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While I’m probably late, Sol and Ragna would be so cool because that would get us an insane amount of Daisuke Music. They’re my most wanted for a reason.
Nintendo: Isaac (Golden Sun), Bubbles (Clu Clu Land)Among others...
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While I was pulling that out of my Smash image folder, I found this old chestnut. Maybe some of you want to fill out your own.
That's where you're mistaken. He was actually behind the development of the modern cellphone, which has no tactile buttons to fit his sacred rule, so he could contract his willing peons. Need proof? Yuji Naka. Who else has a J in their name? Steve Jobs.
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what’d he do to the stoners?
Yeah, fair enough. I'm still gonna mention Balan Wonderworld every now and then, though: I'm one of those weird people who actually LIKED that game.
That's "The Man Who Raged Against the Storm", to you!
The combination of Crash being revitalized in the past 5 years and him being the last major platforming mascot not in Smash has given some long lasting momentum, even if the next SSB is some ways off.
Watch me be completely wrong but i wouldnt be surprised if the next smash game's base game third party newcomers were Crash and Lloyd.
Nintendo: Raven BeakAmong others...
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While I was pulling that out of my Smash image folder, I found this old chestnut. Maybe some of you want to fill out your own.
Haha I was joking with the sad reaction image but I feel ya. There's plenty of characters in space sometimes like Lloyd or Dante.
No, his DNA mostly belongs to Maze games like Pac-Man
Yeah I figured, I just couldn't find the word for his genre but you right
I think that if Ultimate had about double the number base newcomers, we might have gotten Rayman. He and Shantae were the only two third party series to receive only spirits in the base game, an it's weird that a big company like Ubisoft would agree to such a small presence in the game unless at least one of the parties involved really want him in the game. This is the second smash game in a row this has happened! Unfortunately for him, I feel like his obscurity in Japan is the reason he hasn't been DLC, it would be a tough sell. If the series is doing well by the time the next game comes around... I would say he's the second most likely third party behind a Deltarune character. An idea I've had is a Smash Direct revealing Rayman and a character with lopsided popularity the other way, so someone like Reimu. The reveals would swap order based on which region you're viewing the direct in, with the less popular character being revealed at the start of the direct and the more popular one being at the end. I don't know if it would work, but it would be a fun experiment if nothing else.
Ignoring Ubisoft's "expectations" for sparks of hope, I hope it does decent over in Japan like the last game and that they dip into the dlc and learn more about the lad.
I totally agree with you. I also think that if the Activision deal goes through, him being technically a Microsoft characters will actually boost his chances by a lot (assuming that Phil Spencer is still CEO of Xbox).
My problem with Lloyd is that at this point his game is starting to get very old. I know that he still have a huge dedicated fanbase, but if there's only 2 spots for third party in base game, I'm not sure they would really choose Lloyd. Personally if I had to guess, I think they would add Crash Bandicoot + either Leon or Jill from Resident evil (or maybe both with one of them being echo similar to Simon and Richter).Resident evil has been going very strong in the last years, and Village has push the popularity of the franchise to new heights.
I would be shocked if Rayman gets a new game by the time the next Smash comes. I'm sorry but imo Rayman chances has never been his low, even Ubisoft doesn't really seems to care that much about the character anymore.
That's a dlc not a game. If they cared this much about him he would be playable in base game. The fact that he's not going to interact with the Mario cast in the dlc just show that either Nintendo or Ubisoft have a problem with the character.
If it's like the DK DLC from the first game this barely counts.
Fair point.
If they had a problem with him they wouldn't even let him in at all and would have opted for them to push one of their other IPs. That's a weird way of moving the goal post.
How am I moving the goal post? I said I would be shocked if he had a new game and you show me a screenshot of a dlc. Like Hadokeyblade said, this like arguing that DK had a new game because he was in the DK adventure. And besides, this would have been a cool opportunity to have Rayman finally meet Mario, which is something that fans wanted to see for a long time, but the dlc will not even do that.
It's moving the goal post of saying Nintendo and Ubisoft have no interest in the IP which is false. It also hasn't been confirmed if he'll at least meet Mario or not.
That does seem to be the biggest criticism towards Engage. Then again, some people were clearly expecting Three Houses 2, so maybe it's not ENTIRELY the game's fault...
You weren't. It's a misreading.
The convenient thing for Rayman is that his series is a platformer. Regardless of if it's 2D or 3D, platformers are much easier and quicker to develop than Assassins' Creed or Beyond Good and Evil or what have you. It wouldn't be that hard for someone in the company to be "you know what I think we're gonna do another Rayman" and just do it. Ubisoft Montipeller, the guys who have been doing the series, aren't really up to much (beyond the perpetual hell of Good and Evil 2), so it's not impossible that they decide to crank out a Rayman or something in the meantime. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if an indie dev reached out to Ubisoft and asked "hey can we do a Rayman" Ubi would at least consider it.
I've posted it twice here now but the game's director said in an interview that Nintendo shot down a lot of the teams ideas for sparks of hope so they were just as protective with Mario as ever, so agreeing to let Rayman show up in a Mario game bodes well no matter how ya cut it.
I think it's more that it doesn't suddenly help his presence in Japan become way larger, which is part of the issue.
As for getting new games? Slightly agree, you can compare that to DK a lil.I think it's more that it doesn't suddenly help his presence in Japan become way larger, which is part of the issue.
It also doesn't necessarily mean he'll start getting new games where our only related examples are DK who got none after.
Basically, people are pessimistic due to a precedent set by the previous DLC; whoever is in it doesn't have their presence changed(in other words, they don't suddenly get a new game or anything like that). It's a big deal in a sense of Rayman being used, but there's no results that show this usage will amount to anything.
This isn't saying optimism is blind either. It's absolutely great in this situation, and I'm glad to see it gives the fans something fun to talk about. I do, as I said before, hope it leads to great things.
To say the least, I'm raising an eyebrow at it because there's not enough reason for me to believe it'll definitely help his situation. But I think it's plausible. I'm not highly optimistic, but I'm not outright pessimistic either.
I hope this helps explains why some aren't jumping at the idea being "definitely good".
It's more DK's franchise didn't get anything to begin with(did it even get ports since then? I might be off on that). That's a big reason why it is hard for people to be optimistic since the evidence shows another side of the story. DKC at most could've gotten some DLC spirits or a character when it comes to Smash. Rayman is in Smash, just not playable, so overall speaking, while the situation isn't the same, they aren't that off in the long run. The original Mario + Rabbids did get content in Smash, though, so I can also see that suggesting that Rayman has a fair reason to get something in the next Smash. I don't think it inherently puts him higher on the plausibility of playable, but I do think the relevance, as you said, helps to some degree.
