Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[chocolatejr9]

Which rumor in particular? What does it entail?

Supposedly, an SMRPG remake is in the works, and is meant to coincide with Geno. Problem is, the only place I've heard THAT one be mentioned is, well, the Geno thread. Apparently leakers have mentioned it, but wouldn't people be talking about it more if that were the case? Not even GameXplain has mentioned, and at least one of their members (Andre) is a HUGE Geno supporter.

 

[SharkLord]

Supposedly, an SMRPG remake is in the works, and is meant to coincide with Geno. Problem is, the only place I've heard THAT one be mentioned is, well, the Geno thread. Apparently leakers have mentioned it, but wouldn't people be talking about it more if that were the case? Not even GameXplain has mentioned, and at least one of their members (Andre) is a HUGE Geno supporter.

Yeah, I've heard it tossed around a bit there, but I don't know exactly where it cropped up. I'm kinda hesitant on that one. Doesn't help that I'm pretty hesitant on leaks in general.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Isaac thread: "THERE'S A NEW GOLDEN SUN COMING!"

Geno thread: " THERE'S A SMRPG REMAKE COMING!"

Is this just gonna be the excuse for every irrelevant character now?

 

[Perkilator]

Isaac thread: "THERE'S A NEW GOLDEN SUN COMING!"

Geno thread: " THERE'S A SMRPG REMAKE COMING!"

Is this just gonna be the excuse for every irrelevant character now?

Man, what I'd give for a Tomato Adventure remake.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Isaac thread: "THERE'S A NEW GOLDEN SUN COMING!"

Geno thread: " THERE'S A SMRPG REMAKE COMING!"

Is this just gonna be the excuse for every irrelevant character now?

Hold on, let me try something.

ahem

THERE'S A NEW BILLY HATCHER GAME COMING!

Did it work? Did I will it into existance?

 

[7NATOR]

Apprantly The SMRPG remake really got brought into the Public eye when Rogersbase mentioned it, but it be around in inside circles like the ones Fatman is apart of for awhile though, and some people from the Geno thread knew about it

But Any of the really credible insiders haven't really put their thoughts on it. the closet was a friend of Emily Rogers speaking on it, but that's just the friend and not emily herself

 

[SharkLord]

Isaac thread: "THERE'S A NEW GOLDEN SUN COMING!"

Geno thread: " THERE'S A SMRPG REMAKE COMING!"

Is this just gonna be the excuse for every irrelevant character now?

While we're at it Imma just plug the Klonoa Encore trademark 'cause why not

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

what is Saga Frontier??

 

[JamesDNaux]

In retrospect, it's honestly a little strange that we haven't gotten a tournament based around fighters with long reaches yet. You would figure that we would've got one with Byleth or especially Min Min. Maybe we're getting another distance demon in Smash? But I can't see them going past Min Min's range. Maybe it's a fighter with relatively long-range on their normals for their archetype or body type?

The only living thing that can outrange Min Min.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Isaac thread: "THERE'S A NEW GOLDEN SUN COMING!"

Geno thread: " THERE'S A SMRPG REMAKE COMING!"

Is this just gonna be the excuse for every irrelevant character now?

This is what happens when you try to deconfirm characters for not having their last game come out in 2019.

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

Apprantly The SMRPG remake really got brought into the Public eye when Rogersbase mentioned it, but it be around in inside circles like the ones Fatman is apart of for awhile though, and some people from the Geno thread knew about it

But Any of the really credible insiders haven't really put their thoughts on it. the closet was a friend of Emily Rogers speaking on it, but that's just the friend and not emily herself

Personally I think the SMRPG remake is either leakbait or it's instead SMRPG coming on Nintendo Switch Online. Nintendo hasn't been using the Mario RPG series' full potential for a while now other than just ports of two of the Mario & Luigi games and some contested sequels for Paper Mario. Why would they do a Super Mario RPG remake? They clearly care little about those games.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Hold on, let me try something.

ahem

THERE'S A NEW BILLY HATCHER GAME COMING!

Did it work? Did I will it into existance?

No but keep doing it, I want a Billy Hatcher 2

 

[SharkLord]

Personally I think the SMRPG remake is either leakbait or it's instead SMRPG coming on Nintendo Switch Online. Nintendo hasn't been using the Mario RPG series' full potential for a while now other than just ports of two of the Mario & Luigi games and some contested sequels for Paper Mario. Why would they do a Super Mario RPG remake? They clearly care little about those games.

If it was leakbait, it'd be made to weed out actual leakers. I'd imagine we'd be hearing about it from more people if that were the case, but I can't judge until I hear about where it came from.

If it were just a port, it'd still be using the old trademark. At most, it'd add a little footnote to the original, like with the Shadow Dragon re-release.

...Wait, this post wasn't about trademarks.

Fricc

 

[PeridotGX]

Isaac thread: "THERE'S A NEW GOLDEN SUN COMING!"

Geno thread: " THERE'S A SMRPG REMAKE COMING!"

Is this just gonna be the excuse for every irrelevant character now?

To be fair there probably is an Explorers of Sky remake in the works.

 

[cashregister9]

what is Saga Frontier??

A decently popular Square enix JRPG, I have yet to play Frontier myself but I have played the Prequel Romancing SaGa.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

It kind of shows Square Enix's odd sense of porting sensibilities when a Saga Frontier remake will likely be on Smash before any versions of the first six Final Fantasy games will be.

 

[Lamperouge]

Hey so, Square Enix just dropped a surprise announcement on us:

The 1998 classic is back: SaGa Frontier is being remastered with updated graphics, events, cutscenes, enhancements (and a new protagonist!) for PlayStation 4, Nintendo Switch, Steam, iOS, and Android - launching in Summer 2021 pic.twitter.com/3VsrEReHnA

— Square Enix (@SquareEnix) November 28, 2020

Obviously this means that our new Square rep could be from SaGa.

 

[ALongWistfulSquiggle]

It kind of shows Square Enix's odd sense of porting sensibilities when a Saga Frontier remake will likely be on Smash before any versions of the first six Final Fantasy games will be.

If some of the Steam patches are indicative of anything, they may be thinking about it. I know FF IV and V have gotten patches dealing with fonts and menus years after their initial release on Steam. I believe that happened late last year. The unfortunate part (if it actually means anything for a Switch port) is that we'd be getting ports of ports of the phone versions.

 

[7NATOR]

So there's something I was wondering

When Plant Released back in February of 2019, we found Slots for 16 Characters right, with Plant taking up one.

With 15 slots, Theoretically that could have added up to 3 Fighter Passes, with a 5/5/5 Split between each

FP1: 5 Characters

FP2: 5 Characters

FP3: 5 Characters

Plus the CSS Limit at the moment is 90 characters, which is what we would have if all the slots were filled

Is there a possibility that a FP3 was also in the talks at the same Time FP2 was, but then it was decided FP2 would be the ending of Ultimate

Does this also add credence to Whoever Challenger Pack 11 is being a Extra, Special Character of some sorts?

 

[chocolatejr9]

If some of the Steam patches are indicative of anything, they may be thinking about it. I know FF IV and V have gotten patches dealing with fonts and menus years after their initial release on Steam. I believe that happened late last year. The unfortunate part (if it actually means anything for a Switch port) is that we'd be getting ports of ports of the phone versions.

Any further and we'd be having port-ception.

 

[ALongWistfulSquiggle]

Any further and we'd be having port-ception.

The mobile version of FF IV is already a port of the DS remake, so I think we're too late.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Any further and we'd be having port-ception.

The mobile version of FF IV is already a port of the DS remake, so I think we're too late.

Chrono Trigger be like:

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

If some of the Steam patches are indicative of anything, they may be thinking about it. I know FF IV and V have gotten patches dealing with fonts and menus years after their initial release on Steam. I believe that happened late last year. The unfortunate part (if it actually means anything for a Switch port) is that we'd be getting ports of ports of the phone versions.

The Final Fantasy mobile ports feel like they exist as the spiritual antithesis of the Sonic mobile ports. Everyone's been begging Sega to bring the latter to PC/Console while most fans desperately want the former to stay on phones and tablets and get the originals instead.

 

[ZelDan]

I vaguely recall hearing something about how due to how successful the Trials of mana remake was, it encouraged SE to bring back more of their classic stuff. So SaGa Frontier returning could be a result of that.

Could this mean the same thing for SMRPG? I dunno, I'm guessing SMRPG would be more complicated due to having to have Nintendo's approval as well, whereas the Mana series and SaGa I'm guessing are completely Square?

 

[Rie Sonomura]

if SE wants to bring more classic franchises back, I wanna see Parasite Eve (with a new game that retcons the hell out of 3rd Birthday) and Star Ocean (I’m still sad about the English version of Anamnesis shutting down)

oh and a port of Chrono Cross, just do what you did with FFIX idc

 

[RileyXY1]

So there's something I was wondering

When Plant Released back in February of 2019, we found Slots for 16 Characters right, with Plant taking up one.

With 15 slots, Theoretically that could have added up to 3 Fighter Passes, with a 5/5/5 Split between each

FP1: 5 Characters

FP2: 5 Characters

FP3: 5 Characters

Plus the CSS Limit at the moment is 90 characters, which is what we would have if all the slots were filled

Is there a possibility that a FP3 was also in the talks at the same Time FP2 was, but then it was decided FP2 would be the ending of Ultimate

Does this also add credence to Whoever Challenger Pack 11 is being a Extra, Special Character of some sorts?

I don't think that CP11 is anything special, especially considering that Smash usually tends to end on disappointing notes.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Smash has a history of not ending on anything big. I expect the same with FP11.

 

[I.D.]

Hey so, Square Enix just dropped a surprise announcement on us:

The 1998 classic is back: SaGa Frontier is being remastered with updated graphics, events, cutscenes, enhancements (and a new protagonist!) for PlayStation 4, Nintendo Switch, Steam, iOS, and Android - launching in Summer 2021 pic.twitter.com/3VsrEReHnA

— Square Enix (@SquareEnix) November 28, 2020

Looking forward to a new generation of people being utterly confused by Blue's ending.

Also Xenogears when. Concerts and figures are cool Square but I actually want to play the game legally.

 

[7NATOR]

Maybe Nintendo could have hired Square to do SMRPG Remake, or maybe they just licensed the characters out to them.

I Don't think it be that hard.

I don't think that CP11 is anything special, especially considering that Smash usually tends to end on disappointing notes.

I don't think FP11 would be the most hype character (well for the Majority), but that it be Special in that this character is different from the other 5 characters in more ways than one

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Honestly, I don't think there's going to be a character that will top Steve. I think he's the hypest we'll get in this Pass.

Especially since I don't see Sora happening. I still suspect we'll get one more big reveal but I don't think it's gonna top Steve. Not even close.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

It kind of shows Square Enix's odd sense of porting sensibilities when a Saga Frontier remake will likely be on Smash before any versions of the first six Final Fantasy games will be.

It was already weird that we have almost all of the "classic Playstation" FF games originally released on Playstation and Playstation 2 (VII, VIII, IX, X, X-2, XII) on the Switch but none of the ones originally released on Famicom/Super Famicom.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Honestly, I don't think there's going to be a character that will top Steve. I think he's the hypest we'll get in this Pass.

Especially since I don't see Sora happening. I still suspect we'll get one more big reveal but I don't think it's gonna top Steve. Not even close.

Yeah that's typically what happens when we get the literal best selling game of all time in the game. Still wild that it made twitter crash for the first time since Micheal Jackson doed iirc

 

[I.D.]

It kind of shows Square Enix's odd sense of porting sensibilities when a Saga Frontier remake will likely be on Smash before any versions of the first six Final Fantasy games will be.

Well I'm glad for one. It's about time some of these smaller PS1 Square games finally get some spotlight instead re-releasing FFIV for the millionth time.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Heck, I don't even think Crash and Geno will be happening to be honest. Crash especially feeling people have been oversaturated his chances (Especially since this high demand only increased upon the reveal of the N. Sane Trilogy which was only three years ago, by that time the game was in development and he can't be compared since ones like Banjo, K. Rool and Ridley had been requested for nearly two decades (In K. Rool's cases a decade at most). Crash I think will, unfortunately, have to wait until Smash 6 to make his appearance.

Geno I think will return but as a premium Mii costume given the trend of returning SSB4 Mii costumes with Lloyd likely being next.

The biggest-tier character I could see at most is someone like Dante but that's it, who while I feel his chances have been overblown definitely has a better chance than those two.

 

[RileyXY1]

Heck, I don't even think Crash and Geno will be happening to be honest. Crash especially feeling people have been oversaturated his chances (Especially since this high demand only increased upon the reveal of the N. Sane Trilogy which was only three years ago, by that time the game was in development and he can't be compared since ones like Banjo, K. Rool and Ridley had been requested for nearly two decades (In K. Rool's cases a decade at most). Crash I think will, unfortunately, have to wait until Smash 6 to make his appearance.

Geno I think will return but as a premium Mii costume given the trend of returning SSB4 Mii costumes with Lloyd likely being next.

The biggest-tier character I could see at most is someone like Dante but that's it, who while I feel his chances have been overblown definitely has a better chance than those two.

Yeah. Some characters definitely had their chances overblown.

 

[SpectreJordan]

I still think we’ll be getting another “big” character. Nintendo’s brought someone big to each E3 that Ultimate’s been apart of (Steve probably being planned for the cancelled E3 2020). They planned for this Pass to go across two E3s, so I imagine they’d have have two characters of that caliber.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I still think we’ll be getting another “big” character. Nintendo’s brought someone big to each E3 that Ultimate’s been apart of (Steve probably being planned for the cancelled E3 2020). They planned for this Pass to go across two E3s, so I imagine they’d have have two characters of that caliber.

Only it'll more likely be around the levels of say like Dante or such.

 

[RileyXY1]

I still think we’ll be getting another “big” character. Nintendo’s brought someone big to each E3 that Ultimate’s been apart of (Steve probably being planned for the cancelled E3 2020). They planned for this Pass to go across two E3s, so I imagine they’d have have two characters of that caliber.

I don't really think that they need one.

 

[SharkLord]

I still think we’ll be getting another “big” character. Nintendo’s brought someone big to each E3 that Ultimate’s been apart of (Steve probably being planned for the cancelled E3 2020). They planned for this Pass to go across two E3s, so I imagine they’d have have two characters of that caliber.

Assuming we're going with three months apart and Min Min and Steve being revealed at E3 2020, I think we might only get one reveal next year, if at all. Everything before CP11 would've been revealed already.

 

[SpectreJordan]

I don't really think that they need one.

Maybe. But they clearly like doing it.

E3 2018 - The return of Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy & Street Fighter (among others, but those were the biggest question marks on returning)

E3 2019 - Dragon Quest

E3 2020 - Minecraft

If you want to go back to Smash 4 then:

E3 2013 - Mega Man
E3 2014 - Pac-Man
E3 2015 - Street Fighter

So I don’t think it’s unreasonable to say that it’s likely we get someone else on that scale.