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I feel like Tom Nook's niche could be building. This might be hard to balance but perhaps you could take Isabelle and Villager's final smash and expand that into an entire moveset. Maybe he could collect bells somehow, and spend those to build things like mini houses, mailboxes, boats, etc? The balancing team would have to be careful though to not make Steve 2.0: Landlord Edition
I mean, if you’re going to speak with authority on how little a series has to offer I’d at least like you to know the name of its most recurring antagonist. I’m glad you seem to have 180ed on it now.
I hate to keep insisting on my own post but I’d rather just keep linking it than typing the same thing out every time. If the idea doesn’t interest you that’s all well and good but fixating on one potential aspect of the design, and not even in the way most people agree it would be implemented, is being either ignorant or disingenuous.
Quite frankly, it isn't a lack of moveset potential that has me worried about Mr. Resetti not becoming playable.
Forgive me, but I am not sure if change in character is going to be enough to keep Resetti out of Smash as a playable character. I mean, there are other factors that could have prevented other characters from getting in and they still did get in, and they could use any version of Resetti, and they may likely use the old version.
Nintendo doesn't want Mr. Resetti to be "the scary mole who yells at you for not saving your game" anymore, period.
Like I said, I still don't see what the problem is or how that would keep Resetti from getting into Smash. There have been worse "barriers" come up by fans, and I think this is just a fear of yours, nothing more.
I agree. I just wanted to emphasize that the potential is there since that’s what was initially in question. Unfortunately I think it’s pretty unlikely that Resetti sees any major role in Smash again until the series starts utilizing him prominently again.
Well unfortunately it may have contributed to his Assist Trophy being scrapped from Smash 4 onward, I’d say his absence from this role is a pretty lousy sign.
Well, it's less so that it keeps him from being in Smash and more like... If Animal Crossing themselves don't even want to use the character for anything anymore beyond like a faceless role as the Rescue Service that most players won't use because it requires you to be lost or stuck, which is kinda hard to do on a small island that you can terraform, then it's not very likely anyone at Nintendo would push for him over someone like Tom Nook, who is extremely prominent, K.K. who's in every game, etc.
Like I said in my above recent post, I thought we were talking about his character.
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I think Samus is gonna be based on Samus Returns due to Prime 4 releasing too late.How are we feeling about Metroid's representation in the next game? I expect Samus to be based on her Prime 4 design next game. That game seems primed (heh) to get delayed until the switch 2 launches, and take the role breath of the wild had for the switch as its big launch title. It would be a great flagship title to showcase whatever graphical power the switch 2 has. Dread was also very successful, and with all this in mind the series seems to be in a good position to get a lot of new content in smash 6. Whether that includes a new character or not depends on if the dev team feels the series is already represented well or not.
Raven Beak and Sylux are the definitely the front runners. We aren't sure what role the other hunters will have in Prime 4 though, so perhaps it's not out of the question to get someone like Rundas instead. Or maybe they would just declone Dark Samus. The funniest outcome would be Meta Ridley getting upgraded from costume to echo and we get 3 Samuses and 2 Ridleys
Don’t you mean Dread? Either way, I think they might give Samus an even 50/50 split between her Dread design and her Prime 4 design, assuming the latter is something that Sakurai is privy enough to the development of.
I think Prime 4 won't be a factor at all unless Samus is made DLC due to timing issues.
I don't think any of them are super likely just because their appeal is extremely similar to Meta Knight for the most part, and there's also the strange aversion to adding things that are newer than Kirby Superstar, but if they do go for it, I think Morpho Knight is the only one that they would go for:
Costumes are different than whole characters. They can take any design that's been finalized even if the game is unfinished. For example Xenoblade Chronicles and ARMS came out a year before SSBU, and missed the boat for characters, but The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild released the same year and got a visual redesign and moveset tweaks for Link, music, and an entire stage.
It's the most recent proper "Samus" look due to the drastically different direction Dread took.
No, this one is very much based in reality. Parents of young children complained endlessly about Resetti scaring their kids around when City Folk came out. The European manual straight up included a content warning disclaimer about him.
When it comes to overall design though, it's mostly different in that it's blue (EDIT: and white). It's otherwise pretty similar to other Power Suit designs, and the Varia Suit is the classic orange, so that would still be an option. Do you think they'd find it important to put Samus an I guess more recognizable orange Power/Varia Suit as the default? Keep in mind they elected to make Link's default his Champion of Hyrule outfit, and that's way more different than the Dread Suit.
Well, I was previously thinking that the talk was about his character, rather than his role. As an error as that may be, I still don't think there is much problem with adding him in overall. I mean, he has history as a character; a character in Animal Crossing, not Smash, so I think that with that history around, his CURRENT history won't do much to deter from it, since he was already having less of a role.
By that logic, Link wouldn’t have gotten his Champion’s Tunic unless he was a DLC fighter. I mean, after all, Min Min and Pyra/Mythra are DLC fighters from games released in 2017, right?
Smash is a marketing arm for Nintendo. They won't approve of characters being used in ways that go against their own beliefs. That's what, in my eyes, dooms Resetti. If they forbid him from having his old personality because it goes against the Animal Crossing brand identity™, then he's left with the "approved" version from New Horizons...that is to say, nothing. At that point there's nothing they could make a fighter out of, and as such he wouldn't make it in. Yeah he has history...but it's history that the Animal Crossing team seemingly doesn't want to acknowledge.
Well, either way, that history should not have an impact on things Smash related. I mean look, you and I don't know Nintendo personally as a whole company. They may actually not, I repeat, may actually not, think that way, or they may do. Either way, Sakurai is in charge of Smash from what I know, and he likes to keep characters in character, which does not always turn out that way, but Smash is a game series celebrating Nintendo's and gaming's history. I can see Sakurai want to put in Resetti despite all things against him, (even though he has been removed since Brawl as an assist, but I think it was mostly the big text box thing). Anyway, people from Nintendo did not disallow Sakurai from adding a character like King K. Rool, who has not been in a game for a while before Ultimate, did they not? If Sakurai does want Resetti in Smash, somehow, and use his old self, I can see Nintendo not keep Sakurai from doing so.
Considering how troubled its development was who knows if Sakurai even had any idea of what Prime 4 was going to be like when the Project Plan was devised, which I think was in either 2022 or 2023.
I don't think he'd have needed to know what the game would be like, there'd just have to be a finalized design for Samus, which should have been done early on due to concept art and stuff. We've also had examples of alternate costumes being made by individuals in their spare time with Zero Suit Samus's casual outfits. Samus's costumes probably require a little more work due to the animations on her arm cannon, but I don't think it's quite as difficult as you think it is.
It could have been changed during development, and Sakurai might possibly have ended up using an early concept design for Samus instead of the final one.
I suppose it's a possibility, but assuming that did happen, it would be a fairly simple fix to change Samus in Smash with it, especially if they were able to take and optimize the new character model. Also, given that it's a classic orange Varia Suit design, it seems unlikely that it would change all that much just because there wouldn't be much reason for it to do so. I don't think it would have been that big of a worry for Sakurai, especially if he planned on adding the Dread Suit, as it would make for an easy fall back option.
The difference is that Resetti is proven to be controversial. So controversial that his inclusion was seen as an objective negative to their products. None of the Smash characters ever included have had that level of controversy.
my tier list below, tiers separated by varying levels of enthusiasmI saw a lot of people making their prediction rosters and I wanted to join in the fun but instead of just picking favorites I found this Tiermaker list with 150 potential newcomers and arranged them all in corresponding tiers. Had a lot of fun with this, and also avoided a "Don't want" tier and instead simply put them in either "Don't know" or "Don't care". Characters are also ordered alphabetically so those sharing tiers are pretty much equal.
(Gets ready for getting booed for not recognizing certain characters)
Exactly this. It's as simple as knowing there's another Prime game coming and returning to the design that's consistent across all 3 (and soon to be 4) games. And that's assuming he can't just look at concept art for the game, which seems silly considering it's been in development for 5 years already, since Retro took over.
I miss Brawl every day. The character interactions in subspace, the jank, the edgy 2000s style... Truly unmatched
The difference, though, between Mai and Resetti is that Mai's case, it was because of a CERO rating issue. Resetti does not have the same kind of issue. And I am not saying Sakurai can do whatever he wants, I am just saying Nintendo does not seem to hold him back that much, which might or might not be the case for Resetti.
I'm gonna be the cynicall one this time and say that her portrayal in terms of characterization, game physics, and ability set will be almost or entirely ignored because they don't want to change her move set, and her characterization is fairly subtle and context specific.
You mean like Chris as an alt for Leon or do you mean the Redfields as alts for each other? Either way I would say probably not unless they base the movesets specifically on the classic tank control RE games.