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I believe half the problem was that upper management was pushing for live-service elements and microtransactions, including for Project G.G. Babylon's Fall is just the most visible part of the issue, being a live-service (I think?) game that did release and absolutely bombed
Yeah it was originally supposed to come out in like 2019 I think but then was said to be a game as a service in like 2021 when it showed up at E3, was slapped with heavily negative reviews, only had a concurrent player count of like 1000-1200 on Steam, dropping to literally one guy in 2 months (it released in March and Rock Paper Shotgun interviewed the only guy still playing it in May).
Could go either way for her. She's one of the characters I'm torn on and could genuinely see being 50/50.
It’ll happen eventually. Definitely gonna get some “literally who” comments though.
I mentioned this a while ago but sometimes getting into Smash is all a matter of two people being in the same room together and one of them thinking:
I mean Matt Bozon specifically said they sent artwork to Nintendo "to be used at their discretion, on the off chance they could include her in some way", so I would assume they knew it was for Smash, but didn't know to what capacity? I mean if I remember right Nintendo also asked Ubisoft for Rayman art as references so they could make a model for his trophy in 4, but Ubisoft sent a model instead, so I imagine it'd be a similar situation.
Although that’s the case with most characters even in series that are popular but they don’t happen as frequently.Definitely gonna get some “literally who” comments though.
I get what you're saying about looks being important, but there's no one in Smash who looks quite like this:
I think so as well, and I think Doomguy will join them as well.
As I previously noted, I think Shantae and Shovel Knight are among a group of maybe 4-5 indies of whom any I could easily see as the series' first indie playable. If none of them are playable in the next smash game, an expansion of their current level of representation would also not be surprising.
Ah yes, Shovel Knight, Shantae and Doom Slayer.
Well Doom 1 and 2 WERE published by Id themselves...
I feel like she's been discussed fairly often. The gist of it is that her titles don't have raw sales and mainstream recognition like some other indies have, but the series has been going on semi-consistently for quite a while and developed a solid cult fanbase, and the Half-Genie Hero Kickstarter dropped during the initial indie Kickstarter boom, was able to capitalize on that fanbase, and dropped at the right time to channel some of that energy into the Smash ballot. This all leaves her with a decent level of support in the Smash fanbase, enough for Sakurai to take note and secure her a Mii Costume. Plus, WayForward's a pretty solid supporter of Nintendo systems, so if Sakurai ever felt the need for Shantae, the negotiations shouldn't be too difficult.
I've wanted to say I'm kinda averse to "(x) could be an assist" comments, less because I think it's an insult to the characters and more that, well... I don't think many of these characters would actually make good assists. I get the appeal of giving characters a shoutout even if they're not on the roster, but a lot of these assists boil down to "person shows up, runs around, and throws out a couple different attacks" and it only makes me think "Man, I wish I could play as that guy." Prime examples of those "sorry, not a fighter"-type assists are Zero, Black Knight, Alucard, and the aforementioned Shovel Knight. I don't want to single out your comment in particular, it's just part of a general feeling I've had
She should be DLC so she can come with a "Let Me Solo Her" Mii OutfitCould always opt for Malenia to represent Elden Ring instead given she had high prominence in marketing and is seen as a mascot for the game.
She's recognizable and distinct enough, I'd say.
As someone who wanted Shovel Knight in Ultimate, I'm just glad he got something worthwhile and wasn't just ignored, my grievances with the lack of Mii Costume like other indies aside.
Yeah, from a representation standpoint, I totally get it. There's only so much time and resources on hand, and therefore only so many fighters that can be added, so it makes sense to throw in those little shoutouts. But from a gameplay perspective, it's basically just an unplayable budget fighter who shows up for a bit, throws out some attacks, and leaves. Even if they're not a fighter, I prefer when the ATs have some sort of support function that makes them more than just a budget fighter, like Isaac's hands or Shadow's Chaos Control.
Wayforward is in a weird case for me. They release games year(s) apart while being available to various systems. (Sometimes just system exclusive like Marble Knights for Apple) Also, deals for the games already released. They don't do much, but make sure people KNOW about their games and the deals. Quality over quantity.
While I haven’t played Astral Chain, it would be cool to see another game come out for its fans. In terms of its chances for a sequel and addition to SSB6, I‘m a little less certain on these. As the game was financially successful (1.3 million copies based on the most recent update), a sequel is not dead in the water, and it may have taken a long time because of other priorities/setbacks taking place. Regarding chances of an Astral Chain fighter being added into SSB6, I think Astral Chain would be one of the five most likely Nintendo IPs getting their first fighter (the others are Ring Fit Adventure, Famicom Detective Club, Golden Sun, and Excitebike) as it is a fresher IP (i.e. introduced during the Switch era), and Sakurai may find Officer Howard to be an interesting fighter.
I think Shantae is one of the more likely indie third party characters to join the roster given her popularity and WayForward’s willingness to collaborate with Nintendo.
It's not just about being contrary to Smash roster. It's about standing up among general perception. I mean we don't have anyone in Smash who look like Call of Duty or GTA protagonists, but almost no one expects them for a good reason. You may argue that Tarnished has more distinction, but from my perspective... I don't think so. I am viewing through average/casual gamer's perspective or even outside of gaming.I get what you're saying about looks being important, but there's no one in Smash who looks quite like this:
Yeah... I was considering mentioning her... but somehow got lazy~Could always opt for Malenia to represent Elden Ring instead given she had high prominence in marketing and is seen as a mascot for the game.
She's recognizable and distinct enough, I'd say.
I think the point isn't really about the character aesthetic, but more about his personality and what he can bring on the table. I feel like there's pretty much nothing Tarnished can do that something like Monster hunter (or any other fantasy rpg avatar) couldn't. The tarnished is meant to be a generic avatar that can wield different weapon. It's not really the type of character that we usually see in Smash (as Monster hunter itself got representation through bosses instead of playable character). Sakurai also said that he need to "see the character dance", or see him do unique thing. I don't really see what Tarnished could really bring on the table.I get what you're saying about looks being important, but there's no one in Smash who looks quite like this:
That's not really true though? If anything, fantasy RPG avatars have more difficulty with the fact that they have too much to pull from.
Monster Hunters also have a lot of personality on display between the various emotes and poses you can have them do as well as some goofy run animations and the like. Hell Wilds' Hunter is a good mix of goofy and being a badass so it's not like you're making an emotionless blank slate that really only shouts a bunch.
I have the feel they add Malenia for a Elden Ring rep rather than the MC as well, she's kind of the mascot of elden ring as you said.Could always opt for Malenia to represent Elden Ring instead given she had high prominence in marketing and is seen as a mascot for the game.
She's recognizable and distinct enough, I'd say.
She's possible, but i think she's more likely to be an AT than playable, but we'll see.
I think these types of ATs would be more fun if they acted like Nana instead of just going around and doing their own thing. Then, you’d have at least a small amount of control over them, and it’d feel like a proper team-up instead of them feeling like a neutral party that just happens to not be able to deal damage to the fighter who summoned them.
I honestly don't get that "literally who" mindset, discovering new characters, stages, items, franchises and etc that you don't know about is fun and part of what makes big crossovers fun, imo. Like i didn't know 90% of the cast of Project x Zone 1 back in 2013 and i still had a lot of fun with the game disovering all of that.It’ll happen eventually. Definitely gonna get some “literally who” comments though.
Kamiya left to form Clovers and took most of the old Clover veterans with him.
25%
Years apart?
