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Yeah, but Persona is still a long running series that dates back to the PS1. I think there's a difference between adding the protagonist of the recent break out hit of a long running franchise and adding in an all new series that's still in its infancy.
It was Nintendo that selected those characters, though.Joker got in because Sakurai loves Persona.
Hero got in because Sakurai loves Dragon Quest.
Terry got in because Sakurai is in love with SNK.
Byleth got in because Sakurai loves Fire Emblem.
...ok maybe there's a lot more overlap for the first pass at least.
It's also worth keeping in mind that Minecraft's (and also Fortnite and Overwatch, for example) total sales numbers account for all versions of the game on all platforms - meaning it's impossible to tell how much overlap there is between each version (kinda like what happens with Pokémon and the people who buy both versions, thus inflating the numbers).Uuuuuuuuhhhhhh......
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Googles.
As far as total worldwide population goes it's *ing difficult as * to come up with games that approach Minecraft's playerbase (112 Million monthly).
3BitSaurus linked an estimate for LoL's playerbase - 115 million as of 2019 - but that's "give or take" area, and it's fully possible that Minecraft is (slightly) bigger.
Fortnite kinda approaches that, but the 250 million registered accounts can be a bit deceptive. The first monthly userbase number I saw was 78.3 million. Not as big as the previous two, but again, it's possible Fortnite's crept up. Still, it's difficult to say if Fortnite's bigger than Minecraft.
There are a small but notable bunch of games (mostly mobile) that are popular in the humongous countries China and India (as well as other, pretty big regions like SouthEast Asia). Tencent's mobile LoL Honor of Kings (Arena of Valor internationally) claimed a daily userbase of 100 milllion+ when China underwent the pandemic lockdown. Garena Free Fire (a mobile Fortnite, optimized specifically for it), which is huge in SEA, India and LatAm (just wondering if 3BitSaurus is familiar with this title) boasts 100 million+ daily players.
Don't think either mobile titles are frontrunners.
I know next to nothing about Apex, but every Apex player I've heard from always says that the Smash character would have to be Wraith. For whatever that is worth.
Who Exactly is Nintendo Though, is the Question...
Ehhh... It was marketed as "Super Smash Bros Ultimate x Persona 5" not just "Super Smash Bros Ultimate x Persona", and with the exception of the music tracks, a couple mii costumes on the side and one spirit (who was a reccuring character throughout the series including p5) all of the content pretty much stemmed from just Persona 5.
"Mr. Sakurai knows a lot about these big characters, how about we pick them?"
Personally, I just think it'd be weird that they'd telegraph their involvement in Smash like that with something that isn't a playable character, if they were going to get a character later on.
Now that you mention it, I wonder what happened to those Blast Corps / Jet Force Gemini spirits that were supposedly in the game's data.
And the fact that Persona itself was spun off of Shin Megami Tensei, which has been around longer.
My guess is the Spirit team wanted to add them except someone did some research and discovered they didn't have the rights to the franchise so they had to be scrapped.
I just wish Smash would continue adding characters from lesser known Nintendo IPs... as playable fighters and not as Assist Trophies or Mii costumes or spirits.
Wait... since when Wii Fit is a "lesser known" Nintendo IP?I just wish Smash would continue adding characters from lesser known Nintendo IPs... as playable fighters and not as Assist Trophies or Mii costumes or spirits.
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I don't think SMT played a factor at all. If it was involved in getting Persona into Smash, then it would have at least had a couple tracks or, bare minimum, a Jack Frost hat or spirit. The content in Smash is entirely Persona so I don't think SMT was a significant part of the conversation ... unfortunately.
Eh, I doubt it.
Proceeds to select someone from Garena Free Fire.
Yes re: both of those - it was Monster Hunter Ultimate and Devil's Third. IIRC Nexon* owns those rights to Devil's Third even if Nintendo published the Wii U version.
and Duck Hunt, the 22nd best selling game of all time (and 2nd best selling NES game overall)
It's like what DKC and Wario Ware are considered. They spun off of Mario and became their own entities.
Quote said by Cranky Kong, Feb. 30th 2015.
It's probably the simple connection of "Persona 5 is obviously related to Persona 1" which, while not really wrong, can also get rather misleading due to how ATLUS has handled the series.
Wii Fit Trainer was so unexpected because the people who play/speculate Smash don't live in nursing homes where Wii Fit is popular.
Of Course, It's Smash Speculation after all. Plus you never know what Conspiracy Theory could pan outIn other news ppl are seriously making a theory of the stopwatch picture from last night
Jokingly or unironically?In other news ppl are seriously making a theory of the stopwatch picture from last night
In other news ppl are seriously making a theory of the stopwatch picture from last night
@ValveNewsNetwor I asked Gabe Newell if he would add Gordon Freeman into #SmashBrosUltimate and he responded within seconds.
— YoyoMann (@rskyoyomann) March 12, 2019
I am happy with this answer. pic.twitter.com/02ZYwOOPge
From What I'm reading, it seems to be unironically. Of course they know it's highly tinfoil, So It's not like they are putting much stake into it
Call of Duty has several named characters that they could potentially put in Smash. But I feel that series deals with content that’s too mature for Smash. It doesn’t cover up with goofy 4th wall breaks or Sci-fi stuff like MGS either.
Lots of good points here & I generally feel the same way, predictions wise. Impa would be a good pick since she’d be a promotional pick AND a long running fan request, plus she’s just cool. But I sort of feel that if we get a Zelda character, it’ll be someone uniquely BOTW related.This is my guess, in no particular order.
I'm guessing that Steve and CP8 were intended for an E3 reveal, and if the past two E3s were any indication, it seems like they'd end it off with some long-awaited fan favourite. The two big ones that are left seem to be Geno and Isaac (not sure when Waluigi became a popular pick, but I don't think it was as early as those two), and I don't think we'll be getting assist trophy promotions in this DLC. Plus, the timing would match up for the Mario tournament was was announced for "sometime in November or December" (you'd think they could give a specific month, or even have it that weekend) and the Nintendo online open tournament that ends on November 1st. (the last time we had one, Min Min was announced the next day - that one and the upcoming one are the only online open tournaments that we've had, so I'm not sure how reliable that information is, but I wouldn't be surprised if we got an announcement within the first week of November) Smash Ultimate seems to be going out of its way to fulfill as many fan demands as possible (every veteran and most stages returning; hazardless and Battlefield versions of every stage; detailed patch notes; Ridley, K. Rool, and Banjo...), and Geno seems like he'd fit that mindset.
I don't think that the remaining Fighters Pass 2 characters are going to be entirely third party. I feel like Bandanna Dee stands a good chance, given that he's fairly popular in a variety of regions, but Zelda's 35th anniversary is next year, and with Zelda not having a new unique character in Smash for twenty years by that point, I could see them saving one for the end. Impa seems like a "safe" reveal rather than an exciting or unexpected one, but Nintendo rarely seems to end with the biggest announcements. (Brawl ending with Wolf; Smash 4's base game ending with Duck Hunt; Ultimate's base game ending with Ken/Incineroar; Fighters Pass 1 ending with Byleth...)
With Dante, I feel like it could go either way between him or Monster Hunter, but both series are pretty popular at the moment, and some comments by Hideaki Itsuno and Hideki Kamiya have me feeling optimistic about Dante.
While I think that we should get another Namco-Bandai character by this point, they seem really reluctant to bring in any of their own characters for some reason. (maybe it's because they don't want to seem biased? Though having two of the many third party character being from their company doesn't seem like it would come across that way) Meanwhile, Capcom seems to have no problem with including any of their series in Smash. (plus, it would mean that we'd get Dante vs. Bayonetta, and Kamiya regretted not being able to make that happen in Project X Zone 2)
Then there's Ryu Hayabusa, but he seems like a no-brainer. Koei-Tecmo's got a long history (they seem like the last big Japanese third party company that doesn't have a playable character in Smash), Ninja Gaiden's got history stretching back to the NES days and two wildly different styles of games, and Koei-Tecmo's close enough to Nintendo that they can work on a main Fire Emblem game and a Zelda spin-off that's the official backstory for Breath of the Wild. I'm a little surprised that he didn't make it into the base game, and I'll be confused if he's not in the DLC at all.
I'm not 100% sure about the order, though after Bayonetta, I think they'll realize that action characters will take a lot of time to balance if they're going to emulate the gameplay from their home series, so I don't think they'll save Dante or Ryu Hayabusa for the end. I do think that Geno will come out (or at least will get announced) this year if he does get added, and if we get a Zelda character, I think they won't be out until next year, due to their series' respective 35th anniversaries.
But you see, if two clocks stuck in a void were rotating their hands clockwise but with different times shown it must mean that Smash Ultimate gives Sakurai "double-time", which is (and I quote): "a rate of pay equal to double the standard rate, sometimes paid for working on holidays or outside normal working hours". Therefore, it probably means Sakurai is working overtime trying to finish all of these DLC fighters in a timely fashion. The image implies that he is being given an extra paycheck after having to implement such a weird and complex character like Steve into the game.In other news ppl are seriously making a theory of the stopwatch picture from last night
Tbh, it's incredibly difficult to find a company/studio that would say "no" to their character appearing in Smash. Outside of maybe Sony, I can't really think of anyone.
So where were the supporters when I was campaigning for Duck Hunt Dog for Smash for 12 years? I know Duck Hunt Dog wasn't topping the Smash character polls and Rate Their Chances gave him very low scores in chances and wants. There were few people who genuinely wanted Duck Hunt Dog long before the ESRB leak happened. Most people only started jumping on the Duck Hunt Dog bandwagon because of the ESRB leak.
It wasn't the usual pick for Smash.
