Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Kokiden]

Last Surprise was in the game, but you're right that the song from Joker's trailer (Life Will Change) didn't make it in. Which is a shame, because that song is great for pumping you up before a boss fight.

Whoops. I mixed up the songs lol. My bad.

But yes, I hope One Winged Angel is in. Don't bait us like that lol.

 

[extremeturkey]

If Cadence was one of the Mii costumes that came with a bonus music track, which one should they go with? (I've only played a bit of Crypt of the Necrodancer - I had a tough time figuring out the rhythm mechanics)

If I were in charge I would probably choose the song from level 1-2, BUT I think if they did add her they would probably choose 1-3's song, which plays on the title screen of the game. Or maybe just 1-1.

Also, I think they would make the shopkeeper's singing come in and out of the song.

 

[Shroob]

Whoops. I mixed up the songs lol. My bad.

But yes, I hope One Winged Angel is in. Don't bait us like that lol.

I feel like it more or less has to be, it's basically Sephiroth's themesong, and I feel like J-E-N-O-V-A has to be as well, considering the stage.


Hesitant if it'll be the one from the trailer though, which is the Advent Children one.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I feel like it more or less has to be, it's basically Sephiroth's themesong...

It'll definitely be in the game, but whether or not it'll just be his victory fanfare remains to be seen.

...

Please don't do this to us again Nintendo.

 

[MooMew64]

Imagine we get One Winged Angel

And it's the midi version instead of the Advent Children version.

...I wanna put "" at the end of this post, but I can't because this probably the likely outcome.

 

[Shroob]

It'll definitely be in the game, but whether or not it'll just be his victory fanfare remains to be seen.

...

Please don't do this to us again Nintendo.

God


Imagine if

"THE WINNER IS...SEPHIROTH!"
Chorus "SEPHIROTH"


One second, that's all you get! All we could afford! Go home!

 

[cashregister9]

I'd be fine with just Disco Descent.

Disco Descent would be great but my vote goes toward Konga Conga Kappa

 

[Shroob]

2 month anniversary of


Feels really ****ing weird we had these massive gaps between and and then barely 2 months later, boom, .


I still predict CP9 will drop in March due to the amiibos, but the lightning fast turn around between Steve to Sephiroth is kinda crazy.

 

[JamesDNaux]

Sephiroth coming without One Winged Angel would be like Banjo coming without Grunty's theme.


Wait...

 

[TheTuninator]

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2 month anniversary of


Feels really ****ing weird we had these massive gaps between and and then barely 2 months later, boom, .


I still predict CP9 will drop in March due to the amiibos, but the lightning fast turn around between Steve to Sephiroth is kinda crazy.

Seems plausible that Steve got jammed up by COVID and ended up backing up onto Sephiroth's launch window a little bit.

 

[Lamperouge]

I feel like I'm the only one here who prefers the OG One Winged Angel over Advent Children's version.

 

[Shroob]

Seems plausible that Steve got jammed up by COVID and ended up backing up onto Sephiroth's launch window a little bit.

Honestly, with the really sus spirit event/tournament shuffling, feels more like Steve was just being held onto for Minecon and nothing else really.


Still, going to be a bit weird going from a 2 month turnaround back to probably back-to-back 3 monthers with CP9 and CP10.

 

[Will]

I mean. Do you know what toddlers are like IRL?
This is a toddler (baby Bowser)

Bowser jr reads more like a bratty 7-10 year old boy to me.

He wears a goddamn bib and you're telling me he's 10?

 

[Ben Holt]

If the cost of keeping Final Fantasy characters in the base roster is having DLC Final Fantasy characters, I couldn't be happier.
Give us Zidane, Terra, Noctis, Black Mage, and Chokobo!

 

[Shroob]

He wears a goddamn bib and you're telling me he's 10?

Bowser Jr.'s being socially conscious about the current health climate.

 

[chocolatejr9]

If the cost of keeping Final Fantasy characters in the base roster is having DLC Final Fantasy characters, I couldn't be happier.
Give us Zidane, Terra, Noctis, Black Mage, and Chokobo!

Say, who's the one with a weapon that looks like a giant pizza cutter? I bet he'd be fun to play as.

Never underestimate the pizza cutter...

 

[Ben Holt]

He wears a goddamn bib and you're telling me he's 10?

It's a bandana!

 

[Will]

Imagine we get One Winged Angel

And it's the midi version instead of the Advent Children version.

I don't doubt the possibility, the version of Vampire Killer in Simon's trailer was literally from the Castlevania fighter no one remembers.

And the version from Judgement isn't in the final game.

EDIT: Oh **** it actually is, wait a minute!

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

He wears a goddamn bib and you're telling me he's 10?

It's a bandana, though he only sometimes wears it on his face.

 

[Shroob]

I don't doubt the possibility, the version of Vampire Killer in Simon's trailer was literally from the Castlevania fighter no one remembers.

And the version from Judgement isn't in the final game.

Are you sure about that?

 

[Will]

Are you sure about that?

It's a bandana, though he only sometimes wears it on his face.

It's a bandana!

I'm telling y'all this is totally a Mandela effect right now. What universe am I in? What other minute details will I get wrong tonight?

 

[Ben Holt]

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I'm telling y'all this is totally a Mandela effect right now. What universe am I in? What other minute details will I get wrong tonight?

Well umm... Did you know your name is spelled with two L's?

 

[Lamperouge]

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I'm telling y'all this is totally a Mandela effect right now. What universe am I in? What other minute details will I get wrong tonight?

Was it "Berenstein" or Berenstain"?

 

[Deleted member]

Spoiler

Rhea being a villain doesn't magically make it okay for Edelgard to do terrible things.

TWSITD are also bad, but you know what? Edelgard willingly works with them for years. Even after she sees all the terrible things they do. Oh hey, she's appalled that TWSITD are turning people in to monsters! Oh but not enough to stop her from getting their help.

And well yes. Edelgard has the power NOT to do bad things. She can't magically change Thales, but she can stop working with him and STOP COMMITING AND EXCUSING ATTROCITIES AND NOT STARTING CONTINENTAL WAR. Those are choices SHE made. You can't blame them on TWSITD. Just like you can't blame all of Rhea's crimes on the people who killed her race.

The thing that really gets me is that Edelgard never has a humbling moment. Dimitri and Rhea, two other characters who do awful things, see the light in some paths. They change and acknowledge they were wrong. Edelgard doesn't care about right and wrong. She cares about getting her revenge on the system that screwed her over and justifies it by saying she's helping the common man.

Yeah sure, I bet the common man is real happy for the continental war that spanned five years. I bet the common man is real happy that several villages got their citizens turned into monsters. I'm sure the common man is happy that their main religion has been attacked and effectively destroyed.

No to mention the things she does to Bernie if you don't recruit her and the fact that Petra is essentially a prisoner.

I have no sympathy for TH Edelgard. She's had terrible things happen to her, but she never had the strength to move past them. She is an embodiment of the ends justify the means and I hate that the game even implies that's okay.

FEH Edelgard is the only version I somewhat like, purely because her seeing other characters from other games is making her reconsider her actions.

You got me ranting. I do not regret my words here.

Spoiler

Okay, let me paraphrase some things.

1. Edelgard wasn't destroying the entirety of religion. She's just destroying the corrupt clerics in power.

2. The whole "Petra is essentially a prisoner" thing is wrong. I mean she automatically joins you in Crimson Flower, and Edelgard gives her autonomy at the end. She even does this in the other routes that aren't Crimson Flower.

3. I'm not wholly on "the ends justify the means" either. Like, I will heavily criticize an experiment if it does something horrible. But you really have to consider that a war was basically inevitable. TWSITD was still rampant, and TWSITD had nukes to destroy all of Fodlan in their possession. It is canon that Edelgard kills TWSITD after the route.

4. Edelgard does acknowledge she did stuff wrong. She is surprised when Byleth joins their side.

5. I mean Edelgard does kill TWSITD, and in the other routes, they still live. The problem is that Edelgard had to find a way to defeat TWSITD without them nuking the entire continent. They had so much power over the continent. It was very rough, but it was the only way that they could defeat TWSITD and destroy the system alongside with it. And she managed it. Just because Thales dies in the other routes, doesn't mean the group itself is over. They probably had to go through a long and tough war to remove them too.

6. How else was Edelgard supposed to stop TWSITD and Rhea? Was she supposed to be nice to Rhea, the upholder of the system she disagreed with? I mean even Claude wasn't fond of Rhea. He respected Edelgard, despite being enemies.

I'm not one of those "Edelgard did nothing wrong" people, for sure. I acknowledge she did wrong things. But she did some great things too. Honestly, almost every major character in Three Houses has done something wrong.

Yes, people do suffer in war. But read my points. And it is not like their lives were so much better in the noble system either.

Sorry if I got you mad, I really didn't mean to do it that way. I really appreciate your response, Swamp.

Sephiroth coming without One Winged Angel would be like Banjo coming without Grunty's theme.


Wait...

I mean, Banjo-Kazooie's main theme isn't Grunty's theme. That is Grunty's theme. Sephiroth's main theme is One Winged Angel. Simple as that.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I'm telling y'all this is totally a Mandela effect right now. What universe am I in?

You can see him wearing it in New Super Mario Bros. Wii's ending (10:45)

Fun Fact: His bandana is what allows him to turn into Shadow Mario in Super Mario Sunshine.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

I mean, Banjo-Kazooie's main theme isn't Grunty's theme. That is Grunty. Sephiroth's main theme is One Winged Angel. Simple as that.

I think he means the theme when you fight against Grunty, which in itself is a remix of the main theme, but also... y'know... a battle theme.

But it's still not the same situation as Sephiroth. Bringing the One-Winged Angel without One Winged Angel would be a crime.

 

[Deleted member]

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2 month anniversary of


Feels really ****ing weird we had these massive gaps between and and then barely 2 months later, boom, .


I still predict CP9 will drop in March due to the amiibos, but the lightning fast turn around between Steve to Sephiroth is kinda crazy.

Happy 2 month anniversary to an amazing character! I'm so happy Steve is in!!!

 

[TheBeastHimself]

If another Animal Crossing character got in, should it be K.K. Slider, Tom Nook, or someone else? I'd root for Phyllis, she's already got that no nonsense energy and ain't about to deal with PK Fire.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

You can see him wearing it in New Super Mario Bros. Wii's ending (10:45)

Fun Fact: His bandana is what allows him to turn into Shadow Mario in Super Mario Sunshine.

Another Fun Fact: You're talking about a different bandana. The one in Sunshine was dark blue and had a design of Mario's mustache.

 

[Will]

Was it "Berenstein" or Berenstain"?

I remember Berenstein honestly, but pronounced Berenstain. Thought it was just weird pronounciation.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Another Fun Fact: You're talking about a different bandana. The one in Sunshine was dark blue and had a design of Mario's mustache.

That was the one I was referring to. EDIT: I guess I should have made that more clear.

I do kinda wonder what he did with the bandana and the paint brush after Super Mario Sunshine.

 

[Deleted member]

If Tom Nook gets in Smash, they should make it for every death, you have to pay $1213.22 (1000€) in real life.

 

[Will]

That was the one I was referring to. EDIT: I guess I should have made that more clear.

I do kinda wonder what he did with the bandana and the paint brush after Super Mario Sunshine.

Well E. Gadd can't be a terrorist, so he obviously took it from the little kid.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Was it "Berenstein" or Berenstain"?

According to AVGN, it's actually "Bloodstain".

Never trust a family of bears.

 

[JamesDNaux]

I mean, Banjo-Kazooie's main theme isn't Grunty's theme. That is Grunty's theme. Sephiroth's main theme is One Winged Angel. Simple as that.

I mean the theme you hear for 90% of the first game, it's Grunty's theme, but it's practically the theme of the gameplay since you're traversing through her lair.

I think he means the theme when you fight against Grunty, which in itself is a remix of the main theme, but also... y'know... a battle theme.

But it's still not the same situation as Sephiroth. Bringing the One-Winged Angel without One Winged Angel would be a crime.

Any variation of the theme would have been fine, though I'd have preferred the final battle version. The lack of it at all is also a crime.


Clearly this just means Grunty is going to be a fighter and bring her theme with her to round out the content, just like Sephiroth with FF content.

 

[TheShiningAbsol]

That was the one I was referring to. EDIT: I guess I should have made that more clear.

I do kinda wonder what he did with the bandana and the paint brush after Super Mario Sunshine.

Don't know about the bandana, but the ending (if you don't get all 120 shines) shows Il Piantissimo finding the paintbrush.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

That was the one I was referring to. EDIT: I guess I should have made that more clear.

I do kinda wonder what he did with the bandana and the paint brush after Super Mario Sunshine.

He's a spoiled kid, so they're probably just gathering dust in his playroom along other discarded things

 

[Deleted member]

I mean the theme you hear for 90% of the first game, it's Grunty's theme, but it's practically the theme of the gameplay since you're traversing through her liar.

When Banjo-Kazooie walks in, do you hear Grunty's theme?

 

[Shroob]

I mean the theme you hear for 90% of the first game, it's Grunty's theme, but it's practically the theme of the gameplay since you're traversing through her lair.

Any variation of the theme would have been fine, though I'd have preferred the final battle version. The lack of it at all is also a crime.


Clearly this just means Grunty is going to be a fighter and bring her theme with her to round out the content, just like Sephiroth with FF content.

You joke

But Grunty with a hidden taunt ala Star Fox would be the best damn thing in the whole game.

 

[Takasmash]

My idea who could be the last three characters probably Ryu Hayabusa Crash Bandicoot and Master Chief.