Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[StrangeKitten]

Hey is it bad if I unironically think Euden would be a cool character to have in Smash?

I feel the same. Sword user with a cool dragon transformation sounds rad to me. And before anyone brings up Corrin, I'm talking about a more fleshed-out transformation that changes you entirely for a while. I think Euden could bring a fresh spin on the dragon transformation thing.

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

A 35 Minute 'Sakurai Presents' for Sephiroth. Is that longer than average? Shorter? Or just typical of the length? I don't want to read into it, but I really do want to keep hope alive for a 'Boss Rush' mode to be added.

I feel like the 'History' of Sephiroth may be a bit more detailed than some others since he'll likely talk about Advent Children (since the Trailer had some heavy homages to it in there), Dissidia (His moveset seems pretty closely based on it), and How Sephiroth got in (We may get confirmation on that rumor that Sakurai got Cloud back because they Square asked for Sephiroth too). Hopefully the larger 'History' section for him doesn't account for the slightly longer runtime for the Direct (I think tis longer, anyway).

I'm not expecting teases for the next character or anything; I'm just hoping its for a new mode or something beyond Sephiroth. Though, now that I think about it, there's a fair chance that any extra time may be devoted to revising the release schedule for the DLC; maybe telling us approximately when we should expect news on the next ones or if things will be delayed into 2022 thanks to everything going on. With Fighter 3/6 being dropped, its a good time to give a sort of Status Update for the Fighter's Pass as a whole (sales of it, reception, state of being, etc).

I just wish this thing were earlier in the day. It's going to be at 5pm for me, so I have to wait though an entire damn day just to hear it. Hopefully the actual release date for him is sometime next week; I don't want Winter Vacation to be done, forcing me back to work, the day he's released or something.


Sorely. The expression is sorely mistaken. You missed a good pun opportunity to say 'Sora'ly mistaken because of your mishap. Shame on you.

Actually Sephiroths run time is perfectly in the middle of the other presentations, same time as Min Min.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

"Euden would be such a unique character. He does have a sword sure, but he can also turn into a dragon, which is something nobody else can do."
"What about Co-"
"Nope! Nobody else."

To be fair though, Kirins aren't exactly what one pictures when one hears the word dragon.

 

[dream1ng]

A 35 Minute 'Sakurai Presents' for Sephiroth. Is that longer than average? Shorter? Or just typical of the length? I don't want to read into it, but I really do want to keep hope alive for a 'Boss Rush' mode to be added.

It's in the middle. Banjo and Hero were shorter, Byleth and Min Min were about the same, Steve and Terry were longer.

I'm not expecting teases for the next character or anything; I'm just hoping its for a new mode or something beyond Sephiroth. Though, now that I think about it, there's a fair chance that any extra time may be devoted to revising the release schedule for the DLC; maybe telling us approximately when we should expect news on the next ones or if things will be delayed into 2022 thanks to everything going on. With Fighter 3/6 being dropped, its a good time to give a sort of Status Update for the Fighter's Pass as a whole (sales of it, reception, state of being, etc).

That's not the kind of info Nintendo usually shares. I'm not expecting any of it, nor am I expecting a delay. They have all of 2021 for just three characters, that seems pretty doable. 2020 had four, and had to shift to wfh.

Plus they've already confirmed there won't be any announcements of future characters.

I just wish this thing were earlier in the day. It's going to be at 5pm for me, so I have to wait though an entire damn day just to hear it. Hopefully the actual release date for him is sometime next week; I don't want Winter Vacation to be done, forcing me back to work, the day he's released or somethingn.

Hopefully it's at an atypical time because it's shortly followed by the actual release.

 

[SharkLord]

1987年のきょう『ロックマン』発売!! pic.twitter.com/y5onxlIm6o

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) December 17, 2020

Mom said it's my turn to post the POTD

This one is celebrating Mega Man's anniversary.

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

1987年のきょう『ロックマン』発売!! pic.twitter.com/y5onxlIm6o

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) December 17, 2020

Mom said it's my turn to post the POTD

This one is celebrating Mega Man's anniversary.

Avatar for Smash confirmed.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Mom said it's my turn to post the POTD

This one is celebrating Mega Man's anniversary.

That bottom Mega Man gon' run out of Top Spin.

 

[cothero]

The character i want most is not going to be in smash, i'm well aware. I mean, nothing is impossible in Smash now, but i'd say it's extremely unlikely, so i'm still hoping for Leon even after those RE spirits (yup, i'm still a believer). Do i need to say what character it is? (my avatar, hint hint)

 

[dream1ng]

The character i want most is not going to be in smash, i'm well aware. I mean, nothing is impossible in Smash now, but i'd say it's extremely unlikely, so i'm still hoping for Leon even after those RE spirits (yup, i'm still a believer). Do i need to say what character it is? (my avatar, hint hint)

Duke of Gravity, from Rock Band?

Good choice.

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

The character i want most is not going to be in smash, i'm well aware. I mean, nothing is impossible in Smash now, but i'd say it's extremely unlikely, so i'm still hoping for Leon even after those RE spirits (yup, i'm still a believer). Do i need to say what character it is? (my avatar, hint hint)

If Scorpions reveal trailer doesn’t involve him ripping out Marios spine I’m suing Nintendo.

 

[Will]

The character i want most is not going to be in smash, i'm well aware. I mean, nothing is impossible in Smash now, but i'd say it's extremely unlikely, so i'm still hoping for Leon even after those RE spirits (yup, i'm still a believer). Do i need to say what character it is? (my avatar, hint hint)

Scorpion can get in Smash, it's never a never. i'm like one of the only ones who shill him here

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

maan idk bout yall but I'll take a Sora costume, I wont buy it but Ill take it. Its better then nothing

 

[Thewafflemaker2000]

Think we’ll be getting any new amiibo? Looking foward to the steve one haha.

 

[Faso115]

There is a chance they will announce a Min Min and Steve amiibo and the date would probably be given around FP9's showcase. But that's not guaranteed

 

[cothero]

maan idk bout yall but I'll take a Sora costume, I wont buy it but Ill take it. Its better then nothing

I'm not a Sora or Kingdom Hearts fan, but to negotiate with Disney and put him as a Mii Costume is offensive as ****.

 

[Thewafflemaker2000]

I'm ready for my Sora mii costume, Sakurai. Give it to me
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It’s easier to imagine a donald/goofy/Mickey mii costume

 

[Banado_Boy]

I'm not a Sora or Kingdom Hearts fan, but to negotiate with Disney and put him as a Mii Costume is offensive as ****.

tbh As a Sora fan, I’d be fine with a Sora Mii costume if it comes with a good music track (like maybe a battle remix for Dearly Beloved or something).

 

[Shroob]

tbh As a Sora fan, I’d be fine with a Sora Mii costume if it comes with a good music track (like maybe a battle remix for Dearly Beloved or something).

Wish granted


Simple and Clean it is.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Less than 24 hours remain.

Tomorrow. pic.twitter.com/Qg5y6hT1Pt

— Dee-Pad (@Destructo_Dan) December 16, 2020

I don't think Sora would be a costume (they wouldn't negotiate with Disney for anything less than a playable character), and neither does the creator of the meme, its just for meme purposes.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Wish granted


Simple and Clean it is.

Not Sanctuary?!
im calling the cops

 

[Shroob]

No Sanctuary?!
im calling the cops

Hey now.

Sephiroth + Simple and Clean together in the same package would make every pushing 30-year old freak the **** out.

 

[Lamperouge]

1987年のきょう『ロックマン』発売!! pic.twitter.com/y5onxlIm6o

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) December 17, 2020

Mom said it's my turn to post the POTD

This one is celebrating Mega Man's anniversary.

It's unfortunate that his play style doesn't really click with me but Mega Man is still easily one of my favorite additions to Smash. So many fond memories growing up with the classic series and I think that he was adapted perfectly.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I'm not a Sora or Kingdom Hearts fan, but to negotiate with Disney and put him as a Mii Costume is offensive as ****.

it yabba dabba doo be like that sometimes

 

[7NATOR]

So Sephiroth Might only have 2 Mii costumes (or 3 if he gets no warning for Release

Geno (♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior | Page 3674 | Smashboards

Pretty much Pinshadow looked at Promotion numbers, and disregarding the usual Messages that show up with any DLC Character, There's only 2 Slots for Mii Costumes

This was used to Predict that there were 6 Mii Costumes with Steve. I might have to go find that post to give this post more cred

But Sephiroth only might have 2 Costumes. YES

 

[M@R!3]

I'm not a Sora or Kingdom Hearts fan, but to negotiate with Disney and put him as a Mii Costume is offensive as ****.

This is pretty much how I feel about the idea. It would be a bit different if Sora had a design that was well suited for a mii costume. The only advantage would be killing the argument that Sora isn't a video game character, but I don't think most people believe that anymore.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

So Sephiroth Might only have 2 Mii costumes (or 3 if he gets no warning for Release

Geno (♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior | Page 3674 | Smashboards

Pretty much Pinshadow looked at Promotion numbers, and disregarding the usual Messages that show up with any DLC Character, There's only 2 Slots for Mii Costumes

This was used to Predict that there were 6 Mii Costumes with Steve. I might have to go find that post to give this post more cred

But Sephiroth only might have 2 Costumes. YES

Yep seems Square lives up to their stinginess.

If that's the case how did Sakurai and Nintendo work around for Sephiroth? Only logical explanation I can think is perhaps letting them gave Cloud under the condition they add Sephiroth as well.

 

[Goombaic]

So Sephiroth Might only have 2 Mii costumes (or 3 if he gets no warning for Release

Geno (♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior | Page 3674 | Smashboards

Pretty much Pinshadow looked at Promotion numbers, and disregarding the usual Messages that show up with any DLC Character, There's only 2 Slots for Mii Costumes

This was used to Predict that there were 6 Mii Costumes with Steve. I might have to go find that post to give this post more cred

But Sephiroth only might have 2 Costumes. YES

Didn't this week's event skip another event, meaning that said skipped event should be announcement 109, leaving only one Mii costume? I don't recall how the announcements work, but that sounds pretty good for Geno.

 

[RileyXY1]

So Sephiroth Might only have 2 Mii costumes (or 3 if he gets no warning for Release

Geno (♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior | Page 3674 | Smashboards

Pretty much Pinshadow looked at Promotion numbers, and disregarding the usual Messages that show up with any DLC Character, There's only 2 Slots for Mii Costumes

This was used to Predict that there were 6 Mii Costumes with Steve. I might have to go find that post to give this post more cred

But Sephiroth only might have 2 Costumes. YES

And they might be the Chocobo and Geno Mii Fighter costumes coming back from Smash 4.

 

[Icedragonadam]

Sakurai really wanted to pay homage to FFVII so much he even homaged Cloud's release and content too.

 

[PK Duststorm]

Theres a fan translation? Where can I get it?

I bought a fan translation rom dumped onto a physical cartridge off of amazon this past spring for under 20 bones.

 

[TwiceEXE]

So Sephiroth Might only have 2 Mii costumes (or 3 if he gets no warning for Release

Geno (♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior | Page 3674 | Smashboards

Pretty much Pinshadow looked at Promotion numbers, and disregarding the usual Messages that show up with any DLC Character, There's only 2 Slots for Mii Costumes

This was used to Predict that there were 6 Mii Costumes with Steve. I might have to go find that post to give this post more cred

But Sephiroth only might have 2 Costumes. YES

I'll have to dig into this, but if that's the case the safest assumption would just be a return of the 2 Mii's that came with Cloud: Chocobo Hat and Geno.

 

[7NATOR]

Just as a Reference

(6) Geno (♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior | Page 3409 | Smashboards

Here was the post about the Skipped Posts Relating to Steve, and how it pointed to 6 Mii costumes happening (I think at this point, Steve wasn't Known to be FP7)

Didn't this week's event skip another event, meaning that said skipped event should be announcement 109, leaving only one Mii costume? I don't recall how the announcements work, but that sounds pretty good for Geno.

Tournaments, Spirit Events, and these Game Messages have different Numbering systems from each other I believe, so The Missing Spirit Event shouldn't factor into this

 

[Icedragonadam]

Now I have to wonder about the rest of the content or lack of content Sephiroth is going to bring.

Probably only 2 more songs and probably like 4-5 spirits in the FFVII Spirit Board.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

If there are indeed only 2 Mii Costumes, then it's for sure the two returning ones from last time. It also probably means we'll get beans for music and Spirits.

 

[Shroob]

So exactly 2 Mii Costumes?


Well that's very not good news for Geno lol. If they really are giving us pittance for SE content... it seems like the simplest solution really is them just giving us the 2 returning costumes and nothing else.

 

[Spongeboob]

I have a feeling that Fighters Pass Volume 2 is what we thought Fighters Pass Volume 1 was going to be before Ultimate released.

Less than 24 hours remain.

Tomorrow. pic.twitter.com/Qg5y6hT1Pt

— Dee-Pad (@Destructo_Dan) December 16, 2020

Hey wait a minute...

Spoiler: Toy Story 3 spoilers

Does that mean they're in?

There is a chance they will announce a Min Min and Steve amiibo and the date would probably be given around CP9's showcase. But that's not guaranteed

I think it's way too early to show off the theoretical Min Min and Steve amiibo. We barely got the release dates for Byleth, Terry, and BK! I think we'll get info about them no earlier or later than CP9.

So Sephiroth Might only have 2 Mii costumes (or 3 if he gets no warning for Release

Geno (♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior | Page 3674 | Smashboards

Pretty much Pinshadow looked at Promotion numbers, and disregarding the usual Messages that show up with any DLC Character, There's only 2 Slots for Mii Costumes

This was used to Predict that there were 6 Mii Costumes with Steve. I might have to go find that post to give this post more cred

But Sephiroth only might have 2 Costumes. YES

He might, but I think he might have 4 Mii costumes since that's how many Hero (another Square Enix character) came with and it lines up with there being about 5 per fighter. Joker and Steve were the only other fighters to not have 5 (having 6), and Hero (who had 4) came right after Joker.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

2 costumes? Again?

Man, Geno really be in a game of russian roulette rn

 

[Captain Shwampy]

They really just saved chocobo and geno costumes just for this moment damn.

 

[SneakyLink]

They really just saved chocobo and geno costumes just for this moment damn.

It's like Smash 4 all over again, only difference is the character and stage.

 

[Icedragonadam]

I know FF music is a licensing nightmare, but is it the same for every FF character themselves?