Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Aerospherology]

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Rango

Rango is a video game published by Paramount Digital Entertainment and was released in March 1, 2011 and based of the film with the same name. It was released for Wii and DS consoles. In the game, players take place in the role of Rango the chameleon and the game takes place in the Mojave...

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DONKEY KONG HOCKEY
HYYYYYYYYYYYPE

 

[Teeb147]

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Rango

Rango is a video game published by Paramount Digital Entertainment and was released in March 1, 2011 and based of the film with the same name. It was released for Wii and DS consoles. In the game, players take place in the role of Rango the chameleon and the game takes place in the Mojave...

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Lithopod Family from pikmin :O

 

[Evil Trapezium]

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Rango

Rango is a video game published by Paramount Digital Entertainment and was released in March 1, 2011 and based of the film with the same name. It was released for Wii and DS consoles. In the game, players take place in the role of Rango the chameleon and the game takes place in the Mojave...

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Oh no I got a Fire Emblem character.

 

[ahemtoday]

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Rango

Rango is a video game published by Paramount Digital Entertainment and was released in March 1, 2011 and based of the film with the same name. It was released for Wii and DS consoles. In the game, players take place in the role of Rango the chameleon and the game takes place in the Mojave...

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Dayzee Syrup. Not the Mario RPG rep anyone wants, to be honest.

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

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Rango

Rango is a video game published by Paramount Digital Entertainment and was released in March 1, 2011 and based of the film with the same name. It was released for Wii and DS consoles. In the game, players take place in the role of Rango the chameleon and the game takes place in the Mojave...

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I got Seel. Our next Pokemon rep baby!

 

[SKX31]

Ok but really I was memeing and wasn’t expect to derail the thread uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Anybody stare at the CSS recently?

I'm not going to stare at the CSS yet because there's not enough Banjos in Smash.

So I'll want a certain song by Banjo Paterson. Namely Australia's national anthem.

Oh no I got a Fire Emblem character.

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So did I, and mine was from Mystery of the Emblem no less.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Wow I didn’t actually think I would get so many genuine responses to that question.

I mainly wanted to stir the pot by saying Coke was my favorite

But did the essay reeling work again? ...I think I’m 2-0 BAYBEEEEEE!

 

[Mushroomguy12]

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Rango

Rango is a video game published by Paramount Digital Entertainment and was released in March 1, 2011 and based of the film with the same name. It was released for Wii and DS consoles. In the game, players take place in the role of Rango the chameleon and the game takes place in the Mojave...

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Iris Archwell from Monster Manor.

 

[Speed Weed]

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Rango

Rango is a video game published by Paramount Digital Entertainment and was released in March 1, 2011 and based of the film with the same name. It was released for Wii and DS consoles. In the game, players take place in the role of Rango the chameleon and the game takes place in the Mojave...

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I got the entire list of Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection games

Which of course means that it's the Nintendo Wi-Fi logo with a composite moveset featuring every single one of the following games:

Spoiler

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• Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
• Animal Crossing: Wild World
• Bleach: Dark Souls
• Bomberman Land Touch
• Bomberman Land Touch 2
• Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin
• Clubhouse Games
• Club Penguin: Elite Penguin Force
• Club Penguin Elite Penguin Force: Herbert's Revenge
• Contact
• Custom Robo Arena
• Diddy Kong Racing DS
• Digimon World DS
• Digimon World Dawn & Dusk
• DS Air
• DS Browser
• Exit DS
• Final Fantasy III
• Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates
• Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time
• Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo Tales
• Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars
• Heroes of Mana
• Konductra
• LostMagic
• Luminous Arc
• Magician's Quest: Mysterious Times
• Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games
• Mario Kart DS
• Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis
• Marvel Trading Card Game
• Mega Man Star Force: Dragon
• Mega Man Star Force: Leo
• Mega Man Star Force: Pegasus
• Mega Man Star Force 2: Ninja X Zerker
• Mega Man Star Force 2: Saurian X Zerker
• Metroid Prime Hunters
• Naruto 3
• Naruto: Path of Ninja 2
• Open Season
• Picross DS
• Picross 3D
• Planet Puzzle League
• Pogo Island
• Pokémon Black
• Pokémon Black 2
• Pokémon Diamond
• Pokémon HeartGold
• Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Darkness
• Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time
• Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia
• Pokémon Pearl
• Pokémon Platinum
• Pokémon SoulSilver
• Pokémon White
• Pokémon White 2
• Professor Layton and the Curious Village
• Race Driver
• Rune Factory
• Sonic Rush Adventure
• Spectrobes
• Star Fox Command
• Suikoden Tierkreis
• Surf's Up
• Tenchu: Dark Secret
• Tetris DS
• The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass
• The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks
• Tony Hawk Downhill Jam
• Tony Hawk's American Sk8land
• TouchMaster
• Trans-formers: Autobots
• Trans-formers: Decepticons
• Winning Eleven Pro Evolution Soccer
• Word Jong
• Worms Open Warfare 2
• Yu-Gi-Oh GX Spirit Caller
• Yu-Gi-Oh! StarDust Accelerator World Championship 2009
• Animal Crossing: City Folk
• Battalion Wars II
• Call of Duty: Black Ops
• Call of Duty: Modern Warfare: Reflex Edition
• Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
• Endless Ocean
• GoldenEye 007 (2010)
• Guitar Hero III
• Mario Strikers Charged
• Mario Sports Mix
• Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games
• Pokémon Battle Revolution
• Super Smash Bros. Brawl
• Mario Kart Wii
• Tatsunoko vs. Capcom: Ultimate All Stars
• The Last Story
• Wii Chess
• Conduit
• Conduit 2
• Tetris Party Deluxe
• Virtua Tennis 2009

 

[SpectreJordan]

Yeah, when comparing the base roster characters to all of the DLC fighters which were new to their respective Smash Bros. entries, there's clearly a pattern with how everything's structured.
To the point that, ironically, some of the most popular 1st Party requests have less of an opportunity than not-so-popular 3rd Party requests to join the battle in a Nintendo fighting game at this point.

Base roster picks have proven to be quite flexible, presenting a clear emphasis on including popular and/or iconic Nintendo characters no matter their current status within their respective Nintendo properties. Therefore, there typically isn't as much of a focus on 3rd Party characters in general at the time.

DLC picks on the other hand have proven to be more selective, presenting a defined emphasis on including characters only if they bring something new to the table. 3rd Party characters can pull this off easily, which is probably why they're favored during this time. Granted, Sm4sh's DLC was as unorthodox as it could get, since it began by dishing out characters who were already in Smash before. However, the last few picks (Ryu, Cloud, Corrin, and Bayonetta) satisfied this hidden quota for DLC characters moving forward.

Therefore, I believe that we certainly won't see them pulling Bandana Dee, Waluigi, or Dixie Kong out of a hat for no particular reason at all.
Heck, I don't even think popularity has anything to do with it, at least more than satisfying this particular quota of bringing something new to Smash.
Fire Emblem is pretty lucky since it has a rotating cast with new protagonists for each entry, because this provides a perfect opportunity to pick someone fresh and new from that series for the roster during the DLC period. Min Min had the benefit of being a Nintendo IP which hadn't been properly represented in Smash before the DLC period began. Not to mention that ARMS came out before Ultimate, unlike Splatoon and Sm4sh, so everything worked in the Smash Team's favor. But most importantly, the quota was fulfilled.

The same can't easily be said for those other three characters I mentioned (or certain other 1st Party requests), unless there is something from their own respective franchises of which they themselves could promote. Which might sound easy at first until you look back at how Fire Emblem, a franchise already represented in Smash, brought even more representation into Smash through DLC: It was fresh, it was specific, and the character had a starring role within that specific game.

Let's compare this logic to my most wanted 1st party character (and most wanted in general), Bandana Waddle Dee.

The latest core entry in the Kirby franchise thus far was Kirby Star Allies. Could he use that as a ticket into Smash? Let's see...
Is the game in question fresh? Compared to even Three Houses, not exactly.
Is the game in question specific? Yep, it wouldn't be promotion in the form of a range of games.
Does the character have a starring role? It's debatable, since Kirby was clearly shown as the main protagonist from the start of the game's first cutscene.
Additionally, there is at least one music track from the game which is currently in Ultimate, so there's already representation for the game beyond Spirits.
Therefore, this wouldn't be a good base for Bandana Dee to stand on and thus he wouldn't fulfill the quota.

The solution for characters like Bandana Dee would be to hope that a fresh, new game for their respective franchise comes along during the DLC period, of which they also star in as a main playable character. (Oh yeah, the emphasis on DLC protagonists also convinces me that there won't be any villains in any Fighter Pass, unless they're somehow main playable characters who stack up to the main protagonist, but that's another topic).

Anyway, if anyone wants to dissect any particular point(s) and have a little chat, feel free. Otherwise, I just wanted to place my thoughts on the debate between 1st and 3rd Party character.

You definitely nailed it on the head with your base game vs DLC comparison. I sort of feel that Nintendo saves characters like Ridley/K Rool or BanDee/Dixie for the base game. They’re characters that are easy to implement that Nintendo will always have access to & will hype the Smash/Nintendo loyalists up for the new game.

I still think we’re in for another Nintendo character. But I imagine it’ll be a Switch era character. The Switch’s library has been so fantastic that I’m down for giving it even more love.

 

[PeridotGX]

I got Agaar from Shadowgate 64: Trials of the Four Towers

let's ****ing gooooooooooooooo

 

[Al-kīmiyā']

It's an ongoing ordeal, people won't stop talking about it all of a sudden.

They were talking about things they should have covered weeks ago.

 

[Ivander]

So remind me again when TGA starts? Tomorrow or the 11th?

 

[Aerospherology]

So remind me again when TGA starts? Tomorrow or the 11th?

Depending on time zones. In the US, it's tomorrow evening.

 

[MooMew64]

So remind me again when TGA starts? Tomorrow or the 11th?

It's tomorrow at these times:

• US West Coast: 4 PM PT
• US East Coast: 7 PM ET
• UK: 12 AM GMT (December 11)
• Sydney, Australia: 11 AM AET (December 11)

 

[SharkLord]

So remind me again when TGA starts? Tomorrow or the 11th?

Tomorrow

 

[edumolon11]

Okay I got to ask

If we don't get a Smash reveal at TGA's, but we do get one This Month, How would that change your Predictions for FP8?

FP8 at TGA's = Big and known third party name/promotion: Crash, Dante, Sora, Doom, Fortnite...

FP8 in a random presentation = First party (Rex/Isaac/Pokemon/Dixie, etc) or a third party more unknown for casual public (Arle, Geno...)

 

[Lyncario]

time for a fun game. Click this link, whatever you get will be the next DLC fighter

Rango

Rango is a video game published by Paramount Digital Entertainment and was released in March 1, 2011 and based of the film with the same name. It was released for Wii and DS consoles. In the game, players take place in the role of Rango the chameleon and the game takes place in the Mojave...

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Takayuki Mogami, an Oboist who did music for Mario, Zelda, and Octopath.

Welp.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

So remind me again when TGA starts? Tomorrow or the 11th?

It’s already over. You missed the disconfirmation of Pepsiman, resulting in my sudden betrayal to preferring Coke and other Coca-Cola products.

I also stan Coke Bear now.

 

[PSIGuy]

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Rango

Rango is a video game published by Paramount Digital Entertainment and was released in March 1, 2011 and based of the film with the same name. It was released for Wii and DS consoles. In the game, players take place in the role of Rango the chameleon and the game takes place in the Mojave...

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Rex

Oh.

(Dragalia Lost)

Oh...?
Would result in a lot of "very close but still wrong" predictions in this thread.

 

[JOJONumber691]

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Rango

Rango is a video game published by Paramount Digital Entertainment and was released in March 1, 2011 and based of the film with the same name. It was released for Wii and DS consoles. In the game, players take place in the role of Rango the chameleon and the game takes place in the Mojave...

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[Will]

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Rango

Rango is a video game published by Paramount Digital Entertainment and was released in March 1, 2011 and based of the film with the same name. It was released for Wii and DS consoles. In the game, players take place in the role of Rango the chameleon and the game takes place in the Mojave...

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oh ok then i guess

 

[PeridotGX]

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oh ok then i guess

In a simmilar vein to Ice Climbers, ???? from Chrono Trigger, ???? from Final Fantasy, and ???-Type Arceus team up for DLC8.

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

In a simmilar vein to Ice Climbers, ???? from Chrono Trigger, ???? from Final Fantasy, and ???-Type Arceus team up for DLC8.

Turns out it's actually done closer to Pokemon Trainer.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Oh.

Oh...?
Would result in a lot of "very close but still wrong" predictions in this thread.

Don't worry, he's a cool guy. I've read his Adventurer Story.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Now that I think about it actually, if there is a Smash pick and folks know about it, it seems we’re closing in on that time when it might start to be hinted at.

I’m not expecting a reveal but I think you may want to keep an eye out if you’re not looking to get spoiled!

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Imagine drinking anything but water.

This isn't a joke

Ah yes. All other drinks are inherently unhealthy and must never ever be consumed.

So says the internet.

Not a jab at you specifically, I'm just annoyed with what's readily accessible about fitness in general.

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RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!!

Or, ya'know. Just go into Overdrive for about 8 minutes.

 

[SNEKeater]

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Rango

Rango is a video game published by Paramount Digital Entertainment and was released in March 1, 2011 and based of the film with the same name. It was released for Wii and DS consoles. In the game, players take place in the role of Rango the chameleon and the game takes place in the Mojave...

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i got Pac-Man. he's for sure a gaming icon, it would be nice if Nintendo added him to Smash. even the render I got looks like from Smash

 

[TheCJBrine]

They're going to reveal Herobrine tomorrow, shortly before removing him.

Spoiler: Proof

They will then reveal Noge from Moon RPG, taking Herobrine's place.

Spoiler: Proof

who needs proof when you have japes like these.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

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Rango

Rango is a video game published by Paramount Digital Entertainment and was released in March 1, 2011 and based of the film with the same name. It was released for Wii and DS consoles. In the game, players take place in the role of Rango the chameleon and the game takes place in the Mojave...

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Fairy Ocarina

...so would this be Link 4 or Zelda 2?

 

[Munchi]

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Rango

Rango is a video game published by Paramount Digital Entertainment and was released in March 1, 2011 and based of the film with the same name. It was released for Wii and DS consoles. In the game, players take place in the role of Rango the chameleon and the game takes place in the Mojave...

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Zero: Tsukihami no Kamen(Fatal frame IV)

Very good actually

 

[Rie Sonomura]

One of these fine lads

Oh I remember that game! They had it in the arcade of one theater I used to frequent as a kid!

 

[Goombaic]

Number one hope for the Game Awards is that it has better game announcements than last year. I don't think there was a single world premiere that blew me out of my seat last year.

I'm not going to stare at the CSS yet because there's not enough Banjos in Smash.

So I'll want a certain song by Banjo Paterson. Namely Australia's national anthem.

I sometimes forget just how much Civ can rely on stereotypes.

 

[MooMew64]

Now that I think about it actually, if there is a Smash pick and folks know about it, it seems we’re closing in on that time when it might start to be hinted at.

I’m not expecting a reveal but I think you may want to keep an eye out if you’re not looking to get spoiled!

It'll probably crop up around tomorrow morning if there is something. If there isn't any word from people by late tomorrow morning, I'm throwing out the idea of a reveal, personally.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

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Rango

Rango is a video game published by Paramount Digital Entertainment and was released in March 1, 2011 and based of the film with the same name. It was released for Wii and DS consoles. In the game, players take place in the role of Rango the chameleon and the game takes place in the Mojave...

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Cortez/gallery

These are images of Cortez.

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...I'm okay with this. The more pirates and undead the better~

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Now that I think about it actually, if there is a Smash pick and folks know about it, it seems we’re closing in on that time when it might start to be hinted at.

I’m not expecting a reveal but I think you may want to keep an eye out if you’re not looking to get spoiled!

The only way we'll know is the same guy leaking it at the exact last minute as with Steve.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Cortez/gallery

These are images of Cortez.

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...I'm okay with this. The more pirates and undead the better~

Ohhhh you were so close, just add a Sergeant before the name and you’ve have one happy Evil Trapezium

 

[Mushroomguy12]

It’s already over. You missed the disconfirmation of Pepsiman, resulting in my sudden betrayal to preferring Coke and other Coca-Cola products.

I also stan Coke Bear now.

Looks like he has some cousins who can help him get in too.

 

[Perkilator]

Protagonist (Astral Chain) - The Nintendo Wiki - Wii, Nintendo DS, and all things Nintendo (fandom.com)
YEAH **** YOU NO POST-LAUNCH SPIRITS RULE

 

[MeteoRain]

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Rango

Rango is a video game published by Paramount Digital Entertainment and was released in March 1, 2011 and based of the film with the same name. It was released for Wii and DS consoles. In the game, players take place in the role of Rango the chameleon and the game takes place in the Mojave...

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Trevenant

Plant Gang