Official Next Smash - Speculation & Discussion Thread

[DarthEnderX]

Might as well. He's another iconic video game character from the 80s that would have been right at home at this event.

Among others...

While I was pulling that out of my Smash image folder, I found this old chestnut. Maybe some of you want to fill out your own.

 

[Oracle Link]

Brawl's aesthetic was a really weird choice even back then, never understood it. I like it a lot but like wow, it is truly bizarre to me it ever happened.


I love how Jigglypuff manages to stay cute meanwhile Kirby looks like some nightmare creature lol

OMG Dark Fantasy Kirby Looks Terrible! I wonder how a dark fantasy Octorock looks like?
Also Young link just turned into Frodo!

 

[Dinoman96]

Brawl absolutely went for a more realistic art direction compared to other Smash games, as is evident by things like Mario's overalls having visible denim. It was likely done in an attempt to mimick the art direction of Twilight Princess, which was the style of the time.

I always thought that it was just meant to one-up Melee. Melee also had a more realistic and "darker" aesthetic in comparison to Smash 64, and Brawl is just that taken to the next level.

Remember that's how Brawl's reveal trailer opened, with Mario, Link, Kirby and Pikachu transitioning from their Melee designs into their Brawl ones.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl Nintendo Wii Trailer - E3 Trailer

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[Sucumbio]

Man that trailer brings me back. So hype when the codec call rings. I still get goosebumps.

 

[Soy_Man]

Maybe some of you want to fill out your own.

ok

 

[TCT~Phantom]

Among others...

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While I was pulling that out of my Smash image folder, I found this old chestnut. Maybe some of you want to fill out your own.

On mobile so I can’t fill it out but here are mine.
Nintendo: Officer Howard
Sega: Alis Landale (Phantasy Star)
Capcom: Dante
Bandai Namco: Lloyd Irving
Atlus: Demi Fiend
Konami: Alucard
Microsoft: Master Chief
SNK: Iori Yagami
Square Enix: Neku
Platinum: if I could put Howard here I would and do Isaac as the Nintendo pick. If not, idk. 2B also feels like cheating.
Ubisoft: Rayman
Koei Tecmo: Ryu Hayabusa
Bethesda: Dovakhin
Activision: gonna cheat here and say Crash and Spyro. Obviously crash has to come first for Spyro to have his foot in the door so Crash.
Arc Sys: Sol Badguy
Blizzard: Tracer
Sony: Kratos
Valve: Heavy
Indie: Sans
Other: Adol Christin

 

[MrMcNuts]

Yooooooo

 

[Perkilator]

• Nintendo: Bandana Waddle Dee
• Konami: Pass
• Sega: Dr. Eggman
• Capcom: Jill Valentine
• Bandai Namco: Yuri Lowell
• Square Enix: 2B
• Atlus: Jack Frost
• Microsoft: Master Chief
• SNK: Nakoruru
• Platinum: Pass
• Ubisoft: Rayman
• Koei Tecmo: Ryu Hayabusa
• Bethesda: Dovakhin
• Activision: Crash
• Arc Sys: Sol Badguy
• Blizzard: Pass
• Sony: Pass
• Valve: Pass
• Indie: Pass
• Other: Estelle Bright

 

[Sucumbio]

Nintendo: Bandana Waddle Dee
Konami: Alucard
Sega: Dr. Eggman
Capcom: Jill Valentine
Bandai Namco: Yoshimitsu
Square Enix: Kefka
Atlus:
Microsoft: Master Chief
SNK:
Platinum:
Ubisoft:
Koei Tecmo: Rygar
Bethesda:
Activision: Pitfall Harry
Arc Sys:
Blizzard:
Sony: Sir Daniel Fortesque
Valve:
Indie: Shantae
Other:

 

[Mamboo07]

• Nintendo: Bandana Waddle Dee
• Konami: Frogger
• Sega: Dr. Eggman
• Capcom: Amaterasu
• Bandai Namco: Klonoa
• Square Enix: Lara Croft
• Atlus: Jack Frost
• Microsoft: Blinx the Time Sweeper
• SNK: Mai
• Platinum: Wonder Red
• Ubisoft: Rayman
• Koei Tecmo: Ryu Hayabusa
• Bethesda: Doom Slayer
• Activision: Crash
• Arc Sys: Sol Badguy
• Blizzard: Diablo himself
• Sony: Sackboy
• Valve: Heavy
• Indie: Shantae
• Other: Monster from Carrion

 

[Gengar84]

I don’t typically think of my most wanted characters based on developer so this was tough. I had to leave out several of my very most wanted like Fulgore, Illidan, and Xemnas but I’m surprised how much of this I was able to fill out.

Nintendo: Gengar
Bandai Namco: Alphen and Shionne
Capcom: Zero
Sega: Knuckles
Atlus: Mitsuru Kirijo
Konami: Bill Rizer/Lance Bean
Microsoft: The Battletoads
SNK: Unfamiliar
Square-Enix: Magus
Platinum: Jena Anderson
Ubisoft: Ezio
Koei-Tecmo: Lu Bu
Bethesda: DOOM Slayer
Activision: Crash
ArcSys: Sol Badguy
Blizzard: Sarah Kerrigan
Sony: Zegram Ghart
Valve: Chell
Indie: Shovel Knight
Other: Sub-Zero

 

[NintenZ]

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While I was pulling that out of my Smash image folder, I found this old chestnut. Maybe some of you want to fill out your own.

You have the template for this?

 

[Gengar84]

Trying to come with a character for Valve made me realize how fun Chell could be in Smash. I don’t know who here has messed around with Stage Builder but there’s a teleport square you can put in a stage to warp you around. That could be a fun gimmick for the portal gun to make temporary portals that teleport you, enemies, or items from one space to another. Chell isn’t really a character I’ve ever put much thought into before but now I think she could be fun.

 

[RealLuigisWearPink]

Nintendo: Meowth
Bandai Namco: Dig-Dug
Capcom: Phoenix Wright
Sega: Dr. Robotnik
Konami: Bomberman
Microsoft: Conker
SNK: Marco Rossi
Square-Enix: Terra Branford
Ubisoft: Rayman
Koei-Tecmo: Ryu Hayabusa
Bethesda: Doom Guy
Activision: Crash Bandicoot
Valve: Heavy Weapons Guy
Other: Scorpion

 

[Geno Boost]

guys remember the 3d flying man that was cut from magicant in the 3ds version of smash?

well guess what i decided to undo it by fixing his mii costume and this was the result
so its now real!

 

[chocolatejr9]

guys remember the 3d flying man that was cut from magicant in the 3ds version of smash?

well guess what i decided to undo it by fixing his mii costume and this was the result
so its now real!

Hot take: Flying Man would be a good pick for an additional Earthbound rep. Not before Ninten or Porky, of course, but... like an added bonus, I guess? Is that the right term I'm looking for?

 

[fogbadge]

• Nintendo: Toad
• Konami: Bomberman?
• Sega: Tails
• Capcom: Phoenix Wright
• Bandai Namco: Agumon
• Square Enix: Neku
• Atlus: Ryuji
• Microsoft: Grunty
• SNK: i forgot they were a thing
• Platinum: Howard
• Ubisoft: Rabbid Peach?
• Koei Tecmo: Linkle
• Bethesda: who are they again?
• Activision: eugh
• Arc Sys: shrug
• Blizzard: ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, as if
• Sony: who?
• Valve: Chell, maybe?
• Indie: Hollow Knight
• Other: Chibi-Robo

 

[Gengar84]

Does anyone else think about potential cool matchups for your most wanted characters with characters already in Smash? For example, I think a Bill Rizer or Sarah Kerrigan trailer paired with Samus would be really fun to see since all three took a lot of inspiration from Alien and Predator. Sub-Zero or Scorpion facing off against Ryu would be an awesome trailer for me too.

 

[Geno Boost]

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While I was pulling that out of my Smash image folder, I found this old chestnut. Maybe some of you want to fill out your own.

i will replace platinum, sony, blizzard, arc sys, valve, indie with warner bros, embracer group, ea, disney, taito since i dont care about those companies
Nintendo: Isaac
Bandai Namco: Ms. Pac-man as echo or Agumon
Capcom: Hsein-Ko (Darkstalkers)
Sega: Alex Kidd
Atlus: Jack Frost
Konami: Bomberman
Microsoft: Battletoads
SNK: Marco Rossi
Square-Enix: Geno or Boshi as echo
Disney: Penguin (Club Penguin)
Ubisoft: Rayman
Koei-Tecmo: Ryu Hayabusa
Bethesda: Doom Guy
Activision: Crash Bandicoot
Taito: Space Invaders
Warner Bros: Sub-zero
Embracer Group: CATS (Zero wing)
EA: Gem (Bejeweled)
Other: Tetromino

 

[Gengar84]

i will replace platinum, sony, blizzard, arc sys, valve, indie with warner bros, embracer group, ea, disney, taito since i dont care about those companies
Nintendo: Isaac
Bandai Namco: Ms. Pac-man as echo or Agumon
Capcom: Hsein-Ko (Darkstalkers)
Sega: Alex Kidd
Atlus: Jack Frost
Konami: Bomberman
Microsoft: Battletoads
SNK: Marco Rossi
Square-Enix: Geno or Boshi as echo
Disney: Penguin (Club Penguin)
Ubisoft: Rayman
Koei-Tecmo: Ryu Hayabusa
Bethesda: Doom Guy
Activision: Crash Bandicoot
Taito: Space Invaders
Warner Bros: Sub-zero
Embracer Group: CATS (Zero wing)
EA: Gem (Bejeweled)
Other: Tetromino

Embracer Group actually has a lot of solid options. I personally love Raziel (Soul Reaver) and Death (Darksiders) and Borderlands is a ton of fun too. Lara Croft is a gaming icon. If we get CATS, they need to somehow get the rights to the “All Your Base” Newgrounds remix.

 

[Dan Quixote]

I don't usually do these template things but something about this one inspired me

 

[Sucumbio]

So...

Anyone enjoying Fire Emblem Engage? Gotta say I'm pretty hooked. If Alear comes to the next Smash how's it going to work? I wonder if anyone predicted how Byleth would work when they were speculating their addition, or if even Byleth was supported back then before his reveal...

 

[Gengar84]

So...

Anyone enjoying Fire Emblem Engage? Gotta say I'm pretty hooked. If Alear comes to the next Smash how's it going to work? I wonder if anyone predicted how Byleth would work when they were speculating their addition, or if even Byleth was supported back then before his reveal...

I’m on the fence about buying it. I’ve enjoyed every game since Path of Radiance on the GameCube but the art style and ring polishing kind of putting me off on this one. I might still pick it up at some point.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

I shrunk mine to only be characters from companies already in smash.
(Is Activision actually in smash? Can't remember)

I've also included some echoes, Scream tail, Ryunosuke, Shadow, Roxas and Zack.

 

[fogbadge]

If we get CATS

I don’t think stage musicals are allowed

 

[Gengar84]

I shrunk mine to only be characters from companies already in smash.
(Is Activision actually in smash? Can't remember)

I've also included some echoes, Scream tail, Ryunosuke, Shadow, Roxas and Zack.

Ubisoft, Koei-Tecmo, Activision, and ArcSys aren’t is Smash yet as far as I’m aware. Bethesda only has Mii outfits but I guess that counts.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

Ubisoft has the Rabbids and Rayman as spirits, Koei teco is in by proxy since Sofia has a spirit who debuted in a Warriors game and Arcsys has spirits in smash.

 

[chocolatejr9]

I don’t think stage musicals are allowed

Yeah, at least wait until it's public domain...

(Wait, how far am I supposed to take this joke?)

 

[HyperSomari64]

1. Nintendo: Iron Valiant
2. Bandai Namco: Velvet Crowe
3. Capcom: Dante
4. SEGA: Tails
5. Atlus: Jack Bros. (Jack Frost, Jack Skelton, Jack Lantern)
6. Konami: Yugo the Wolf
7. Microsoft: Raz (Psychonauts)
8. SNK: Isla (KOF XV)
9. Square Enix: Tressa (Octopath Traveler)
10. PlatinumGames: Viola (Bayonetta 3)
11. Ubisoft: Rayman
12. Koei Tecmo: Sophie Neuemuller (they own Gust, owners of Atelier)
13. Bethesda: Doomguy
14. Activision: Pitfall Harry
15. Arc System Works: Billy and Jimmy Lee
16. Blizzard: Thrall (Warcraft)
17. Sony: Ratchet & Clank
18. Valve: The Scout
19. Indie: Shovel Knight
20. Other: A Hyperdimension Neptunia rep (Compile Heart) (ANY CHARACTER)

We need an expanded version with more companies.

Spoiler: :4pacman:JOKE ANSWERS:4pacman:

• Nintendo: Lefty RX (A Toy Car that can only go to the left side)
• Bandai Namco: Pac-Man (Ghostly Adventures version)
• Capcom: Clown Girl from Ace Attorney (i know the meme died but come on)
• SEGA: Super Sonic (Fleetway)
• Atlus: Green Phallus Demon (Mara)
• Konami: Vic Viper girl from Otomedius
• Microsoft: McZee (Microsoft Home)
• SNK: USA Sports Team (Heavy D!, Lucky Glauber and Brian Battler)
• Square Enix: WorldRunner
• PlatinumGames: SSB4 Bayonetta
• Ubisoft: Petz Dog
• Koei Tecmo: Star Force spaceship
• Bethesda: Cacodemon
• Activision: Tiny Tiger (Crash of the Titans version)
• Arc System Works: Robo May
• Blizzard: Leroy Jenkins (optionally: Gremlin D. Va)
• Sony: Knack
• Valve: SFM Animations Heavy
• Indie: Grandma (Cookie Clicker)
• Other: The Minions

 

[Hadokeyblade]

I really like the idea of Ryunosuke being an echo of Phoenix if Phoenix ever joins Smash, it just feels right.

 

[CapitaineCrash]

Among others...

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While I was pulling that out of my Smash image folder, I found this old chestnut. Maybe some of you want to fill out your own.

Well Smashboards don't let me upload the pic for some reason so here's what mine have. I remember filling it a few years ago so for fun I'm going to compare what changed or not (I don't remember exactly when I did the original one but it was before Steve release becasue Steve was there). Some characters changed not because I changed my mind and don't want the old character anymore, but because I've been playing way more game than ever so I discovered a bunch of new franchise.

-Nintendo: Akira Howard (was Chorus kids)
-Namco bandai: Donchan (no change)
-Capcom: Jill Valentine (was Phoenix Wright)
-Sega: Kazuma Kiryu (was Ulala)
-Konami: Raiden (was Bill Raizer)
-Microsoft: Master chief (was Steve)
-SNK: Nakoruru (was Marco)
-Square enix: 2B (no change)
-PlatinumGames: Wonder red (no change) (isn't Wonderful 101 literally PG only ip that they own? I know some people put 2B or Akira Howard there but it just feels wrong...)
-Ubisoft: Rayman (no change).
-Koei tecmo: Yuri Kozukata (was Ryu Hayabusa)
-Bethesda: Doom slayer (no change)
-Activision: Spyro (no change)
-Arc systems: Sol badguy (no change)
-Blizzard: Tracer (no change)
-Sony: Sackboy (no change)
-Valve: Left 4 dead survivor (was Gordon Freeman)
-Indie: Shovel knight (no change)
-Other: Scorpion (no change)

 

[fogbadge]

Yeah, at least wait until it's public domain...

(Wait, how far am I supposed to take this joke?)

as far as you like

 

[Stratos]

In order for Waluigi to come as a newcomer in future Super Smash Bros games he needs to have his own game series to have moves based off of that, but since he was made by Camelot Software Planning, unlike the other Mario franchise characters created by Nintendo itself I'd say that's kind of impossible.

 

[Perkilator]

In order for Waluigi to come as a newcomer in future Super Smash Bros games he needs to have his own game series to have moves based off of that, but since he was made by Camelot Software Planning, unlike the other Mario franchise characters created by Nintendo itself I'd say that's kind of impossible.

Counterpoint; there are plenty of things he does in Mario spin-offs that could provide a moveset. And even though I'm not a huge fan of Waluigi, I was able to do just that.

 

[dezeray112]

I'll do ones that I am familiar with:

-Nintendo: Noah or Mio (Xenoblade Chronicles 3)
-Namco Bandai: A Tales of character or a SoulCalibur character
-Capcom: Chun-Li (Street Fighter), Phoenix Wright (Ace Attorney) or Demitri Maximoff (Darkstalkers)
-Sega: Beat (Jet Set Radio)
-Konami: Bomberman
-Microsoft: Jago (Killer Instinct)
-SNK: Rock Howard (Garou: Mark of the Wolves) or Nakoruru (Samurai Shodown)
-Square Enix: 2B or Tidus
-Koei Tecmo: Ryu Hayabusa
-Arc Systems: Sol Badguy or any other Guilty Gear character.
-Sony: Nathan Drake
-Other: Professor Layton

 

[Wonder Smash]

Ubisoft, Koei-Tecmo, Activision, and ArcSys aren’t is Smash yet as far as I’m aware. Bethesda only has Mii outfits but I guess that counts.

Well actually, Ubisoft has Rayman as a spirit and Altair as a Mii costume, Koei Tecmo has Fatal Frame characters as an assist trophy and spirits, and Arc System Works has River City/Kunio-kun characters as spirits.

 

[SPEN18]

Anyone enjoying Fire Emblem Engage?

I haven't got it yet but plan to get it soon.

From what I've seen around the net, the story and characters are hit-and-miss (allowing myself to overgeneralize, I think people who want a more serious/mature story are finding it cringe or cliché, but people who are okay with a bit of anime silliness are enjoying it).

Lots of people are telling me that the tactics are top-notch so far and among the best in the series, which is great to hear; I am still personally concerned that the Engage mechanics are way too overpowered, but even if that turns out to be the case, the game should still at least be pretty amenable to challenge runs if you want more difficulty.

The social aspects I have also seen varying opinions on. Apparently they are scaled back and streamlined a bit from TH? Some reviewers knocked that as a "step back" from TH, while others are saying it's better and comes with less mandatory chore. I guess it really just depends on how you felt about TH to begin with and where you land in terms of social aspects in FE in general; those are already longtime hot topics within the fandom.

Overall I have high hopes for the game and am excited to get into it.

 

[fogbadge]

I haven't got it yet but plan to get it soon.

From what I've seen around the net, the story and characters are hit-and-miss (allowing myself to overgeneralize, I think people who want a more serious/mature story are finding it cringe or cliché, but people who are okay with a bit of anime silliness are enjoying it).

I don’t want serious and mature stories and I still find it a bit cringe worthy

But I expect that from jrpgs

 

[SPEN18]

I don’t want serious and mature stories and I still find it a bit cringe worthy

But I expect that from jrpgs

like I said, it was a purposeful overgeneralization

also remember I haven't played it myself yet I was just trying to summarize what I've been hearing from people

thank you for the feedback, though

 

[fogbadge]

like I said, it was a purposeful overgeneralization

also remember I haven't played it myself yet I was just trying to summarize what I've been hearing from people

thank you for the feedback, though

nothing wrong with serious and mature but I do prefer it when someone during development says “let’s go nuts”

still it’s early days they may yet grow on me