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I really don't think we can say if a character is "safe" or not until we know what direction the next game is going to take, but assuming it's a traditional Smash with an increased roster and all that, I think she'd be fine... but I'd really hope they give her better specials.
If Uprising HD actually happens then I think she'll be in a pretty decent spot.
She's in a weird area where she's both from a smaller series and a secondary character within it, so that's two immediate Ls. I expect most smaller series to keep their main rep in all scenarios (so yeah Pit good), but in downscaling like I expect to see in Smash 6, I can easily see the small guys struggling to keep their secondary cast when trying to juggle dozens of other series. On the first party side, once you nip off like, the Pichus and Young Links and Plants, the secondary smaller rep characters are probably next, or at least close.
I'm gonna go a little against the grain here after seeing the other answers, but I really don't think Palutena has anything to worry about. It's not like she has any more work than anyone else to do at this point since she doesn't have a million specials from Custom Moves anymore, and even though she is from a smaller series, Uprising is still a game that Sakurai and crew made themselves, so I really don't see her being at risk tbh.
probably. cause, you know, sakurai
I feel unless cuts get extreme she's fine. Kid Icarus may be small, but she's a very popular and important character from it, she's the type of character I'd see them place high on their priority list.
I think her getting cut is entirely possible, once they go past the most obvious exclusions. It's less to do with her and more to do with where she'd just line up priority-wise amongst bigger series with more familiar faces, some of whom have been part of things longer.
I feel Palutena is the definition of a middle of the pack character, someone who will probably be able to return under normal conditions but might struggle a bit if the cuts end up more drastic. Kid Icarus is, on paper, the kind of series that may lose a character in transition like Star Fox or Mother (smaller, less currently active series). But unlike those series, Palutena is a fully original character and I'd say she is probably more popular than Wolf or Lucas were. She was one of the most heavily requested characters in Smash 4.
Wow I didn't know that, you're telling me now for the first time.
wow, he made smash AND Killer Instinct? so talented.
Also took three games to get a second Kirby character. Sakurai's bias seems to mostly take the form of being selective about his own Kirby content over other Kirby content, not some blanket pedestal for everything he's ever touched.
funny I was going with modern smash as an indicator of what sakurais current mindset might be like rather than 20 years ago
Not only that, it actually actively took away stuff from Uprising because Magnus wasn't an Assist Trophy anymore lol
Did Sakurai take inspiration from sin and punishment when He was developing Kid Icarus Uprising?
I'm not sure if he ever said anything about that, but there are a lot of similarities. I came to that conclusion when I played Sin & Punishment also.
I used to think that he was meant to reference the NES Batman game but since he comes from a TV series, that may not be the case. I guess he's just simply that universe's Batman.
I mean, he's been an Assist Trophy twice and got a Mii costume. And Sakurai appeared to have a soft spot for him when talked about him when he first revealed him as an Assist Trophy.
I never said I was mad about her inclusion. I said he’s not going to cut her. What I’m annoyed about is this insane fandom who constantly try to post their biases as logic. Oh you’re not denying it? Then why respond with a counter argument? You’re not denying it? Then why respond at all?
...High priority? Nahhh. No way. Middle priority, I could see the argument, but "high priority" is like, Link or Mario or Inkling Kid or whoever. Characters that you just could not have Smash without. That is not Palutena. I'm not gonna deny her merit but you can easily have a Smash game without her. Pit could have an argument for high priority but not Palutena. There's at least 20 characters you definitely need to include before her.
I feel like the thing with this argument is, yeah she has merit, but like, so does just about everyone else in Smash. She's popular, yeah, so's many others. That won't necessarily save all of them if they need to trim down.
will you be doing any follow ups?
Like write ups or other polls? I eventually plan on doing both, but other polls are very far away.
Ok it will have been another three games since he's added any more Kirby characters too.
That has nothing to do with the fact the series is named after her in Japan. She's actually highly important to it. As is Pit. They're both major characters. The series being small isn't as relevant as it's being made. This makes sense a bit for Mother. Where it has 3 notable protagonists, and the only reason Ness is higher priority is he got in first. And he was twice considered to be replaced.
I was thinking a poll for 3rd parties mostly
Yeah he’s bias towards his Kirby games not Kirby as a whole. In his games there are three main characters and that’s who we have
It might surprise you who the three main characters of the games after he left are too.
and in my opinion as easy veterans to bring back as DLC, but just expendable enough at this point in time to be lower priority for the base game.It might surprise you to know we’ve had a 4th main character since the wii
Bandana Dee got to sit in with the big boys in Return to Dream Land, and then served in a background supporting role in Triple Deluxe and Robobot. His major appearances past that, leading up to the crafting of Ultimate's roster, were spinoffs like Battle Royale and Rainbow Curse. This really wasn't that impressive of a resume up until he hit a further stride with Star Allies, reaffirming him as the fourth party member, and then upgrading to Player 2 in Forgotten Land. Star Allies came out the same year as Smash Ultimate and was only able to influence music and spirits.
Yeah, in the far future. But that one sounds incredibly hard to make.
Those are the same facts as during the earlier years of Smash, when it took three games to get the other two characters. Which is apparently too long ago to matter, even though nothing about this has changed. He wasn't in a rush to include his characters then, and he still doesn't seem to be now.
