too:
So Smash can only have Videogame Characters Right?
What if a Character was created for A Videogame and still feels like a Videogame Character but had to be repurposed as a Book or something because the creator of the character couldnt make a Videogame?

Well...then the character is a book character, and not a game character.

 

[osby]

Since the new Pokémon anime series featuring Liko and Roy will be released on April 14th, 2023, does this mean there will be future Pokémon movies featuring these two, will it be with Ash and his Pikachu again, or no movies at all? However, I certainly wouldn't want the latter to happen.

I don't see why they wouldn't make movies with the new protagonists as the main characters. Pokemon movies always follow the anime to an extent, there's no reason would stop now just because Ash isn't here anymore (and there's a new Pikachu they can use if they're worried about marketing the movies without it).

Im Inspired to ask this beacuse of my own characters but it does apply to others too:
So Smash can only have Videogame Characters Right?
What if a Character was created for A Videogame and still feels like a Videogame Character but had to be repurposed as a Book or something because the creator of the character couldnt make a Videogame?

How a character even would fee like a video game character if they're from a book?