Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Lamperouge]

What sparked this whole “Shulk is super young” discussion? I’ve never played Xenoblade but I’ve always just assumed he was like sixteen with a really deep voice.

Shulk is 18 in the main game and 19 in Future Connected.

 

[Eldrake]

If anything, Among Us could be a pretty cool spirit event.

Make it an innersloth themed event just to get Henry spirits.

I could see a Crewmate spirit battle work. Red Samus with an Invisible Ridley ally spamming Skewer

 

[Aerospherology]

Among Us on Switch apparently has Japanese as a language option:

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

Shulk is 18 in the main game and 19 in Future Connected.

Only a couple years off. Thats great by my standards.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

how is that close? The dude adopted a kid, ad it's prtty clear he's an adult.

Not from his appearance alone. Combine his youthful looks with the fact that the media has a weirdly high number of jacked teens, and he could easily pass for an 18 year old (which is technically an adult but you get the point).

If Among Us ever got a fighter in smash, I would definitely want their trailer to be a continuation to the Ridley trailer or at least the space station-esque setting. Just imagine, it makes you think it's going to be a character from a dark video game series like Doom, Halo or even Dead Space when you see Samus walking cautiously through a poorly-lit space station-ish location or continuing her fight with Ridley, then it turns out to be a trailer for a short colorful character with the appearance of a bean with legs.

Do like, a scene with Fox or something sneaking around a high-tech area. He uses his comm to try and get a headcount but nobody responds. He opens a door, and is shocked by what he sees. The camera cuts to Snake lying on the floor, presumably dead, then pans to the killer...

The Imposter Claims its Victims!

Cut to gameplay. During which the Imposter does a hard knockdown attack and runs away, only for another one to show up, and calls an Emergency Meeting.

The Crewmate Sounds the Alarm!

Then you get gameplay of the Crewmate doing stuff.

Fisti-Fluffs though

I think that one's my second favorite. My favorite is Tunche. It's got a unique style and world, and Hat Kid's there too for some reason...

 

[DarthEnderX]

I've always thought that the Falcondorf issue could be bypassed with something I'd call Styles that gives certain fighters the option of selecting between two completely different movesets. So Ganondorf could hypothetically have a Falcondorf style and a MoretruetotheZeldagames Warlock style.

No. Black Shadow with Falcondorf moveset. This is the way.

- Rivalry to Mario is only 2nd to Sonic the Hedgehog

That rivalry only ever existed in the minds of Sony execs...

 

[SpectreJordan]

I agree with this. I've always thought it was very weird that Crash was not in Playstation Allstars Battle Royal, he was litteraly the most legitimate character.

MaximillianDood apparently knows people who worked on the game. He said that Activision had some ridiculous demands for Crash. He couldn’t go into full detail, but he says that the whole story behind that game should be out within the next year.

That was 7 years ago though, so maybe they’ve changed their ways.

Has any relevant leak gained attention recently?... Vergeben (or any other credible leaker) hasn't gotten any new fighter info since Terry, so i guess things are being held pretty tight lately.

Not really. It seems like Nintendo’s really keeping things on lockdown this time around. Steve & Sephiroth’s names were floating around in late 2018 though, which is interesting since rumors about them have been non existent for a long time now.

I mean Imrhan, Im pretty sure, leaked Min Min so its not like theyre staying silent

It seems like any leaks nowadays are from the marketing team right when a character is about to be revealed. It doesn’t seem like anyone knows characters far in advance.

 

[TheBeastHimself]

The only barrier preventing Crash might be Activision as stated they're very greedy and shady.

I could see Activision trying to negotiate a COD character first.

 

[blackghost]

There's not much of a point debating it now, but between Sephiroth and Eggman, I'd definitely say Eggman would've been the more fitting and iconic addition. Eggman isn't even my first choice for a second Sonic rep, but he truly is one of, if not the most recognizable villain out of all the third-party franchise involved with Smash.

Either way, saying stuff like, "Eggman isn't serious enough," is a pretty lousy way to discredit him, no offense. Bowser isn't a very serious villain either, but you'd have a hard time finding a villain with a name as big as his.

bowser isnt normally intimidating but he has had his moments. galaxy, 64, and arguably 3d land. eggman hasnt ever been intimidating.
as for eggman being more iconic than sepiroth, yeah im gonna have to disagree there. in japan I dont even think thats close. the fact that you even say eggman would likely not be the second sonic rep while sephiroth is without a doubt the easy choice for second inclusion from FF says a lot.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

eggman hasnt ever been intimidating...

...in the games. He is downright terrifying every time his original M.O. is played straight.

 

[Megadoomer]

bowser isnt normally intimidating but he has had his moments. galaxy, 64, and arguably 3d land. eggman hasnt ever been intimidating.
as for eggman being more iconic than sepiroth, yeah im gonna have to disagree there. in japan I dont even think thats close. the fact that you even say eggman would likely not be the second sonic rep while sephiroth is without a doubt the easy choice for second inclusion from FF says a lot.

He was pretty intimidating in Sonic Adventure 2, when he held Amy hostage at gunpoint, launched Sonic into space and then blew up the capsule that he was in, and threatened the entire planet with an orbital laser cannon.

Regardless, "being intimidating" is hardly a major criteria for a villain to be included. Bowser Junior got into Smash before the likes of Ridley, Dark Samus, and Sephiroth.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

bowser isnt normally intimidating but he has had his moments. galaxy, 64, and arguably 3d land. eggman hasnt ever been intimidating.

If we're ignoring the various war crimes/genocides Eggman has done in the comics...

Eggman still blew up the moon and literally tore the planet apart, that's still kinda spooky no matter the context.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

I dunno, these dance moves are pretty intimidating.

 

[GoodGrief741]

bowser isnt normally intimidating but he has had his moments. galaxy, 64, and arguably 3d land. eggman hasnt ever been intimidating.
as for eggman being more iconic than sepiroth, yeah im gonna have to disagree there. in japan I dont even think thats close. the fact that you even say eggman would likely not be the second sonic rep while sephiroth is without a doubt the easy choice for second inclusion from FF says a lot.

I don't know how you can say that Sephiroth is obviously the second choice for Final Fantasy when so many people we're predicting the likes of Terra, Tifa, Black Mage, etc. instead. Final Fantasy is the franchise with the least defined hierarchy in terms of character inclusions imo, there's so many ways you could go.

Uhh, not that that has anything to do with how iconic a villain is? Bowser wasn't the second character for Mario, Ganondorf wasn't the second character for Zelda, I don't see how their iconicness is in dispute regardless.

 

[ALongWistfulSquiggle]

At this point if we were to get another villain, I'd personally most want someone that was on the lighter, more nimble side. Generally the bad guys have a lot of weight or big hits and I'd like to see a few more go in the other direction. The only one can think of at the moment is Hazama in Blazblue. I know there are a lot of others, but my mind isn't helping me out a lot.

What lighter, faster villain characters would you all like to see?

 

[SNEKeater]

Unrelated to Smash but I thought it would be interesting to share

A brand-new console is coming from SNK in 2021!
A system to bridge the needs between passionate fans and console gaming enthusiasts! #SNK pic.twitter.com/wsFLqr0hti

— SNK GLOBAL (@SNKPofficial) December 15, 2020

 

[blackghost]

I don't know how you can say that Sephiroth is obviously the second choice for Final Fantasy when so many people we're predicting the likes of Terra, Tifa, Black Mage, etc. instead. Final Fantasy is the franchise with the least defined hierarchy in terms of character inclusions imo, there's so many ways you could go.

Uhh, not that that has anything to do with how iconic a villain is? Bowser wasn't the second character for Mario, Ganondorf wasn't the second character for Zelda, I don't see how their iconicness is in dispute regardless.

you are thinking as a fan, not as a business. You are listing fan favorites not who would bring in the most attention and money. plus you arent looking at the pattern present in ultimate. everyone got villains added: dk, samus, kirby, megaman and more.
and no characters like black mage and terra dont compare to sephiroth. Tifa is closer but she's arguably not even the most influential female character in FF7.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

What lighter, faster villain characters would you all like to see?

Huh...There generally aren't many big villains that would move quickly in the context of Super Smash Bros. From what I can think of, I imagine:

• Dr. Eggman being pretty slow with his Eggmobile effectively making him a heavy.
• Dr. Wily being slow while in the Wily Machine, though anything involving the Wily Capsule would likely pick up the pace.
• King Boo would likely be a lightweight, but I don't think he'd be particularly fast, and depending on the direction he takes with his moveset, he could be like a heavy without the weight.
• Kamek would be a zoner, so he'd likely be pretty slow as well.

I really can't think of a realistic villain choice that would be in the top speed percentile.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

At this point if we were to get another villain, I'd personally most want someone that was on the lighter, more nimble side. Generally the bad guys have a lot of weight or big hits and I'd like to see a few more go in the other direction. The only one can think of at the moment is Hazama in Blazblue. I know there are a lot of others, but my mind isn't helping me out a lot.

What lighter, faster villain characters would you all like to see?

Mega Man has some promising ones. Sigma, Omega, Vile...
And everything I've heard of Akuma sounds qualifiable enough.

 

[Nekoo]

Want to have a tiny closed doors funni? From a Sekrit Smashboard DM that I shall not disclose?

This was two years ago, back when I heard about 'Hero' himself and the SE names going around by a friends working DEEP in SE, when I heard that Geno wasn't taken Seriously by SE, Sora was a red herring...Well, guess who was left?

Lesson of the day guys? **** your heart and biases, the reason win everytime.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Want to have a tiny closed doors funni? From a Sekrit Smashboard DM that I shall not disclose?

This was two years ago, back when I heard about 'Hero' himself and the SE names going around by a friends working DEEP in SE, when I heard that Geno wasn't taken Seriously by SE, Sora was a red herring...Well, guess who was left?

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Lesson of the day guys? **** your heart and biases, the reason win everytime.

So you're saying Crono is next.

I like this timeline.

 

[Nekoo]

So you're saying Crono is next.

I like this timeline.

I ****ing wish lmao, but from my understanding, Chrono's copyright issues are even worst than Sora with Disney.

 

[ALongWistfulSquiggle]

Huh...There generally aren't many big villains that would move quickly in the context of Super Smash Bros. From what I can think of, I imagine:

• Dr. Eggman being pretty slow with his Eggmobile effectively making him a heavy.
• Dr. Wily being slow while in the Wily Machine, though anything involving the Wily Capsule would likely pick up the pace.
• King Boo would likely be a lightweight, but I don't think he'd be particularly fast, and depending on the direction he takes with his moveset, he could be like a heavy without the weight.
• Kamek would be a zoner, so he'd likely be pretty slow as well.

I really can't think of a realistic villain choice that would be in the top speed percentile.

It's definitely tough. Most of the ones I think of are from Anime or comic books, so they aren't even part of the picture.

Mega Man has some promising ones. Sigma, Omega, Vile...
And everything I've heard of Akuma sounds qualifiable enough.

Oh, yeah. It's hard to go wrong with Mega Man, honestly. Especially from the X and Zero games.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

With Eggman its interesting that given the tendency of certain animated adaptations to downplay or obfuscate the villainy of the antagonists, early Sonic cartoons did the inverse; making their version of Eggman/Robotnik arguably the most evil version outside maybe something like the Fleetway comics:

As noted above, the character concept can be played up as particularly monstrous depending on the writing.

 

[7NATOR]

I do wonder what will happen to Crono, Considering he's really the only Character on the Square 7 List unaccounted for

I'll guess he'll be a Mii Costume. I believe he might have been negotiated for as Costume as same time as Hero, since I do believe you have to go through both Akira Toryima and Square, same as with Hero

 

[Eldrake]

Want to have a tiny closed doors funni? From a Sekrit Smashboard DM that I shall not disclose?

This was two years ago, back when I heard about 'Hero' himself and the SE names going around by a friends working DEEP in SE, when I heard that Geno wasn't taken Seriously by SE, Sora was a red herring...Well, guess who was left?

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Lesson of the day guys? **** your heart and biases, the reason win everytime.

Well, if this gets us that much coveted FP3...

 

[Momotsuki]

If we get a character ‘reveal’ in the presentation it’ll be some random minute detail they didn’t scrub like the SNK copyright leak.

Are you ready for the squabbles? Fruitless hopes for Lloyd, Klonoa? Until the inevitable? Maybe it'll be sooner than I think, and thus more direct, Team Shanghai Alice leaving no room for wondering. Of course, I can't imagine that kind of goof would happen period. The SNK leak wasn't a presentation goof. If I recall, it was a website goof.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

...Half of the moon is GONE?!!?

 

[Momotsuki]

Unrelated to Smash but I thought it would be interesting to share

A brand-new console is coming from SNK in 2021!
A system to bridge the needs between passionate fans and console gaming enthusiasts! #SNK pic.twitter.com/wsFLqr0hti

— SNK GLOBAL (@SNKPofficial) December 15, 2020

Oh my god, they're actually going to ****ing die.

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

So I’ve been studying the Bible recently and came across this image. Aside from Angles in the Bible being terrifying. Am I the only one who gets massive Galeem vibes from this image?
I know Galeem was supposed to angelic, but did Sakurai or the design team use this as a base?

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Fisti-Fluffs though

Break out the catnip and see which furious feline fighter will become best cat in the physics-based party game Fisti-Fluffs from @PlayfellowGames and @Rogue_Co!

Clawing its way onto #NintendoSwitch in early 2021. #IndieWorld pic.twitter.com/l4JVbauALY

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) December 15, 2020

Omg I love this

 

[chocolatejr9]

Oh my god, they're actually going to ****ing die.

Wait, how so?

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

Wait, how so?

I think it has to do with the fact SNK has basically none of the resources it needs in order to create a console and support it.

 

[Nekoo]

I do wonder what will happen to Crono, Considering he's really the only Character on the Square 7 List unaccounted for

I'll guess he'll be a Mii Costume. I believe he might have been negotiated for as Costume as same time as Hero, since I do believe you have to go through both Akira Toryima and Square, same as with Hero

Chrono's copyright is like even worst than Sora from what I understand.
Gotta deal with the Square and Enix part of Square Enix. AND Blue bird studio AND SHUEISHA.


So...Yeah, Chrono is the kind of character I wouldn't see as a Mii costume if you gonna jump through all of those loops

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

So I’ve been studying the Bible recently and came across this image. Aside from Angles in the Bible being terrifying. Am I the only one who gets massive Galeem vibes from this image?
I know Galeem was supposed to angelic, but did Sakurai or the design team use this as a base?

When "Biblically accurate angel" for Smash?

With Eggman its interesting that given the tendency of certain animated adaptations to downplay or obfuscate the villainy of the antagonists, early Sonic cartoons did the inverse; making their version of Eggman/Robotnik arguably the most evil version outside maybe something like the Fleetway comics:

As noted above, the character concept can be played up as particularly monstrous depending on the writing.

There's an alternate universe where Ridley's primary characterization in Smash is from Nintendo Power.

 

[chocolatejr9]

I think it has to do with the fact SNK has basically none of the resources it needs in order to create a console and support it.

I guess that WOULD explain the recent buyout...

 

[Dinoman96]

Interesting, this is the second person to claim that Chrono is a copyright nightmare. Max was the first.

I guess this might really explain why SE has bothered to do so little with the series over the years outside of ports. And possibly perhaps why Chrono Cross was so different and weird.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Happy Birthday to the best father in Midgar!

Please join us in wishing a very happy birthday to the most protective father in Midgar - Barret Wallace! pic.twitter.com/Jx2uWuAmWK

— FINAL FANTASY VII (@finalfantasyvii) December 15, 2020

 

[TheCJBrine]

So I’ve been studying the Bible recently and came across this image. Aside from Angles in the Bible being terrifying. Am I the only one who gets massive Galeem vibes from this image?
I know Galeem was supposed to angelic, but did Sakurai or the design team use this as a base?

Angels can actually take different forms, including human (making the “biblically-accurate angel” meme a bit confusing imo), but Galeem was likely inspired by how Seraphims are described to look like.

 

[PeridotGX]

...Half of the moon is GONE?!!?

i have no context for this