Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Teeb147]

We're all making jokes because at this point we're just crazy for the lack of news.

Why not distract yourself with the electional debates? That's fuunn riight?

I dunno, if it's just 1 more week it doesn't seem that far. I'll maybe be saying diffrently if nothing comes by the end of next friday tho XD

 

[Dr.DonPatch64]

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And then the next week..

And the next week...

And the next week...

Phone call mr. Plankton

 

[KingofPhantoms]

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And then the next week..

And the next week...

And the next week...

I can already hear Plankton screaming.

 

[RouffWestie]

The next fighter is, "Next Week." They exist as a measure of time rather than a physical character. Their special gimmick is that they will always be slated for release next week, but this leads to them never actually being released; by extension, this mechanic makes them the highest tier character in the game since they can never actually be fought and thus are indefinitely invincible.

 

[Shroob]

So, how long until we can determine the post # for this tournament? ETA on how many hours?

 

[Dr.DonPatch64]

I still think we might get the Next Fighter in October

 

[Mushroomguy12]

I can already hear Plankton screaming.

IT'S NOT WORTH IT! IT'S JUST NOT WORTH IT!


Good bye everyone! I'll remember you all in therapy!

 

[Shroob]

I still think we might get the Next Fighter in October

Considering October is pretty much less than 36 hours from now, that's a foregone conclusion at this point.

 

[Perkilator]

Flash poll: what company will own the next character?

Hopefully Activision. And the character itself is 50 shades of orange.

 

[pupNapoleon]

Well, tbh, we have Dark Energy which is accelerating the expansion of the universe faster than the speed of light. So... hm. Makes me wonder if it happened in another region of the universe, if we would be safe?

Interesting game idea-
If you personally were a spirit in Smash, which character would you be and what would be the requirements?

 

[Dr.DonPatch64]

Considering October is pretty much less than 36 hours from now, that's a foregone conclusion at this point.

That's definitely the case so far, though again, I'm just thinking it's definitely October

 

[SNEKeater]

Why not distract yourself with the electional debates? That's fuunn riight?

I dunno, if it's just 1 more week it doesn't seem that far. I'll maybe be saying diffrently if nothing comes by the end of next friday tho XD

Well, I do not live in the US so it's not my main interest right now. I do know more or less how it's going though.

In any case, I was also joking with my previous post, just exaggerating. While I believe that the radio silence surrounding Smash is almost absurd at this point, I'm playing some games right now (Trails in the Sky Second Chapter and Hades, which recently came out and it's an amazing game that I strongly recommend) so it's not like I'm starving for game news.
But I could totally appreciate knowing what plans Nintendo has for 2021, not gonna lie, because so far the only thing I'm interested for the Switch next year is Shin Megami Tensei V.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

In other news

Thanks to all players of #JumpRopeChallenge for recording 2.5 billion total jumps! As new jumpers are joining, the free download will be available until further notice and will not be removed from Nintendo #eShop on 9/30. pic.twitter.com/P9g7dXmmZe

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) September 30, 2020

I guess Jump Rope Challenge is here to stay

It definitely won't mean much for pass 2 assuming it was planned out loooooong before this little game was even conceptualized, but it does mean jump rope rabbit is more than eligible for a pass 3/smash 6 assuming this is now technically an established IP

Wonder if we can get a spirit at the very least

 

[Strong-Arm]

its ok when nightmare/siegfried gets in in october itll all be worth it

 

[Teeb147]

That's definitely the case so far, though again, I'm just thinking it's definitely October

Boom happens tomorow all at once ;p

 

[cashregister9]

In other news

Thanks to all players of #JumpRopeChallenge for recording 2.5 billion total jumps! As new jumpers are joining, the free download will be available until further notice and will not be removed from Nintendo #eShop on 9/30. pic.twitter.com/P9g7dXmmZe

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) September 30, 2020

I guess Jump Rope Challenge is here to stay

It definitely won't mean much for pass 2 assuming it was planned out loooooong before this little game was even conceptualized, but it does mean jump rope rabbit is more than eligible for a pass 3/smash 6 assuming this is now technically an established IP

Inb4 they do this with Mario 3d All-stars

 

[Dr.DonPatch64]

Boom happens tomorow all at once ;p

I wish it happened tomorrow

 

[Perkilator]

In other news

Thanks to all players of #JumpRopeChallenge for recording 2.5 billion total jumps! As new jumpers are joining, the free download will be available until further notice and will not be removed from Nintendo #eShop on 9/30. pic.twitter.com/P9g7dXmmZe

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) September 30, 2020

I guess Jump Rope Challenge is here to stay

It definitely won't mean much for pass 2 assuming it was planned out loooooong before this little game was even conceptualized, but it does mean jump rope rabbit is more than eligible for a pass 3/smash 6 assuming this is now technically an established IP

Wonder if we can get a spirit at the very least

Never mind that, Nintendo decided to take away the limited release.

Hopefully they’ll do the same for 3D All-Stars.

 

[pupNapoleon]

It kinda has to be, considering Nintendo's marketing at the moment.


This is the first time now where we have nothing confirmed to be coming or in need of advertising in the next two weeks, the only thing they could do is shadow drop another game ala Kirby Fighter's 2.

That's not true. They could talk about Bayonetta, Ring Fit Adventure updates, New Pokemon Snap (which seems to be rarely mentioned), Metroid...

it's such a silly notion that we have no other games without an announcement from the past few weeks.

 

[Dr.DonPatch64]

Never mind that, Nintendo decided to take away the limited release.

Hopefully they’ll do the same for 3D All-Stars.

That's awesome, I question why they would remove it

 

[Deleted member]

In other news

Thanks to all players of #JumpRopeChallenge for recording 2.5 billion total jumps! As new jumpers are joining, the free download will be available until further notice and will not be removed from Nintendo #eShop on 9/30. pic.twitter.com/P9g7dXmmZe

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) September 30, 2020

I guess Jump Rope Challenge is here to stay

It definitely won't mean much for pass 2 assuming it was planned out loooooong before this little game was even conceptualized, but it does mean jump rope rabbit is more than eligible for a pass 3/smash 6 assuming this is now technically an established IP

Wonder if we can get a spirit at the very least

I already have 3D All Stars, but I hope they remove the limit so other people can play 3D All Stars.

 

[Teeb147]

Never mind that, Nintendo decided to take away the limited release.

Hopefully they’ll do the same for 3D All-Stars.

Until further notice though, so it's not guaranteed to stay. Hopefully they do do that for mario, and ideally just keep at it until the switch dies

 

[Shroob]

That's not true. They could talk about Bayonetta, Ring Fit Adventure updates, New Pokemon Snap (which seems to be rarely mentioned), Metroid...

it's such a silly notion that we have no other games without an announcement from the past few weeks.

Thing is, we don't know when either Bayo 3, Pokemon Snap or Metroid are coming. Yes, they 100% could shadow drop an announcement for those, but we don't know 'when' that'll happen. I already said "Outside of a shadow drop".


And I never said they hadn't revealed anything. I said that everything that we know of has had its time in the spotlight. We know when Crown Tundra is coming out, we got the Animal Crossing update, we got MH Rise and Hyrule Warriors news, we got Mario Collection and Mario 35 is coming out this week, everything we 'knew' that was coming is either out, or has a set release date currently and has already been marketed.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Good bye everyone! I'll remember you all in therapy!

Oh boy, holographic meatloaf again...

 

[Dr.DonPatch64]

Oh boy, holographic meatloaf again...

My Favorite, then eats it
That's an episode that everybody will remember

 

[MooMew64]

I already have 3D All Stars, but I hope they remove the limit so other people can play 3D All Stars.

Honestly, they probably won't IMO, mainly 'cause they probably plan on dropping those on NSO at some point.

Don't want people to have a one-time pay alternative to what is the only real highlight of your yearly subscription service. Especially when adding consoles like N64, GCN, and Wii give them an excuse to raise the price.

 

[Dr.DonPatch64]

My Favorite, then eats it
That's an episode that everybody will remember

but anyway, I'll see you all tomorrow

 

[pupNapoleon]

Thing is, we don't know when either Bayo 3, Pokemon Snap or Metroid are coming. Yes, they 100% could shadow drop an announcement for those, but we don't know 'when' that'll happen. I already said "Outside of a shadow drop".


And I never said they hadn't revealed anything. I said that everything that we know of has had its time in the spotlight. We know when Crown Tundra is coming out, we got the Animal Crossing update, we got MH Rise and Hyrule Warriors news, we got Mario Collection and Mario 35 is coming out this week, everything we 'knew' that was coming is either out, or has a set release date currently and has already been marketed.

A shadow drop is an announcement of an unknown entity--- which, at least of what youre saying, would also include Mario and Hyrule. Unless almost everything is qualified as a shadow drop, then I'm just referring to series'. Either majority of the announcements were shadow dropped, or most couldnt be.
All of the things I mentioned are things we know are coming- information wouldnt be a shadow drop. It would be an update.

 

[Shroob]

A shadow drop is an announcement of an unknown entity--- which, at least of what youre saying, would also include Mario and Hyrule. Unless almost everything is qualified as a shadow drop, then I'm just referring to series'. Either majority of the announcements were shadow dropped, or most couldnt be.
All of the things I mentioned are things we know are coming- information wouldnt be a shadow drop. It would be an update.

If we got Bayonetta news when no one was expecting it, or without any fanfare to tune in at a certain time for info on it, it's 100% a shadow drop. A shadow drop implies something coming with 0 heads up. Challenger Pack 7 is an update as well by your logic, but if they drop the character without a heads up, that'd 100% be a shadow drop. Hell, go back to Joker's release in April and you'll find dozens of people saying that they shadow dropped him since they didn't announce the presentation in April.

An update can be shadow dropped, it's silly to say it can't, shadow drop only implies "Did they tell us it's coming" and nothing more.



Regardless, my original statement already accounts for a completely random game to be dropped on our heads for news, that's how Kirby Fighter's 2 happened, a game no one saw coming just appeared out of the blue.

 

[pupNapoleon]

If we got Bayonetta news when no one was expecting it, or without any fanfare to tune in at a certain time for info on it, it's 100% a shadow drop. A shadow drop implies something coming with 0 heads up. Challenger Pack 7 is an update as well by your logic, but if they drop the character without a heads up, that'd 100% be a shadow drop. Hell, go back to Joker's release in April and you'll find dozens of people saying that they shadow dropped him since they didn't announce the presentation in April.

An update can be shadow dropped, it's silly to say it can't, shadow drop only implies "Did they tell us it's coming" and nothing more.



Regardless, my original statement already accounts for a completely random game to be dropped on our heads for news, that's how Kirby Fighter's 2 happened, a game no one saw coming just appeared out of the blue.

Alrighty. By that logic, almost everything we've gotten, short of Animal Crossing, the second HW update, and Crown Tundra, was a shadow drop. We certainly had no reason to know Hyrule Warriors, MH:Rise, or Mario 3D were coming. They were shadow drops, and poor examples. Almost all of our updates have been shadow drops by your definition, therefore it's even more likely another announcement could be a 'shadow drop.'

 

[Shroob]

Alrighty. By that logic, almost everything we've gotten, short of Animal Crossing, was a shadow drop. We certainly had no reason to know Hyrule Warriors, MH:Rise, or Mario 3D were coming. They were shadow drops, and poor examples. Almost all of our updates have been shadow drops by your definition, therefore it's even more likely another announcement could be a 'shadow drop.'

..... I mean, ask anyone here and they'd agree that all of those were all shadow drops.


Like, the only reason we knew Mario Direct was coming was because like 5 notable leakers were screaming at the tops of their lungs it was coming that night and a ton of news sites started reporting on it despite Nintendo giving us 0 heads up.

 

[Teeb147]

Why are people debating for what is a shadow drop?
Here's the definition for your pleasure: " Shadow Drop, also Stealth Drop, are terms used to refer to games and other media that are released the same day they are announced, or released without announcements whatsoever. "

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I mean... it could be a lot worse

There was a 5 month gap between Ryu's release and Cloud's reveal back in 4

And Joker-Hero/Banjo.

Announcement-wise of course.

 

[Shroob]

Why are people debating for what is a shadow drop?
Here's the definition for your pleasure: " Shadow Drop, also Stealth Drop, are terms used to refer to games and other media that are released the same day they are announced, or released without announcements whatsoever. "

Yeah, this is kinda silly lol.

Hell, my original point already accounts for "No new news..... aside from another shadow drop", so I have 0 idea why I'm being argued with when my point is super clear.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I don't think Shadow the Hedgehog is gonna get dropped this week, guys.

 

[pupNapoleon]

..... I mean, ask anyone here and they'd agree that all of those were all shadow drops.

The post before, you literally used all three as examples of non shadow drops.
If they were, then that means majority of our announcements the last month and change have been shadow drops, and thusly, we are statistically more likely to get more shadow drops than we are to get any other information, making Smash even less likely.

Like, the only reason we knew Mario Direct was coming was because like 5 notable leakers were screaming at the tops of their lungs it was coming that night and a ton of news sites started reporting on it despite Nintendo giving us 0 heads up.

I don't think it matters if something was leaked, as far as technicality of this conversation.

Hell, my original point already accounts for "No new news..... aside from another shadow drop", so I have 0 idea why I'm being argued with when my point is super clear.

I didn't bring up the phrase Shadow Drop. I said it is ridiculous to assume Smash 'has to be next,' which was your claim.

Ultimately, your statement initially was that 'the next announcement has to be about Smash,' a commonly stated comment, and that's just flatly not true. Hell, by the next announcement, it will be October and very possibly just a monthly partner update. If we get four more announcements and make it to November- then we know we have more Animal Crossing. Assuming Smash is next is just simply ignoring everything else we know about to some level, or know could come. There are many other options, and saying otherwise is part of the reason people get so restless 'waiting.'

 

[Shroob]

The post before, you literally used all three as examples of non shadow drops.
If they were, then that means majority of our announcements the last month and change have been shadow drops, and thusly, we are statistically more likely to get more shadow drops than we are to get any other information, making Smash even less likely.

I don't think it matters if something was leaked, as far as technicality of this conversation.

Ultimately, your statement initially was that 'the next announcement has to be about Smash,' a commonly stated comment, and that's just flatly not true. Hell, by the next announcement, it will be October and very possibly just a monthly partner update. If we get four more announcements and make it to November- then we know we have more Animal Crossing. Assuming Smash is next is just simply ignoring everything else we know about to some level, or know could come. There are many other options, and saying otherwise is part of the reason people get so restless 'waiting.'

Where here did I say that the next announcement 'has' to be Smash?


If you mean the first post, that's in regards to the "And the next week" ideology as to why it's actually okay for once to say "Next week for sure", that has nothing to do with Smash 100% being next.

 

[Teeb147]

I dont see how getting shadow drops or not affects getting smash news if they feel it's time to announce the dlc character When it's released though, that I wouldn't know. (like, they might want to time it when people are bored)

 

[pupNapoleon]

Hell, my original point already accounts for "No new news..... aside from another shadow drop", so I have 0 idea why I'm being argued with when my point is super clear.

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Where here did I say that the next announcement 'has' to be Smash?


If you mean the first post, that's in regards to the "And the next week" ideology as to why it's actually okay for once to say "Next week for sure", that has nothing to do with Smash 100% being next.

This is what you said

It kinda has to be [next week], considering Nintendo's marketing at the moment.


This is the first time now where we have nothing confirmed to be coming or in need of advertising in the next two weeks, the only thing they could do is shadow drop another game ala Kirby Fighter's 2.

I added the next week because that's what you responded to.
Someone said 'I think its next week.'
You said, 'It kinda has to be.'

This is what started our conversation. And I brought it up because you are by far not the only person I've seen say we have to get a Smash announcement next.

 

[Teeb147]

Shroob were you basically saying that since there's no perceivable announcements coming up, the slate is 'free' for there to be a smash announcement?
And then 'unless there's a shadow drop' I guess is what you're debating about.