Official Next Smash - Speculation & Discussion Thread

[Noipoi]

Its actually weird how this generation 7 game has generation 9 Pokemon in it.

Same thing happened with Sw/Sh

 

[Gengar84]

I’m on my phone so I’m not sure how to do that Capcom survey but I feel like I’m one of the only people that would vote for Sengoku Basara. I had a lot of fun with the Wii game but none of the others were translated. I’d love to see the series brought back. Masamune Date would also make for an awesome Smash character. The others would be between Mega Man, Vs. Capcom, Final Fight, and Slam Masters. I’m not sure why Street Fighter, Resident Evil and Monster Hunter are on that list. I feel like votes for any of those are kind of wasted since they’re obviously getting sequels anyways.

 

[CommanderZaktan]

Predicting the fighters for the spirits
Paldea starters: Green Incineroar, Red King K Rool, Default Falco
Ogerpon and Terapagos: Green Meta Knight, Dark Blue Squirtle
Koraidon and Miraidon: Red Ridley and Meta Ridley

And for the 4th and final Spirit Event, I think it's going to be a game from third party judging from the pattern. My guess is that it's going to be Sonic Frontiers.

 

[Sucumbio]

Spoiler: Boy it's really spacey in here!

Favorite Character Jill Valentine
Most Influential Game RE
First Game MegaMan
Favorite Game RE4
Game Series Remake Onimusha 1,2,3
I can't remember anymore lol

 

[Ivander]

I’m on my phone so I’m not sure how to do that Capcom survey but I feel like I’m one of the only people that would vote for Sengoku Basara. I had a lot of fun with the Wii game but none of the others were translated. I’d love to see the series brought back. Masamune Date would also make for an awesome Smash character. The others would be between Mega Man, Vs. Capcom, Final Fight, and Slam Masters. I’m not sure why Street Fighter, Resident Evil and Monster Hunter are on that list. I feel like votes for any of those are kind of wasted since they’re obviously getting sequels anyways.

Monster Hunter and Resident Evil are bizarre since we know there's new games for them coming out, so like, why do we need to ask for a sequel? Street Fighter is weird, but I can sorta see it being put on since it's not a sequel or spin-off heavy series compared to the other two. Especially when Street Fighter mostly focuses on crossovers.
Although if people want more spin-off content related to Street Fighter, they should try asking for Final Fight, Rival Schools, Slam Masters, etc, since they are tied to Street Fighter.

 

[Dukefire]

With State of Play announcement done hours ago, it does look like the Nintendo Direct will appear next week. Nintendo like to have a week when other companies are done with theirs.

Also, a lookback of people's reasons to why that character cannot make it until their reveal. Well, it was done up till FP2's reveal and was created on twitter.

 

[CommanderZaktan]

【スピリッツイベント】発見！ パルデア地方と『ゼロの秘宝』の新ポケモン
出現スピリッツその1
スピリッツ名：コライドン & ミライドン
種類：アタッカー
階級：LEGEND
スキル：走行強化
出典：ポケットモンスター シリーズ#スマブラSP pic.twitter.com/lqmWmtkoKc

— 大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズ【スマブラ公式】 (@SmashBrosJP) February 7, 2024

Oh, looks like Koraidon and Miraidon will be the same spirit then.

 

[RileyXY1]

With State of Play announcement done hours ago, it does look like the Nintendo Direct will appear next week. Nintendo like to have a week when other companies are done with theirs.

Also, a lookback of people's reasons to why that character cannot make it until their reveal. Well, it was done up till FP2's reveal and was created on twitter.View attachment 384300

Here's the ones for FP2:
Min Min: Spirits are deconfirmations!
Steve: How would he even work in Smash?
Sephiroth: Square Enix is too stingy. There's no way we're getting a second Final Fantasy character.
Pyra/Mythra: If XC2 gets a character it has to be Rex. The Aegis will just be a part of his moveset. And besides, transformation characters are dead and we only got the concept back because they had to bring back the Pokémon Trainer.
Kazuya: If Tekken is getting a character it has to be Heihachi.
Sora: He's owned by Disney so he's too expensive and difficult to get.

 

[MasterCheef]

is it me or do these spirit events feel like a countdown to something ?

 

[RileyXY1]

is it me or do these spirit events feel like a countdown to something ?

It's weird how there's no cohesion between them at all.

Event 1: One Spirit for four first party Switch games that released after Sora was added
Event 2: Three third party Sprits from games that had absolutely no representation in Smash before
Event 3: An entire Spirit Event themed around Pokémon: Scarlet and Violet

There is just no cohesion at all. It's almost downright suspicious.

 

[Ivander]

Kazuya: If Tekken is getting a character it has to be Heihachi.

To be very honest, I don't think Kazuya ever had an argument. If there were people who said "If Tekken got a fighter, it's guaranteed to be Heihachi because he's considered the mascot" or something like that, it was very few because the common argument for Heihachi was because of Heihachi's Japanese VA dying, but even then, it was a non-issue because they could use voice clips from the games, which I think Min-Min did.
As far as I'm aware, the common thought process for Tekken was, "If Tekken gets a fighter, it will be one of the Mishimas." Which in that case, did pass through to the end. And was the only one that passed through successfully. Every other DLC character had their naysayer arguments crushed, which is ironic because Kazuya's trailer was about him crushing most of the characters.

 

[DarthEnderX]

I feel like I’m one of the only people that would vote for Sengoku Basara.

The last thing the world needs is more Musou games.

 

[RileyXY1]

To be very honest, I don't think Kazuya ever had an argument. If there were people who said "If Tekken got a fighter, it's guaranteed to be Heihachi", it was very few because the common argument for Heihachi was because of Heihachi's Japanese VA dying, but even then, it was a non-issue because they could use voice clips from the games, which I think Min-Min did.
As far as I'm aware, the common thought process for Tekken was, "If Tekken gets a fighter, it will be one of the Mishimas." Which in that case, did pass through to the end. And was the only one that passed through successfully.

Yeah, but Heihachi was usually the go to for Tekken representation in other past crossovers, such as Soul Calibur 2 and Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale.

 

[DarthEnderX]

Yeah, but Heihachi was usually the go to for Tekken representation in other past crossovers, such as Soul Calibur 2 and Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale.

Pretty sure the only reason Kazuya was picked over Heihachi is because of his wings.

 

[Ivander]

The last thing the world needs is more Musou games.

Well, that's a paradox considering the first thing the world needs is a new Hyrule Warriors. So goodbye world.

 

[GoldenYuiitusin]

To be very honest, I don't think Kazuya ever had an argument. If there were people who said "If Tekken got a fighter, it's guaranteed to be Heihachi because he's considered the mascot" or something like that, it was very few because the common argument for Heihachi was because of Heihachi's Japanese VA dying, but even then, it was a non-issue because they could use voice clips from the games, which I think Min-Min did.
As far as I'm aware, the common thought process for Tekken was, "If Tekken gets a fighter, it will be one of the Mishimas." Which in that case, did pass through to the end. And was the only one that passed through successfully. Every other DLC character had their naysayer arguments crushed, which is ironic because Kazuya's trailer was about him crushing most of the characters.

The main thing on Kazuya is that I don't think anyone was expecting a Tekken character after the Heihachi costume came with Min Min.

 

[DarthEnderX]

Well, that's a paradox considering the first thing the world needs is a new Hyrule Warriors.

Nah. AoC just needs TotK DLC.

 

[Ivander]

Nah. AoC just needs TotK DLC.

And the first Hyrule Warriors also just needs more DLC in general, but I know for certain it's not getting any. Neither are anywhere near Mario Kart 8 Deluxe numbers.

 

[Serix]

is it me or do these spirit events feel like a countdown to something ?

I'd be stoked if they began adding new singleplayer content or missing stages back to the game.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

I hope the fourth set of spiris is also weird third party stuff. Just stuff we can never see coming.

 

[smashkirby]

is it me or do these spirit events feel like a countdown to something ?

Thank God, so I'm not the only one who's been feeling that way too, apparently.

I'd be stoked if they began adding new singleplayer content or missing stages back to the game.

Ngl, I genuinely would like that. Like, I don't even need new characters (for now, at least). Just give us something like Smash Run, and I'll take that. I'll even BUY it, if it's meant to be paid DLC or whatever. As I'm sure many of us can agree on, Ultimate's single-player is barebones as all get-out...

I hope the fourth set of spirits is also weird third party stuff. Just stuff we can never see coming.

Same here. Personally, I'd also like 'weird 1st party stuff' too, but I'll be fine with either.

 

[Serix]

Ngl, I genuinely would like that. Like, I don't even need new characters (for now, at least). Just give us something like Smash Run, and I'll take that. I'll eve nBUY it, if it's meant to be paid DLC or whatever. As I'm sure many of us can agree on, Ultimate's single-player is barebones as all get-out...

Just imagining a souped up version of Smash Run with more levels, enemies, the ability to interact with other players, + online makes me hyped. Feels like a huge missed opportunity IMO.

 

[fogbadge]

Pyra/Mythra: If XC2 gets a character it has to be Rex. The Aegis will just be a part of his moveset. And besides, transformation characters are dead and we only got the concept back because they had to bring back the Pokémon Trainer.

yeah slight problem with that. none of us thought they would be transforming characters. people may have said this but not in relation to those two

 

[Scrimblo Bimblo]

Since this is the 25th anniversary of the original Smash Bros., I'd like the final event to feature Mario to Jigglypuff with their old artwork from the first game. You could fight overpowered versions of the characters on the N64 stages.
Probably won't happen but it would feel like a good send-off to Ultimate given how prominent the original 8 are in marketing and in the game itself

 

[Nabbitfan730]

As I'm sure many of us can agree on, Ultimate's single-player is barebones as all get-out...

Who's "Us"?

 

[fogbadge]

Since this is the 25th anniversary of the original Smash Bros., I'd like the final event to feature Mario to Jigglypuff with their old artwork from the first game. You could fight overpowered versions of the characters on the N64 stages.
Probably won't happen but it would feel like a good send-off to Ultimate given how prominent the original 8 are in marketing and in the game itself

if it's mario to jigglypuff then it's the original 12

 

[Gengar84]

The last thing the world needs is more Musou games.

I love Musou games and I’ll take as many of them as they’re willing to make.

 

[BuckleyTim]

I didn't know if there'd be a direct before the last spirit event. If there is, that's where id expect to see any announcement for smash. If not, then I'm gonna have to assume this is just bonus spirits that they decided to add after they secured the rights to the sora amiibo and realized they'd have to go back to update the game anyway one last time.

 

[Guynamednelson]

and realized they'd have to go back to update the game anyway one last time.

I didn't even realize the game wasn't programmed to handle Sora amiibo yet until you made me want to check the patch notes
"Added support for the Min Min, Steve, Alex, Sephiroth, Pyra, Mythra, and Kazuya amiibo, despite them not being released at the time."

 

[Dukefire]

Best to wait and keep expectations low with so little information found within the fog. TBH, I doubt that Smash News is ready yet, but I'm open to the idea. Also, do you think Shinen the Wanderer is a good character to join smash bros?

 

[Stratos]

I guess none of the first 12 characters are going to be cut from the Super Smash Bros. series ever.

 

[RileyXY1]

I guess none of the first 12 characters are going to be cut from the Super Smash Bros. series ever.

All of them are just too iconic to cut. Even Captain Falcon and Ness, despite their franchises not receiving games in a long time, have well established their positions in both Smash history and gaming history as a whole.

 

[Gengar84]

Best to wait and keep expectations low with so little information found within the fog. TBH, I doubt that Smash News is ready yet, but I'm open to the idea. Also, do you think Shinen the Wanderer is a good character to join smash bros?

Same here. I’m not really expecting anything either but I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility. Best to just wait and see what happens.

As for Shinen, I’ve never heard of him until just now but I’m cool with the idea. I’d love for Smash to get some kind of samurai character, whether that’s a Samurai Warriors character, a Sengoku Basara character, Mitsurugi, Yasuo, Haohmaru, Shinen, or someone else.

 

[BritishGuy54]

I guess none of the first 12 characters are going to be cut from the Super Smash Bros. series ever.

How so? There’s nothing explicitly confirming the original 12 being guaranteed for the next game. Very likely, yes, but not guaranteed.

 

[CannonStreak]

How so? There’s nothing explicitly confirming the original 12 being guaranteed for the next game. Very likely, yes, but not guaranteed.

Wasn’t Jigglypuff almost cut from Brawl, may I ask?

 

[Guynamednelson]

How so? There’s nothing explicitly confirming the original 12 being guaranteed for the next game. Very likely, yes, but not guaranteed.

Smash fans when the game that claims it'll bring back every fighter brings back every fighter

 

[Scrimblo Bimblo]

Not fully sure about Puff, but the other 11 are never going anywhere.

 

[Noipoi]

There was a time where cutting one of the original 12 may have been possible, but at this point I think they’re all here to stay.

 

[Speed Weed]

Best to wait and keep expectations low with so little information found within the fog. TBH, I doubt that Smash News is ready yet, but I'm open to the idea. Also, do you think Shinen the Wanderer is a good character to join smash bros?

I would be so down for this. The Mystery Dungeon series is the grand daddy of the console roguelike, has been running for a long time as one of (Spike) Chunsoft's most successful properties, and Shiren himself has such a cool design

 

[Dukefire]

The original twelve started smash bros, so a lot of people will notice if one is gone. Again, Smash Bros has grown far since its humbling debut on Nintendo 64 and Sakurai's first game project. This video covers up to Smash Bros 20th anniversary, but shows how far we come.