Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Megadoomer]

I feel like Sora AND Geno can get in this pass, but only if Square Enix doesn't see Geno as "taking up a slot" for putting in another character of theirs and is just Nintendo's character.

Sora's not a Square-Enix character, though (at least, if the copyright info at the start of every single Kingdom Hearts game is any indication), so it's not like they're in competition with each other for a hypothetical Square-Enix spot.

 

[Shroob]

So, here's a little thought.



Steve's our last character for 2020, I think we can probably agree to that, but how do you think next year's reveals will pan out, especially since it seems like they're sticking to their December 2021 deadline?


For me, assuming that the gap between characters will be about 3 months, give or take a couple extra weeks:


January/Early Feb: CP8

April: CP9

June E3: CP10 is shown off

July-August: CP10

Late November/Early December: CP11


The only one I'm a bit sus on is CP9 in April. While we have always had multiple characters shown off at E3 in the past, with the fact we barely have any left, I just don't think we're getting multiple at next E3.

 

[P.Kat]

Well I'll keep having faith in my underdog as a Capcom rep.

I think the CacoMallow leak is fake.
Stuff is way to easy to fake.

At this point that leak is like a Hydra, it just won't die no matter how much you cut it down.

 

[drag0nscythe]

Well I'll keep having faith in my underdog as a Capcom rep.

At this point that leak is like a Hydra, it just won't die no matter how much you cut it down.

Pretty sure I could make those models. Hell. I have seen others make those models. It is dead. It was dead when Ken gave a thumbs up because no leakers ever really have calling cards like that.

 

[KillerCage]

So, here's a little thought.



Steve's our last character for 2020, I think we can probably agree to that, but how do you think next year's reveals will pan out, especially since it seems like they're sticking to their December 2021 deadline?


For me, assuming that the gap between characters will be about 3 months, give or take a couple extra weeks:


January/Early Feb: CP8

April: CP9

June E3: CP10 is shown off

July-August: CP10

Late November/Early December: CP11


The only one I'm a bit sus on is CP9 in April. While we have always had multiple characters shown off at E3 in the past, with the fact we barely have any left, I just don't think we're getting multiple at next E3.

This is what I think:

Dec/Jan: CP8 Revealed

April: CP8 Released

June (E3): CP9 & CP10 Revealed

July: CP9 Released

Sep: CP10 Released

Nov: CP11 Revealed

Dec/Jan: CP11 Released

 

[cashregister9]

So, here's a little thought.



Steve's our last character for 2020, I think we can probably agree to that, but how do you think next year's reveals will pan out, especially since it seems like they're sticking to their December 2021 deadline?


For me, assuming that the gap between characters will be about 3 months, give or take a couple extra weeks:


January/Early Feb: CP8

April: CP9

June E3: CP10 is shown off

July-August: CP10

Late November/Early December: CP11


The only one I'm a bit sus on is CP9 in April. While we have always had multiple characters shown off at E3 in the past, with the fact we barely have any left, I just don't think we're getting multiple at next E3.

CP8 & CP9: E3

CP8: December-February
CP9: E3
CP10: August-September
CP11: November-December

 

[Shroob]

This is what I think:

Dec/Jan: CP8 Revealed

April: CP8 Released

June (E3): CP9 & CP10 Revealed

July: CP9 Released

Sep: CP10 Released

Nov: CP11 Revealed

Dec/Jan: CP11 Released

Man, like, I can see it happen, but that's a terrible timeline. It'll have been 7 months since Steve by that point, and as 'long' as Min Min - Steve felt, it was only 3, it felt longer due to the ARMs guessing game.

 

[Perkilator]

So, here's a little thought.



Steve's our last character for 2020, I think we can probably agree to that, but how do you think next year's reveals will pan out, especially since it seems like they're sticking to their December 2021 deadline?


For me, assuming that the gap between characters will be about 3 months, give or take a couple extra weeks:


January/Early Feb: CP8

April: CP9

June E3: CP10 is shown off

July-August: CP10

Late November/Early December: CP11


The only one I'm a bit sus on is CP9 in April. While we have always had multiple characters shown off at E3 in the past, with the fact we barely have any left, I just don't think we're getting multiple at next E3.

• CP8: January/February at the latest
• CP9: E3
• CP10: August at the latest
• CP11: October at the earliest

 

[Shroob]

CP8 & CP9: E3
CP10: August-September
CP11: November-December

I seriously doubt we're going 9 months from Steve with nothing, doubly doubt we'd get 2 characters at the same time.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

It is dead.

More like undead. It's a zombie, a rotten corpse that keeps reanimating and creeping in the door no matter how many times you shoot it.

Cacomallow is the Jason Voorhes curse of Smash speculation.

Man, I'm really in the Halloween mood.

 

[Spongeboob]

From Capcom, I want Dante the most (Zero's not happening). However, as odd is it may be, I think Phoenix Wright's gonna get the spot for "Capcom rep".

So far, none of the DLC third party Mii costumes in Smash 4 has become playable fighters for DLC yet. Could this mean that Monster Hunter, Lloyd Irving and Geno are dis-confirmed?

I think it does, although I think this idea can come off as fallacious. The ones that haven't appeared yet may be fighters, but the only characters costumed in Tr4sh to make a playable appearance in Ultimate are base roster fighters (Isabelle, Chrom, King K. Rool, and Inkling).

I think the CacoMallow leak is fake.
Stuff is way too easy to fake.

NOOOOOOOOOOOO
BUT MUH GEEEENOOOOOOO
MUH DOOOMGUY

So, here's a little thought.



Steve's our last character for 2020, I think we can probably agree to that, but how do you think next year's reveals will pan out, especially since it seems like they're sticking to their December 2021 deadline?


For me, assuming that the gap between characters will be about 3 months, give or take a couple extra weeks:


January/Early Feb: CP8

April: CP9

June E3: CP10 is shown off

July-August: CP10

Late November/Early December: CP11


The only one I'm a bit sus on is CP9 in April. While we have always had multiple characters shown off at E3 in the past, with the fact we barely have any left, I just don't think we're getting multiple at next E3.

I was thinking February or March for CP8, anywhere between May and July for CP9, and then the rest is the same as 2019.

 

[cashregister9]

I seriously doubt we're going 9 months from Steve with nothing, doubly doubt we'd get 2 characters at the same time.

I mainly put CP8 and CP9 together at E3 as a hype buffer my actual thoughts on the matter CP8 would be around December-February and then CP9 would be at E3

 

[Shroob]

More like undead. It's a zombie, a rotten corpse that keeps reanimating and creeping in the door no matter how many times you shoot it.

Cacomallow is the Jason Voorhes curse of Smash speculation.

Man, I'm really in the Halloween mood.

Every time Cacomallow is brought to the discussion table:

 

[Spongeboob]

Went on /v/ the other day, found this. Of course, it's likely fake. I just thought this would be interesting to share.

Spoiler: big

 

[Goombaic]

Went on /v/ the other day, found this. Of course, it's likely fake. I just thought this would be interesting to share.

Spoiler: big

View attachment 288396

This is useless even if it's true, which it isn't.

 

[AreJay25]

Went on /v/ the other day, found this. Of course, it's likely fake. I just thought this would be interesting to share.

Spoiler: big

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"This is all just hearsay, so choose what you believe."

I choose to believe it's a load of ****.

It doesn't even have an ARMS character on there.

 

[Shroob]

Went on /v/ the other day, found this. Of course, it's likely fake. I just thought this would be interesting to share.

Spoiler: big

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Fake but, man


I'm having a bit of a chuckle imaging the scenario:


Zelda gets a non-Triforce user!

"Holy crap is it Midna?! Skull Kid?! Impa?! One of the 4 Champions?!"


"Here's the super happy goddess gal from a spinoff, also she's your Koei Techmo rep by proxy."

 

[cashregister9]

Went on /v/ the other day, found this. Of course, it's likely fake. I just thought this would be interesting to share.

Spoiler: big

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Points for Creativity I guess... but yeah this is fake
The exclusion of ARMS and the fact that Luminary and Erdrick are seperated

To humor this leak a bit:
I doubt that a random Bamco employee would know information that only a handful of Higher ups would know about, And why would Namco have all the unnecessary information that only Nintendo Higher Ups would know. It wouldn't shock me if Leakbait would still need to follow copyright guidelines, that seems like to many companies to get rights from for leak bait. 100% fake

 

[PSIGuy]

"As you know Nintendo gave Sakurai a list"

Citation needed.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Went on /v/ the other day, found this. Of course, it's likely fake. I just thought this would be interesting to share.

Spoiler: big

View attachment 288396

Bunk

On top of what everyone else mentioned, I'd like to point out Ezio is on the list but Altaïr was the assassin chosen for the mii costume. I'm assuming he also would've taken priority over Ezio if AC got playable status.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Went on /v/ the other day, found this. Of course, it's likely fake. I just thought this would be interesting to share.

Spoiler: big

View attachment 288396

Doesn't include Min-Min or any ARMS rep, so probably not real.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Went on /v/ the other day, found this. Of course, it's likely fake. I just thought this would be interesting to share.

Spoiler: big

View attachment 288396

No Min Min?

oooohhh they were so close

 

[Mushroomguy12]

"As you know Nintendo gave Sakurai a list"

Citation needed.

That part actually is true, I believe.

 

[CureParfait]

Went on /v/ the other day, found this. Of course, it's likely fake. I just thought this would be interesting to share.

Spoiler: big

View attachment 288396

Obviously fake, it doesn't even have any Arms rep on there.

 

[TheBeastHimself]

It's funny to look back and see "Incineroar Enters the Ring!" "Min Min Arms Herself!" "Lucas Comes Out of Nowhere!"

...

"Mega Man joins the Battle!"

 

[Perkilator]

It's funny to look back and see "Incineroar Enters the Ring!" "Min Min Arms Herself!" "Lucas Comes Out of Nowhere!"

...

"Mega Man joins the Battle!"

I mean, Mega Man’s case was when Smash taglines were in their infancy.

 

[YeppersPeppers]

That part actually is true, I believe.

The direct article that EventHubs talks about actually falls more in line with how Sakurai explained Steve coming to be in the reveal:

https://sourcegaming.info/2019/09/11/sakurai-talks-more-about-smash-ultimate-dlc-development/

"First, again, the fighter lineup is basically decided by Nintendo. Naturally since they’re confident in me, they would consult me each time asking, 'Do you know whether or not you could develop this character?' If the request is unreasonable, I can potentially refuse them."

I don't think there's a list per-say, but more just Nintendo execs stopping by asking about certain characters until the selection is complete.

 

[Shroob]

Probably a huge coincidence but hmm.

 

[TheBeastHimself]

I mean, Mega Man’s case was when Smash taglines were in their infancy.

I still find it pretty funny, lol. I wonder what his tagline would be if he joined now.

 

[Perkilator]

I still find it pretty funny, lol. I wonder what his tagline would be if he joined now.

Mega Man
Rocks the House!

 

[YeppersPeppers]

I still find it pretty funny, lol. I wonder what his tagline would be if he joined now.

"Mega Man Gets Equipped!" or "Mega Man Powers Up!" are what I'd have liked to see.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Mega Man
Rocks the House!

How about Gears Up? Since his icon is a gear

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

I mean, Mega Man’s case was when Smash taglines were in their infancy.

Around that same time, we also had "Villager comes to town" and "Wii Fit Trainer weighs in"

Those feel like they had a whole lot more effort in comparison

 

[YeppersPeppers]

Around that same time, we also had "Villager comes to town" and "Wii Fit Trainer weighs in"

Those ain't too shabby in comparison

Mega Man having the generic "Joins the Battle!" is what actually leads me to believe that his trailer was the very first one finished, and the idea to have cute taglines in the localized trailers came up shortly after.

 

[Garteam]

Went on /v/ the other day, found this. Of course, it's likely fake. I just thought this would be interesting to share.

Spoiler: big

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As everyone mentioned, the lack of ARMS kinda sinks this boat unless we assume that was added as an option after the first Fighter's Pass was selected.

That being said, I do have to give some props for effectively guessing the first Fighter's Pass, even if he did have 40 guesses to do so. I honestly don't know if I would've gotten Terry if I was in his shoes, to be completely honest.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

It's funny to look back and see "Incineroar Enters the Ring!" "Min Min Arms Herself!" "Lucas Comes Out of Nowhere!"

...

"Mega Man joins the Battle!"

'Member when it was just "Newcomer: Meta Knight" and "Newcomer: Pit", etc?

 

[chocolatejr9]

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Probably a huge coincidence but hmm.

Here we go again...

 

[Shroob]

Here we go again...

What do you mean again?

We never stopped to begin with.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

On the topic of taglines, I initially assumed they were gonna retire them after 4, and they were gonna shake things up with Ultimate

But nope, they kept them for Ultimate to my delight

Guess they became way too associated with Smash to be retired haha.

 

[Shroob]

As everyone mentioned, the lack of ARMS kinda sinks this boat unless we assume that was added as an option after the first Fighter's Pass was selected.

That being said, I do have to give some props for effectively guessing the first Fighter's Pass, even if he did have 40 guesses to do so. I honestly don't know if I would've gotten Terry if I was in his shoes, to be completely honest.

....wait a sec,

Checks date


....wait, May 2019? Can someone check if this 4chan post actually even exists in the first place and isn't just inspect element?