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Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

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GoodGrief741

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We could theoretically be in a timeline where NEITHER the Mallow or Cacodemon Mii costumes are dropped w/ Terry, we get NO REVEAL FOR FIGHTER #5 with Terry's drop, and NO MODDERS step forward to disprove the leak...

You called?
 
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We could theoretically be in a timeline where NEITHER the Mallow or Cacodemon Mii costumes are dropped w/ Terry, we get NO REVEAL FOR FIGHTER #5 with Terry's drop, and NO MODDERS step forward to disprove the leak...

We're not in this timeline already?
 

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Ah, the Megaman from Sm4sh issue
At least his face still had some different expressions even if it was mainly just his stoic expression due to Sakurai largely basing him off his original appearances.

Geno wouldn't be able to have any emotion if he's just a Sans-style mii costume, and he's not even a robot. I'd prefer the original costume over it - unless the new one looked significantly better, I guess.
 
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THEORETICALLY: Doom gets a music track(s) in Ultimate.

Do you guys see ANY possibility that Mick will get to remix some DOOM classics?
Mick Gordon was recording some Doom sounding music earlier this year that he confirmed wasn’t for Eternal.

i think a HUGE question that ppl arent addressing here is: Would Nintendo drop Mii Content related to Fighter #5 BEFORE its release?
If this is real, then it’s from a play tester. They could just be testing out the Mii costumes. We might not officially see these costumes for a long time.
 

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It’s worth pointing out that Mii costumes from third parties still need to be licensed even if they’re far easier to make. They can’t just decide to make a bunch of them in their down time if they haven’t already negotiated for the rights to the character. This counters the “why wouldn’t they just make Mii costumes later” argument. Additionally you can’t really release the costumes until everything else in the update is done so it makes sense they could still be working on new characters who aren’t quality-testing ready yet but have the Mii costumes already done and ready for checking.
tl;dr Nintendo can’t just do whatever they want with Mii costumes. Seeing a lot of people ask why they wouldn’t just make them later- they still need to be done.
 
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Doomslayer better be top tier to be most accurate
I fear your reaction if all of this was fake...Not that I'm concluding or anything. It's just that you might go through the same phase I did.
 
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> A few modders keep trying to disprove the leak using head-covering helmets, but apparently using a helmet unloads the mii's head completely (makes sense, it would still render the head otherwise despite the player not seeing it, so the head doesn't need to be there and can be removed by the game incase of clipping problems or just to free up a tad bit of space)

> Porting a Mallow hat or other hats cause a gaping void in the mii's head where the hair should be loaded

> The leak seems to have no such issues

Aw yeah, I'm thinkin' it's real.
I know it's kind of a stretch but they could have just modded a whole new mii head with the hat pre-attached to it (similarly to modding in a head-covering helmet, except it would be a head-covering helmet... with a face) . Since we don't see the actual mii fighter customisation menu, there's no way to know if it's a real hat or just a completely made up/modded mii head.

Again, i know it's kind of a stretch but as i said yesterday, we've already seen plenty of elaborate fake leaks in the past so it's not impossible imo.

That said, it could also be real, idk. I'm just skeptic after seeing so many 'credible' fake leaks.
 

GoodGrief741

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I mean is that we're in Grinch leak levels of speculation.
Oh yeah, we're in the same back and forth situation where evidence keeps piling and being debunked for both sides. Though Grinch was more intense by virtue of more fanbases involved, and more avenues to explore (the image itself, the nature of revealing so many characters, the company that 'made it', the old text leak).
 
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Oh yeah, we're in the same back and forth situation where evidence keeps piling and being debunked for both sides. Though Grinch was more intense by virtue of more fanbases involved, and more avenues to explore (the image itself, the nature of revealing so many characters, the company that 'made it', the old text leak).
I've got a bad feeling about this...
 

GoodGrief741

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I know it's kind of a stretch but they could have just modded a whole new mii head with the hat pre-attached to it (similarly to modding in a head-covering helmet, except it would be a head-covering helmet... with a face) . Since we don't see the actual mii fighter customisation menu, there's no way to know if it's a real hat or just a completely made up/modded mii head.

Again, i know it's kind of a stretch but as i said yesterday, we've already seen plenty of elaborate fake leaks in the past so it's not impossible imo.

That said, it could also be real, idk. I'm just skeptic after seeing so many 'credible' fake leaks.
There's a post last page that talks about why it couldn't be a modded Mii head. At least, I found the explanation convincing.

I've got a bad feeling about this...
I know at this point nothing I say will really get through, but just enjoy the ride. If you want off it's fine, but from where I'm sitting it's all good
 

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If we're going to be "accurate", then there'd still be plenty of characters above him. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Mario would be above him.
By accurate I mean how in the game Doomslayers like a force of nature
I fear your reaction if all of this was fake...Not that I'm concluding or anything. It's just that you might go through the same phase I did.
I think I’ll be fine
 

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I'm just gonna say that I have a good feeling about both Doom Guy and Geno being Fighters #75 and #76 regardless of the Mii hats.

All of the advertising the Doom series is getting is equal to Dragon Quest before that series got into Smash so he's still got a good chance.

With Geno, the music take downs and lack of Mii costumes still seem pretty suspicious so there could be hope that Sakurai was finally able to make Geno a playable character.

That's all I got to say.
 
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QUESTION TO ALL!

If it shows that Doom and Geno are Miis only, what are your next hopefuls to enter Smash?
KOS MOS. Morrigan. Rex. That is all.

There's a post last page that talks about why it couldn't be a modded Mii head. At least, I found the explanation convincing.


I know at this point nothing I say will really get through, but just enjoy the ride. If you want off it's fine, but from where I'm sitting it's all good
I'll jist wait for Verge.
 

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QUESTION TO ALL!

If it shows that Doom and Geno are Miis only, what are your next hopefuls to enter Smash?
If that is the case, then I suppose we'd get another Bethesda and Square reps anyway because of the simple presence of the costumes.

My bet would be on Dragonborn as #5 and either Sora or 2B as the first fighter for Season Two.

EDIT: Wait, I read the question wrong: are we talking predictions or wishlists? If the latter, then ignore the edit, if the former... well, Sora and 2B anyway lol.
 
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It being a modded Mii head or a model with the Mii head integrated is disproved by seeing if it changes expression even ONCE, I’d think. Unless they can mod a static model that still emotes like the regular Mii face.
 

greenluigiman2

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Man, as much as I want to say "This leak staying alive after all this makes me think it's real", the same dang thing could be said for the Grinch leak, despite the very different circumstances.

I have a genuine headache lol
The Grinch leak had some concrete evidence against it (the battlefield discrepancies). This one has none as of now.
 
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I don't think Mallow and Cacodemon are part of the next batch even if the leak is real. Cacodemon would probably come with #5 and Mallow with the next season's first character, I presume.
Probably the leaker couldn't contain his excitement.
 

RaintheCriminalWhirlwind

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I don't think Mallow and Cacodemon are part of the next batch even if the leak is real. Cacodemon would probably come with #5 and Mallow with the next season's first character, I presume.
To be fair, we did get some off the wall Mii costumes when Banjo came out. Goemon, Sans, Team Rocket, Protoman, Zero. None of which had anything to do with Banjo unlike Joker and Hero. This could potentially be the same case with our Legendary Hungry Wolf
 
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