Official Next Smash - Speculation & Discussion Thread

[Master_Scorpion]

RPG characters I’d like are Elma, Noah/Mio, and Delita (Final Fantasy Tactics)

 

[Wonder Smash]

Jojo started off as a manga right? So I think that probably means we shouldn’t expect a character in Smash unless there’s some kind of drastic shift in direction. There are quite a few cool Jojo mods in Ultimate though. Some of them figured out a way to make something like Arsene that follows the movements of the character, though it’s all just visual.

Bahn is not a JoJo character. He's from SEGA's Fighting Vipers games and is inspired by one of the main JoJo protagonists, Jotaro Kujo.

 

[Gengar84]

Bahn is not a JoJo character. He's from SEGA's Fighting Vipers games and is inspired by one of the main JoJo protagonists, Jotaro Kujo.

Oh interesting. I can definitely see the inspiration. I don’t think I’m familiar with Fighting Vipers. He’d be one of the closest things to getting an anime/manga character in Smash.

 

[Wonder Smash]

Oh interesting. I can definitely see the inspiration. I don’t think I’m familiar with Fighting Vipers. He’d be one of the closest things to getting an anime/manga character in Smash.

Yeah and Jotaro is one of my favorite anime/manga characters, so that's why I say Bahn would be one of the coolest characters in Smash.

 

[Kirbeh]

Oh interesting. I can definitely see the inspiration. I don’t think I’m familiar with Fighting Vipers. He’d be one of the closest things to getting an anime/manga character in Smash.

iirc Fighting Vipers technically inspired Sonic the Fighters. One of the programmers put Sonic and Tails in it as a joke (dev side, not accessible normally) but it wound up getting Sonic the Fighters greenlit.

Honey the Cat from STF is based on an FV character.

Fighter Vipers also has one of the greatest guest characters of all time; Pepsiman.

 

[BuckleyTim]

Fighting Vipers is great! Got an import Japanese copy for the Saturn sitting on my shelf as a nice curio. Wish it could get some representation in Smash via assist trophy or what not.

 

[AreJay25]

Fighting Vipers huh.

Oh you mean the fighting game series that has a character that should totally serve as the basis for Excitebiker.

Yeah, these games are kinda wild.

 

[Oracle Link]

I really dig Bendy i just watched the lets play of the ink machine and i am currently watching dark revival!
I love that the two bendy are such an amazing contrast Lil Bendy must be protected!
Also i drew him:

I think he would be really fun in smash!

Spoiler: Dark revival Spoilers

I havent finnished the lp yet but the fact that lil and demon bendy are the same character could lead to an amazing smash moveset were you either on the devensive as lil bendy or tear **** up as demon bendy!

 

[smashkirby]

I've been watching some episodes of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, then I remember this pic:

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then I'm reminded of this character:

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Even though I don't think Bahn has a high chance of getting in Smash, he'd be one of the coolest characters he did.

iirc Fighting Vipers technically inspired Sonic the Fighters. One of the programmers put Sonic and Tails in it as a joke (dev side, not accessible normally) but it wound up getting Sonic the Fighters greenlit.

Honey the Cat from STF is based on an FV character.

Fighter Vipers also has one of the greatest guest characters of all time; Pepsiman.

Fighting Vipers is great! Got an import Japanese copy for the Saturn sitting on my shelf as a nice curio. Wish it could get some representation in Smash via assist trophy or what not.

Fighting Vipers huh.

Oh you mean the fighting game series that has a character that should totally serve as the basis for Excitebiker.

Yeah, these games are kinda wild.

For what it's worth, I would LOVE for either Bahn and/or Honey to join Smash Bros..

Bonus points if Honey the Cat makes it into Smash, either playable or as a deep-cut Assist Trophy.

 

[Will]

Mario’s new down special should be throwing Cappy and I’d like to apply two main mechanics to it

1. If it doesn’t hit an opponent or terrain, it will spin in place for a few seconds. This will disable his side taunt temporarily, and also let Mario bounce off of the hat for extra height.
2. If it hits an opponent, Mario will possess the opponent for a certain amount of time, more seconds granted the higher % they are. If the possessed is KO’d in that body, so will Mario.

You can trust me with #2. I promise I won’t be a fiend and Mariocide as often as possible

 

[The Prankster 16]

If it hits an opponent, Mario will possess the opponent for a certain amount of time, more seconds granted the higher % they are. If the possessed is KO’d in that body, so will Mario.

Sorry, but absolutley no. That sounds like the most anti-fun game mechanic i've ever seen. "Sorry, you don't get to play the game right now! I'm gonna go jump off the ledge!" also where would Mario go? Would he just teleport back to the spot where he possesed them or would he jump out of the other character? I think just having that first part is fine enough. Maybe have it replace cape instead and also work as a reflector since throwing Cappy can bounce back projectiles in Odyssey.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

The funny thing is that given how recurring it's been, the Ice Flower ability would make complete sense for Mario in Smash now, but its yet another projectile and would possibly need some effect gimmick to make it stand out from the Fire Flower. Same thing with the Propeller Hat which suddenly popping in as his up special really wouldn't be that much more outrageous than Sonic's spring, but it really wouldn't quite fit Mario as a general shoto clone.

 

[Guynamednelson]

The funny thing is that given how recurring it's been, the Ice Flower ability would make complete sense for Mario in Smash now

If anything it should probably be given to Luigi. There's been a few times where he's had an ice form while Mario has the fire form, and Iceball was one of his custom Fireball replacements but not Mario's.

But I...don't think some people would like Luigi being able to freeze you and then grab you at long range.

 

[BritishGuy54]

So, Pokémon seem to be teaming up British stop-motion studio Aardman Animation, who are for Wallace and Gromit and Chicken Run, for a new project in 2027.

Very cool.

 

[Ivander]

So, Pokémon seem to be teaming up British stop-motion studio Aardman Animation, who are for Wallace and Gromit and Chicken Run, for a new project in 2027.

Very cool.

Wallace and Growlithe

Not going to lie, there's a part of me that really wants them to have a Trainer/Pokemon Duo approach similar to Wallace and Gromit, just for the awkward stares the Pokemon gives their trainer.

Also, this isn't the first time Nintendo has done a collaboration with Aardman.

 

[Will]

Sorry, but absolutley no. That sounds like the most anti-fun game mechanic i've ever seen. "Sorry, you don't get to play the game right now! I'm gonna go jump off the ledge!" also where would Mario go? Would he just teleport back to the spot where he possesed them or would he jump out of the other character? I think just having that first part is fine enough. Maybe have it replace cape instead and also work as a reflector since throwing Cappy can bounce back projectiles in Odyssey.

It was mostly for the meme anyways.

Forgot about it reflecting projectiles in Odyssey. I’m not against replacing the cape, but I’d still like a different down special.

 

[NintenRob]

Throwing cappy shouldn't be down special. It should be a side special. Look at K Rools crown toss

 

[ninjahmos]

I think, if not better normals, Sonic just needs a new side special. I've been saying this for awhile, but I still think Light Speed Dash would be a cool side special for Sonic, even though I know they're probably not gonna do that.

 

[ScrubReborn]

When it comes to Mario's down B, I'm as basic as a pumpkin spice drinking white girl, just give me Mario Tornado back. It was perfectly functional, simple enough for his default character motif, and worked in his kit fine, no need to overcomplicate things.

Maybe give it some star GFX to make it look like the Galaxy spin tho if you wanna spice it up. Then do the same thing for Luigi.

...I wouldn't throw a fit if the F.L.U.D.D. returned tho. Just think it's a weird move for the default character when almost no other attacks in the game work like that.

EDIT: Oh yeah the Tornado is his down air now. Eh, give him Doc's Goomba Stomp down air too. That's Mario's ****.

 

[Kirbeh]

When it comes to Mario's down B, I'm as basic as a pumpkin spice drinking white girl, just give me Mario Tornado back. It was perfectly functional, simple enough for his default character motif, and worked in his kit fine, no need to overcomplicate things.

Maybe give it some star GFX to make it look like the Galaxy spin tho if you wanna spice it up. Then do the same thing for Luigi.

...I wouldn't throw a fit if the F.L.U.D.D. returned tho. Just think it's a weird move for the default character when almost no other attacks in the game work like that.

Bring back Mario Tornado and make Ground Pound the new D-Air and I'm honestly satisfied with Mario.

I personally would like Cappy as a new Side Special that works as a second projectile/makeshift platform but I'm not expecting it.

As for FLUDD, I'd rather it not return but it's not a deal breaker or anything. If it does though, I wish they'd give it some additional utility. Maybe let it modify some other moves or something.

Like, if you charge FLUDD you can either spray like you already can or use it to enhance Up Special with the Rocket Nozzle or something.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

Mario would make for a fun example of a (potentially unbalanced) Final Smash gimmick that briefly enhances his standard moveset into other stronger moves from his games. The ground pound becomes a Tanooki statue coming down, the fire balls become more damaging ice balls, FLUDD becomes a turbo nozzle that shoots him forward, the Super Jump Punch gets a Mario Galaxy esque spin for extra air, etc.

 

[CommanderZaktan]

I do think it's time for Tetris having its own stage.

 

[ninjahmos]

I do think it's time for Tetris having its own stage.

Now I kinda want a new Smash remix of the Tetris Theme, along with a Tetris stage.

Fun Fact: The Tetris theme is actually based off of a Russian folk song called Korobeiniki.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

Now I kinda want a new Smash remix of the Tetris Theme, along with a Tetris stage.

Fun Fact: The Tetris theme is actually based off of a Russian folk song called Korobeiniki.

Doesnt it have one already?

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Doesnt it have one already?

We currently have a spooky remix of Tetris Type A that was originally made for the Luigi's Mansion stage, and a butchered remix of Tetris Type B.

 

[DarthEnderX]

I'd change Mario's down special to the Hammer, and the side special to the leaping dive from the 3D Mario games.

The idea I had in mind was being able to footstool off opponents if it connects (basically using the opponent as a platform).

Cappy for Down Special!

Bring the Cappy Dive Jump to Smash!

I’d love to see Kirby in the next Mario Kart. Kirby already had its own racer on the GameCube so he can just ride on a warp star like in Air Ride.

I hope the next Mario Kart is just Smash Karts.

Bahn is not a JoJo character. He's from SEGA's Fighting Vipers games and is inspired by one of the main JoJo protagonists, Jotaro Kujo.

Everyone knows the best Jojo inspired character from video games is Juri from Street Fighter.

Mario’s new down special should be throwing Cappy and I’d like to apply two main mechanics to it

1. If it doesn’t hit an opponent or terrain, it will spin in place for a few seconds. This will disable his side taunt temporarily, and also let Mario bounce off of the hat for extra height.
2. If it hits an opponent, Mario will possess the opponent for a certain amount of time, more seconds granted the higher % they are. If the possessed is KO’d in that body, so will Mario.

1. Absolutely.
2. Absolutely not.

 

[Wonder Smash]

Everyone knows the best Jojo inspired character from video games is Juri from Street Fighter.

"Best"? She's...okay.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Mario’s new down special should be throwing Cappy and I’d like to apply two main mechanics to it

1. If it doesn’t hit an opponent or terrain, it will spin in place for a few seconds. This will disable his side taunt temporarily, and also let Mario bounce off of the hat for extra height.
2. If it hits an opponent, Mario will possess the opponent for a certain amount of time, more seconds granted the higher % they are. If the possessed is KO’d in that body, so will Mario.

You can trust me with #2. I promise I won’t be a fiend and Mariocide as often as possible

I personally want the Mario Tornado back. And I want Mario to have a D Air that stomps like Dr.Mario and Luigi.

That's literally it. He doesn't need many changes afterwards.

The potential removal of Dr.Mario might just make this happen I hope.

 

[Shinuto]

So, Pokémon seem to be teaming up British stop-motion studio Aardman Animation, who are for Wallace and Gromit and Chicken Run, for a new project in 2027.

Very cool.

Good god the Wallace memes this will make...

 

[dream1ng]

I do think it's time for Tetris having its own stage.

Smh NSO still adding obscure games no one's ever heard of huh

 

[RRH9/Dynamicjackstorm]

Should they bring back Smash Run, which was inspired by Kirby Air Ride's City Trial mode?

Definitely, its by far my favorite gamemode. And i‘d say it might be better than subspace

 

[DarthEnderX]

Good god the Wallace memes this will make...

"Cracking toast, Growlithe!"

 

[Folezicle Lives!]

I do think it's time for Tetris having its own stage.

Tetris 99 stage needs to happen. It still has a big following

 

[Gorgonzales]

Mario’s new down special should be throwing Cappy and I’d like to apply two main mechanics to it

1. If it doesn’t hit an opponent or terrain, it will spin in place for a few seconds. This will disable his side taunt temporarily, and also let Mario bounce off of the hat for extra height.
2. If it hits an opponent, Mario will possess the opponent for a certain amount of time, more seconds granted the higher % they are. If the possessed is KO’d in that body, so will Mario.

You can trust me with #2. I promise I won’t be a fiend and Mariocide as often as possible

Idea 1 is good, idea 2 isn't. Capturing as a mechanic would be unfun to fight against and too complex for Mario as a beginner character anyhow. Just having Cappy augment his movement options is enough.

 

[Will]

2. Absolutely not.

idea 2 isn't.

I promised not to be a fiend with this totally balanced and game-friendly mechanic, isn’t that enough?!?

I personally want the Mario Tornado back. And I want Mario to have a D Air that stomps like Dr.Mario and Luigi.

What’s wrong with F Air?

The potential removal of Dr.Mario might just make this happen I hope.

Never.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Its Funky Bull Shrimp if they remove Dr. Mario before we got an actual Dr. Mario stage.

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

So I know there's been Half-Life 3 announcement rumors at the TGA in the past 24 hours. I'm taking the rumors with a grain of salt but if these rumors do end up being true, what are the chances of Gordon Freeman getting in Smash 6 (either as a base-game character or DLC)?

 

[ScrubReborn]

What’s wrong with F Air?

Nothing. We're just greedy. Two meteor smashes > 1,

 

[BuckleyTim]

So I know there's been Half-Life 3 announcement rumors at the TGA in the past 24 hours. I'm taking the rumors with a grain of salt but if these rumors do end up being true, what are the chances of Gordon Freeman getting in Smash 6 (either as a base-game character or DLC)?

Would go so hard, but I just don't see it moving the needle that much even if it was also announced to be coming to consoles (which it probably won't since why wouldn't you lock that to Valve's steam ecosystem). He's a dark horse pick in my mind, though: valve and Nintendo have worked before with Portal ports, and Sakurai himself praised Half Life 2 in his famitsu column before.

Years of gmod animations have made me correlate valve stuff with Nintendo music. Would be wild to have the two intersect in an official capacity. (To say nothing of it TF2 somehow got the nod)

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

I personally want the Mario Tornado back. And I want Mario to have a D Air that stomps like Dr.Mario and Luigi.

That's literally it. He doesn't need many changes afterwards.

The potential removal of Dr.Mario might just make this happen I hope.

Tbh I still wouldn't be shocked if Dr. Mario snuck his way into another base roster just like he did in Smash 4 lol

Like the only game Doc has actually missed since his debut is Brawl, so I can't exactly count him out like that lol