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Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

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DarthEnderX said:
*pull a piece of paper from his pocket*

It just says "Kunio".
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*chuckles*

I'm calling dibs that we'll get a Direct next week or a presentation on Terry. At best, we'll get a hint on FP5. At worst, it'll just be about Terry and nothing else.
 
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Luigi The President said:
Love you my one and only TPC :") <3
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WHOA you're back. It's been a while!

Do you have anyone you personally want that you consider likely for future DLC? I'm thinking that 2B, Phoenix Wright, a Resident Evil character, and Dixie Kong could all happen (the latter depending on if Nintendo makes any more first-party DLC again, and if they don't just promote new and upcoming games).
 
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Luigi The President said:
Love you my one and only TPC :") <3
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Love you too boo <3.

Get on the Discord more often we miss you
TheYungLink said:
WHOA you're back. It's been a while!

Do you have anyone you personally want that you consider likely for future DLC? I'm thinking that 2B, Phoenix Wright, a Resident Evil character, and Dixie Kong could all happen (the latter depending on if Nintendo makes any more first-party DLC again, and if they don't just promote new and upcoming games).
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Funny of you to ask that. I'd love to answer this question in depth but first we need to talk about parallel universes.

I've got some ideas for a speculation piece brewing, so let me get back to you in a couple of days or so.
 
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SMAASH! Puppy said:
Issues with the list:
  • Dragon Quest XI's is referred to as Eleven, not Luminary.
  • Dante is strangely missing.
  • Why Lana and Linkle? They'd be pretty cool characters gameplay wise but I wouldn't exactly pick them for a list of characters like Spyro, Steve, and Leon. Even the other Nintendo characters are at least relevant or stand on their own merits (Aside from Porky but the demand for Mother 3 could be a reason to add him to it).

Don't worry. Terry will have his day soon enough. His name doesn't really have much staying power in the states, but people will be excited to play the new character.
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They did refer to the character as "Eleven" in Final Fantasy Brave Exvius so there is some precedent.
 
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Sigman said:
They did refer to the character as "Eleven" in Final Fantasy Brave Exvius so there is some precedent.
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All the DQ heroes in Japan are referred to by number. There's even a Meta Joke in DQXI about it.
 
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Sigman said:
They did refer to the character as "Eleven" in Final Fantasy Brave Exvius so there is some precedent.
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Luminary is the translation of yuusha in DQXI. So it's just a title, not a person's name. The game text always refers the protagonist as "the Luminary" if I'm not mistaken.
I bet Eleven is the canon name for both Japanese and English. I heard some of the early English trailers of DQXI used Eleven as the defalt name but I'm not sure of this.
 
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Please let the Square Enix is stingy narrative die. I was going to do a big breakdown of this, but I thought Sakurai's discussion on the Dragon Quest thoroughly dispelled the notions once and for all, and figured there was no point... That might need to be revived though...

I'll just point this out though. Street Fighter only got 6 songs when it debuted in Smash 4 and they were all just Ryu and Ken themes. Two were remixes, but the point is Street Fighter actually didn't come with all that much content in Smash 4 to begin with and Smash 4 DLC was clearly considerably more low budget than our current DLC for example. Final Fantasy VII music is notoriously more expensive due to Uematsu's licensing fees, so 2 songs at the time kind of makes some sense in the context of they barely had a budget for these bigger third party inclusions during Smash 4.

That Street Fighter content balloons when you get to Ultimate because they specifically added another Street Fighter character to the game. Konami and Capcom got the overwhelming amount of love for additions in Ultimate because they got characters, whereas the other three third parties didn't really get much. Sega got the most with 3 assist trophies (Rodan, Knuckles, and Akira... two of which were probably really easy to implement and license) and a couple of new Sonic songs (not remixes mind you). Square Enix added a Mallow spirit to its ranks. And Bandai-Namco picked up a couple remixes of songs... but lost a stage and a whole bunch of trophies did not become Spirits either, so they probably had an overall net loss. Not coincidentally those three companies were the ones who did not receive a new character in base Ultimate.

And while I won't claim that I'm at all sold on this, it would make some sense to see Bandai Namco get Fighter's Pass #5's spot because of this phenomenon as Joker came in and added to Sega's content, then Hero came in and expanded Square Enix's content. The only company that hasn't gotten an expansion in terms of content is somehow Bandai Namco and they make the game with Sakurai in addition to having a ton of great options for fighters... so...
 
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EricTheGamerman said:
And while I won't claim that I'm at all sold on this, it would make some sense to see Bandai Namco get Fighter's Pass #5's spot because of this phenomenon as Joker came in and added to Sega's content, then Hero came in and expanded Square Enix's content. The only company that hasn't gotten an expansion in terms of content is somehow Bandai Namco and they make the game with Sakurai in addition to having a ton of great options for fighters... so
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So technically, the Bamco rep is 80% credible.

Either Heihachi, Lloyd, or KOS-MOS is in the books, though Heihachi and Lloyd are for fanservice while KOS-MOS is also for that, if they want to make female representation viable.
 
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Monkey Barrels was known ~20 hours earlier from a random Famitsu Twitter post. I thought we had already gone over this.
 
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tehponycorn said:
Funny of you to ask that. I'd love to answer this question in depth but first we need to talk about parallel universes.

I've got some ideas for a speculation piece brewing, so let me get back to you in a couple of days or so.
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I was asking Luigi The President.

That said, I do enjoy hearing your arguments on who you consider likely, so I'm looking forward to it.
 
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ShotoStar: Endgame said:
>Golden Sun 4
>New Rhythm Heaven
>Persona 5 port
>Mario Odyssey sequel

Fake. This is way too good to be true. Way way way too good to be true especially Golden Sun 4 and a new Rhythm Heaven game.
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I am more confounded why the person thought an Odyssey sequel was something that could be announced in a regular direct. That's a title that Nintendo would announce for a major event like E3. They didn't announce major titles like BOTW2 and Metroid Prime 4 in regular directs.
 
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EricTheGamerman said:
Please let the Square Enix is stingy narrative die. I was going to do a big breakdown of this, but I thought Sakurai's discussion on the Dragon Quest thoroughly dispelled the notions once and for all, and figured there was no point... That might need to be revived though...

I'll just point this out though. Street Fighter only got 6 songs when it debuted in Smash 4 and they were all just Ryu and Ken themes. Two were remixes, but the point is Street Fighter actually didn't come with all that much content in Smash 4 to begin with and Smash 4 DLC was clearly considerably more low budget than our current DLC for example. Final Fantasy VII music is notoriously more expensive due to Uematsu's licensing fees, so 2 songs at the time kind of makes some sense in the context of they barely had a budget for these bigger third party inclusions during Smash 4.

That Street Fighter content balloons when you get to Ultimate because they specifically added another Street Fighter character to the game. Konami and Capcom got the overwhelming amount of love for additions in Ultimate because they got characters, whereas the other three third parties didn't really get much. Sega got the most with 3 assist trophies (Rodan, Knuckles, and Akira... two of which were probably really easy to implement and license) and a couple of new Sonic songs (not remixes mind you). Square Enix added a Mallow spirit to its ranks. And Bandai-Namco picked up a couple remixes of songs... but lost a stage and a whole bunch of trophies did not become Spirits either, so they probably had an overall net loss. Not coincidentally those three companies were the ones who did not receive a new character in base Ultimate.
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Or it could be that SF got additional content because it was no longer hindered by the budgetary restraints of 4's DLC. All it got was treatment tantamount to any other base addition, non-retro series, being a fairly substantial amount of content across the different forms of representation.

It came from a deficit to the norm. The only other series working from a deficit was, really, FF. Bayonetta, being a series presumably cheaper and easier to license, already came with a fair amount of content the first time. Though it still got Rodin.

What this is indicative of is an additional supply of capital for Ultimate. Sakurai simply brought the series to par with the standard given he now had the funds to do so. I'd think (well, hope) you'd agree that it'd be ridiculous to suggest Sakurai had no ambition to expand the absolutely paltry stable of FF content simply because no one was coming to join Cloud. It's certainly not Sakurai's MO to coast by on the bare minimum. It'd be a different story if FF didn't receive much new content yet already had a lot present.

The roadblock had to be somewhere at Square's end. Whether they asked for more money than Nintendo was willing to spend to flesh out the ranks of the series, or they had inexplicable regulations by which Sakurai had to capitulate, the culprit for the lack of parity is not the company or director who has in all other cases made the effort/investment to keep things relatively level.

So use whatever term you want, say SE aren't stingy, it seems evident that, in certain areas, they either just only respond to being "compensated handsomely" or they are "very particular about representation". Possibly both.
 
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ShotoStar: Endgame said:
>Golden Sun 4
>New Rhythm Heaven
>Persona 5 port
>Mario Odyssey sequel

Fake. This is way too good to be true. Way way way too good to be true especially Golden Sun 4 and a new Rhythm Heaven game.
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The leaker is just trying too hard to get more viewers.
 
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ShotoStar: Endgame said:
>Golden Sun 4
>New Rhythm Heaven
>Persona 5 port
>Mario Odyssey sequel

Fake. This is way too good to be true. Way way way too good to be true especially Golden Sun 4 and a new Rhythm Heaven game.
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AHHHHHHHHH STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP

I HAD A LOVE-HATE WITH MEGAMIX AND IM STILL RECOVERING DONT GIVE ME THIS S**T DAREALDEAL AHHHHHHHHH


sorry im just a huge fan of rhythm heaven and this made me really f****n salty
 
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ShotoStar: Endgame said:
>Golden Sun 4
>New Rhythm Heaven
>Persona 5 port
>Mario Odyssey sequel

Fake. This is way too good to be true. Way way way too good to be true especially Golden Sun 4 and a new Rhythm Heaven game.
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Also, are they implying that GTA 1 and 2 would be ported before VC and SA? Yeah no.
 
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I will go ahead and say that any "leaks" mentioning a general direct next week are probably fake.

I can see a special smash direct getting announced with Terry, but we aren't going to see a full new direct till January/February at the earliest.
 
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I messaged Sabi on Twitter with this question.
In the unlikely event that she gets back to me, I'll be sure to inform you all.
 
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I'd just like to say....


:ultsnake: is lonely, so I'm holding out for this dude to be in Smash someday, serving as a Ubisoft rep.

Just as long as this song (skip to 0:58) is his victory theme.
 
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dream1ng said:
They didn't leak that game, Famitsu's coverage predates that leak.

Clearly they're trying to hinge their leak on that facet, when in reality that game would obviously be buried within the claimed "indie sizzle-reel", if it was featured at all.
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perfectchaos83 said:
More context: https://www.resetera.com/threads/go...eals-new-ip-for-switch-monkey-barrels.149873/

Thread was made at 4AM while his leak was about 15 hours later. He picked an obscure ass title from Famitsu previews to do a leak with.

EDIT: Oh look, a tweet that predates the leak by about 20 hours

https://twitter.com/famitsu/status/1189089527584952320
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Reminder that this monkey barrels leak is fake.
 
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Droodle said:
I will go ahead and say that any "leaks" mentioning a general direct next week are probably fake.

I can see a special smash direct getting announced with Terry, but we aren't going to see a full new direct till January/February at the earliest.
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Curious as to why you are so certain we're not seeing a General Direct this month since they do one just about every year around this time... like no seriously we've gotten a November Direct all but two years in the entire history of Directs, and even then we got game centralized Directs. Why are you so confident we're not?

They usually do a Direct in November and then focus on The Game Awards in December.
 
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NonSpecterificGuy said:
Curious as to why you are so certain we're not seeing a General Direct this month since they do one just about every year around this time... like no seriously we've gotten a November Direct all but two years in the entire history of Directs, and even then we got game centralized Directs. Why are you so confident we're not?

They usually do a Direct in November and then focus on The Game Awards in December.
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The last time we got a general Direct in November was four years ago. The last time we got a general Direct in November in a year we also had a general Direct in September (or October) was six years ago, and occurred only that one time.

I can see why people aren't banking on one.
 
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Terry on the 6th? That possibly lines up with the Phoenix leak saying we'll get FP5 (Being Phoenix Wright) with Terry and Terry releasing on the 6th. Hopefully it's true as Phoenix would be an absolutely amazing character but it could just as easily be a lucky guess.
 
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krokotopia101 said:
I'd just like to say....


:ultsnake: is lonely, so I'm holding out for this dude to be in Smash someday, serving as a Ubisoft rep.

Just as long as this song (skip to 0:58) is his victory theme.
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I'm with ya. Altair is my personal favorite but Ezio is undoubtedly the most popular and if Sakurai is aiming for a shock of a final pick, we got our man right here.
 
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ShotoStar: Endgame said:
Terry on the 6th? That possibly lines up with the Phoenix leak saying we'll get FP5 (Being Phoenix Wright) with Terry and Terry releasing on the 6th. Hopefully it's true as Phoenix would be an absolutely amazing character but it could just as easily be a lucky guess.
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tehponycorn said:
all in on dante boys
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Seriously, I'm genuinely scratching my head as to why Dante hasn't been included yet. Yeah, there's a case to be made for his limited prevalence on Nintendo consoles, but he always just seemed like a "no-brainer" third party pick for me, his visual style and moveset potential would fit into smash extremely well, and the DMC series is among Capcom's most reputable and iconic franchises. Not to mention, his chances have been looking even more likely with Smash 4's inclusion of a certain Umbra Witch.
 
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I'm just saying, if y'all haven't listened to some of the majesty the Assassin's Creed Soundtracks can put out you're missing out HARD.
Like the tracks range from uplifting and hopeful, to adrenaline pumping and bad ass, to down right haunting. Nobody realizes just how much good an Assassin's Creed character would do for this game.
 
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