Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[DaybreakHorizon]

Uhm... you realize I was on the top 50 most liked users list back in the day?

Might wanna watch who you're talking to

Luigi The President vs. Smashboards staff (colorized, circa 2020)

Actually though I much prefer this to the regular arguments. It'll pass soon enough and we'll be back to our 4,327th discussion of Pokémon or lamenting the current state of Nintendo so why not just let us chill for a bit?

 

[7NATOR]

And like that, she was sent to the Shadow Realm for displaying too much big **** energy.


I welcome this brand of ****posting in the wake of the past ten pages being arguments back and forth. But **** it, guess Will is up to make a new topic.

Brawler/Swordfighter Deluxe Costume When?​

Honestly, What Character could fit the Role of a Deluxe Brawler Costume? The only character I can think of is Crash Bandicoot, But they might just make that a Regular costume (or Character)

 

[Luigi The President]

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Luigi The President vs. Smashboards staff (colorized, circa 2020)

Except NonSpecificGuy I'd take a bullet for NSP

Opo is on thin ice as he dismissed my Black Knight echo for Ike tho soooo basically cancelled

 

[N3ON]

Kinda ironic that the person asking if we're still insane is also the one who has caused the thread to become like this

 

[Luigi The President]

Kinda ironic that the person asking if we're still insane is also the one who has caused the thread to become like this

Listen N3on my guest appearance every few months has to be a good one it's not really a choice

 

[Droodle]

Every time I see this list, I'm reminded that the main criticism SourceGaming and Jon GameXPlain had for Tales getting into Smash was the because Tales isn't "iconic" enough to be playable; meanwhile they chimed in how they considered characters like Aiai, Travis, and Klonoa are decently likely.

Needless to say they weren't right then and they aren't right now.

Source is a Famitsu poll of the most anticipated games. Picture is from Gematsu.

 

[Diddy Kong]

What's even going on in here lol

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

Kinda ironic that the person asking if we're still insane is also the one who has caused the thread to become like this

This place has been on fire for the past two days.

Why can't we just chill rn?

Things'll be back on track soon enough, so why not just let this discussion run its course and let the users here laugh it up for a bit before we get back to serious speculationtm.

Like, it's been a long two days, so let's all just vibe to this guitar cover of Snowflakes from Persona 4.

Spoiler: vibin'

 

[N3ON]

Listen N3on my guest appearance every few months has to be a good one it's not really a choice

10thanoses

 

[Luigi The President]

10thanoses

But we... but... the disc.. nevermind

 

[cashregister9]

Honestly, What Character could fit the Role of a Deluxe Brawler Costume? The only character I can think of is Crash Bandicoot, But they might just make that a Regular costume (or Character)

Sackboy Or Monokuma could work well

 

[Idon]

Look I got SMTV news and a Nocturne Remaster, I'm goddamn chilling.

Now put the tattooed ******* in smash, will you, Sakurai?

 

[DarthEnderX]

Uhm... you realize I was on the top 50 most liked users list back in the day?

Was that before there were 50 users?

BOOM!

 

[Luigi The President]

Was that before there were 50 users?

BOOM!

The trick with DarthEnder is to just start talking about leaks that were 100% indisputably real

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

So uhhhhh....

smash bros amirite?

 

[SirBillyBob]

I have no idea what's happening so here's this image I made based off what AEMehr said.

Assassination of Luigi The President. Circa July, 2020.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

So uhhhhh....

smash bros amirite?

smash bros?

more like smash NO

 

[Luigi The President]

I have no idea what's happening so here's this image I made based off what AEMehr said.
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Assassination of Luigi The President. Circa July, 2020.

LMAOOO TPC WOULD BE TRYING TO SAVE ME THOUGH CLASSIC IMAGE ALERT

So uhhhhh....

smash bros amirite?

So you guys hear Geno will be revealed in the 20th direct?

 

[Will]

This place has been on fire for the past two days.

Why can't we just chill rn?

Because red names will smite us with an iron fist if we don't and I, despite all of the odds and wack ass **** I've done prior, have yet to be struck by the mighty hammer of bans.

Yet. ​

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Please don't sass the staff.

 

[Jomosensual]

My bad if this was talked about already, not gonna dig back through to see

(Full article here :https://t.co/7bz73drc5R)

Ye it’s official, Nintnedo has backpedaled that Statement from a few weeks back saying their rest of 2020 lineup wouldn’t be affected.

Sooooo....expect the weird 1st party game silence to continue & maybe like 1-2 games from them 💀 pic.twitter.com/FTjSLJB2wQ

— GamesCage - Hype Guy (@GamesCage_) July 21, 2020

So..............yeah. Would have been nice if we didn't just hear the opposite like 2-3 weeks ago

 

[zumaddy]

C'mon guys, let's get back on topic and explore some legitimate leaks and rumours. After all I got a pretty tasty leak from my aunt who works at Namco

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

My bad if this was talked about already, not gonna dig back through to see

(Full article here :https://t.co/7bz73drc5R)

Ye it’s official, Nintnedo has backpedaled that Statement from a few weeks back saying their rest of 2020 lineup wouldn’t be affected.

Sooooo....expect the weird 1st party game silence to continue & maybe like 1-2 games from them 💀 pic.twitter.com/FTjSLJB2wQ

— GamesCage - Hype Guy (@GamesCage_) July 21, 2020

So..............yeah. Would have been nice if we didn't just hear the opposite like 2-3 weeks ago

I posted that about a page or two ago.

**** sucks, but what are we to do about it?

 

[Idon]

I posted that about a page or two ago.

**** sucks, but what are we to do about it?

Same thing we always do.

Rage impotently on online messageboards.

 

[TwiceEXE]

Nintendo took the money and ran. Y'all got played, nerds.

 

[SirBillyBob]

Imagine having realistic expectations and having civil discussions online about videogames.

Couldn't be me.

 

[SnowClaws]

Nintendo took the money and ran. Y'all got played, nerds.

But I invested a lot of money into the New Donk City distract, I stole a block and climb a tower to collect coins, and even built a NES/TV out of LEGO. How can this happened to me?

 

[WallyPalmer]

C'mon guys, let's get back on topic and explore some legitimate leaks and rumours. After all I got a pretty tasty leak from my aunt who works at Namco

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Aw man they're not using her redesign from Dedicated (2019) ? I guess the KISS era is more iconic.

 

[GoodGrief741]

Nintendo took the money and ran. Y'all got played, nerds.

Joke's on them I didn't have any money anyways

 

[N3ON]

My bad if this was talked about already, not gonna dig back through to see

(Full article here :https://t.co/7bz73drc5R)

Ye it’s official, Nintnedo has backpedaled that Statement from a few weeks back saying their rest of 2020 lineup wouldn’t be affected.

Sooooo....expect the weird 1st party game silence to continue & maybe like 1-2 games from them 💀 pic.twitter.com/FTjSLJB2wQ

— GamesCage - Hype Guy (@GamesCage_) July 21, 2020

So..............yeah. Would have been nice if we didn't just hear the opposite like 2-3 weeks ago

People tend to judge companies by statements instead of actions, which is backwards.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Same thing we always do.

Rage impotently on online messageboards.

Except you, you finally found happiness for the first time in 3 and a half years

 

[DarthEnderX]

The trick with DarthEnder is to just start talking about leaks that were 100% indisputably real

THE LUCKIEST GUESSES!

 

[SuperSceptile15]

You'd think the consolidation of home console and handheld departments would have helped make these kinds of droughts less frequent for the Switch, but I guess it isn't that simple. Sure there's the whole virus going on, but it feels like even before the height of the pandemic there have been slumps such as in most of 2018. It's a good thing there are still games I have yet to finish.

 

[Will]

People tend to judge companies by statements instead of actions, which is backwards.

Especially that one dude in the comments "It was nice knowing Nintendo while they were in business" like what dude you think they're going to go broke?

 

[Diddy Kong]

Nobody in the thread talking about Impa, and her being playable now in Cadence of Hyrule , with the naginata to boot? A damn shame, a sinful one I would even state.

 

[SuperSceptile15]

Nobody in the thread talking about Impa, and her being playable now in Cadence of Hyrule , with the naginata to boot? A damn shame, a sinful one I would even state.

Midna would have been better lol.

 

[Will]

Nobody in the thread talking about Impa, and her being playable now in Cadence of Hyrule , with the naginata to boot? A damn shame, a sinful one I would even state.

I was aware, I just didn't care.

 

[Calamitas]

Nobody in the thread talking about Impa, and her being playable now in Cadence of Hyrule , with the naginata to boot? A damn shame, a sinful one I would even state.

Come to think of it, it is interesting that they're using the naginata. In Hyrule Warriors, which this Impa's design is pretty clearly based on, that wasn't her default weapon, being an unlockable option instead. Guess they're pushing that as her main weapon now?

 

[MarioDDR755]

Especially that one dude in the comments "It was nice knowing Nintendo while they were in business" like what dude you think they're going to go broke?

Flashbacks to so many people saying Nintendo should just go third-party and stop making consoles during Wii U's lifespan. Nintendo is always doomed.

Nobody in the thread talking about Impa, and her being playable now in Cadence of Hyrule , with the naginata to boot? A damn shame, a sinful one I would even state.

Realistically Impa would make probably a lot of sense for a new Zelda rep... her design just changes so much it's hard to pick one. Also, Sheik exists.

Zelda games just don't really have any consistent characters except the main three, but that's likely on purpose. Impa is one of the notable exceptions.

 

[SuperSceptile15]

Actually I think I understand why things are weird for Nintendo right now, and the pandemic definitely doesn't do them any favors.

http://dromble.com/2015/01/21/forme...os-culture-third-party-support-and-much-more/

In many interviews, you've spoken publicly about how difficult it was to pass policies and get things done at Nintendo. For example, in your Kotaku interview you said, I absolutely did try to fight internally to change whatever I could. In your IndieGamerchick interview, you said, Unfortunately, it was hard to get the changes I needed because no one could hear me over the ringing of all the cash registers.

But why was it so difficult to get things done at Nintendo?

Is there a lot of bureaucracy, additional layers of management, and red tape?

Is it because NOA offices are not very autonomous, and you need to always report to Japan (NCL)?

Dan Adelman: Nintendo is not only a Japanese company, it is a Kyoto-based company. For people who aren't familiar, Kyoto-based are to Japanese companies as Japanese companies are to US companies. They're very traditional, and very focused on hierarchy and group decision making. Unfortunately, that creates a culture where everyone is an advisor and no one is a decision maker but almost everyone has veto power.

Even Mr. Iwata is often loathe to make a decision that will alienate one of the executives in Japan, so to get anything done, it requires laying a lot of groundwork: talking to the different groups, securing their buy-in, and using that buy-in to get others on board. At the subsidiary level, this is even more pronounced, since people have to go through this process first at NOA or NOE (or sometimes both) and then all over again with headquarters. All of this is not necessarily a bad thing, though it can be very inefficient and time consuming. The biggest risk is that at any step in that process, if someone flat out says no, the proposal is as good as dead. So in general, bolder ideas don't get through the process unless they originate at the top.

There are two other problems that come to mind. First, at the risk of sounding ageist, because of the hierarchical nature of Japanese companies, it winds up being that the most senior executives at the company cut their teeth during NES and Super NES days and do not really understand modern gaming, so adopting things like online gaming, account systems, friends lists, as well as understanding the rise of PC gaming has been very slow. Ideas often get shut down prematurely just because some people with the power to veto an idea simply don't understand it.

The last problem is that there is very little reason to try and push these ideas. Risk taking is generally not really rewarded. Long-term loyalty is ultimately what gets rewarded, so the easiest path is simply to stay the course. Id love to see Nintendo make a more concerted effort to encourage people at all levels of the company to feel empowered to push through ambitious proposals, and then get rewarded for doing so.

So basically their management is all out of whack.