Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Deleted member]

noticed that a bunch of pages have appeared since I logged off last night

what I expected: "Oh boy, something interesting must’ve happened last night. an announcement of some sort? a credible leak? an early announced spirit event deconfirming a big third party??"

what I got: another Geno debate

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

noticed that a bunch of pages have appeared since I logged off last night

what I expected: "Oh boy, something interesting must’ve happened last night. an announcement of some sort? a credible leak? an early announced spirit event deconfirming a big third party??"

what I got: another Geno debate

Didi: Stu, what are you doing?
Stu: Debating Geno on a message board.
Didi: Its four o'clock in the morning, why on earth are you debating Geno on a message board?
Stu: Because I've lost control of my life.

 

[Calamitas]

As expected, looks like we aren’t getting anything this week (unless the announcement is this Friday but I doubt it given the Zelda Warriors news on Saturday)
Next week sounds like a deal tho

It's Tuesday.

 

[Deleted member]

I am pretty sure no one in this thread will want to be a puppeteer.

 

[MooMew64]

Another "Steve is generic" discussion?

My thoughts are this:

Minecraft is a super cool game that I grew up with through my younger teen years. I just think having its avatars in Smash alongside a stage and some music would be cool.

In other words:

 

[Deleted member]

Someone please answer this.

Which is worse? Fire Emblem or Geno debates?

 

[Goombaic]

Whenever the thread's going into a discussion you may not like, the simple solution is to just not post and let it die out rather than making nearly a page full of posts complaining about it.

Someone please answer this.

Which is worse? Fire Emblem or Geno debates?

The posts complaining about both.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Whenever the thread's going into a discussion you may not like, the simple solution is to just not post and let it die out rather than making nearly a page full of posts complaining about it.

The posts complaining about both.

Idk man I shut my mouth about this the whole time outside of when asked why new topixlca weren't being discussed. The issue is that it's a literal ****ing cycle with the same points being used, the same arguments and counter arguments, hell, even the same people who don't post anything else. It just happens anyway to the point I'd love a Geno discussion ban

 

[SvartWolf]

ungh... i've got the feeling that ryza from atelier ryza has a good shot at the pass... quickly someone talk me down of this delusion.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Didi: Stu, what are you doing?
Stu: Debating Geno on a message board.
Didi: Its four o'clock in the morning, why on earth are you debating Geno on a message board?
Stu: Because I've lost control of my life.

Stu: Here's discussion of another character, Agelica.
Angelica: Oh that's okay Uncle Stu, they're not getting in anyway.
Stu: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

 

[Cutie Gwen]

ungh... i've got the feeling that ryza from atelier ryza has a good shot at the pass... quickly someone talk me down of this delusion.

Sakurai wouldn't allow such hypnotic thighs in Smash because Good Boys and Girls means whatever the hell I want it to be.


In all seriousness it IS kinda funny she's on stage with Link at TGS. Also found out her name's not pronounced 'Ree-za' but 'Rye-za'. Neat

 

[Goombaic]

Idk man I shut my mouth about this the whole time outside of when asked why new topixlca weren't being discussed. The issue is that it's a literal ****ing cycle with the same points being used, the same arguments and counter arguments, hell, even the same people who don't post anything else. It just happens anyway to the point I'd love a Geno discussion ban

If only Smashboards could let us mute words. I'd rather that be added than a flat out ban.

 

[chocolatejr9]

ungh... i've got the feeling that ryza from atelier ryza has a good shot at the pass... quickly someone talk me down of this delusion.

Um... Koei Tecmo also has Ninja Gaiden and Dead or Alive!

Have you been talked down? I'm not really good at this...

 

[TheShiningAbsol]

ungh... i've got the feeling that ryza from atelier ryza has a good shot at the pass... quickly someone talk me down of this delusion.

I don’t think she has a “good” shot - I feel like Hayabusa would happen first - but I would love to see it happen. For some reason, I never even considered the possibility before the “leak”, but she’s definitely one of my most wanteds at this point. And she’s not a character that’s been speculated to absolute death yet, so that’s always a plus in my book.

 

[Deleted member]

Me five years ago: "In five years from now, hopefully I will be an amazing, brilliant, and influential person!"

Me now: Argues with adults over Geno

 

[CannonStreak]

So, I have been thinking, since we are talking about Geno again, that in terms of those who played it, while Mario RPG was a great game, it certainly did not have high sales like other Mario games such as Super Mario 64, Galaxy and Odyssey, which I believe sold more than Super Mario RPG. Super Mario RPG was not even initially released in Europe. I am not even sure on Wii Console sales where it appeared, or how many people actually played the game on the SNES Classic. That said, I think some people who found out about Geno online rather than his game may not have a true connection to him. Heck! I can even say I remember people saying Geno was not too useful in the later parts of the game, or not as used. Then, of course, there are those who found out about Geno online, but still don't care about him, probably because they have not even played Mario RPG and have no connection to him at all. Connections aside, I don't think the Geno fanbase, including those who are connected to him but did not play Super Mario RPG, is that big. Not to mention, the list of evidence that was posted a page or more back for Geno possibly getting in is mostly circumstantial.

Still, we shouldn't get on the case of Geno fans for wanting Geno in Smash Bros. Ultimate. Those guys are no different as people like we are, and it does not matter what reasons are against Geno or how you guys may feel about him. Geno fans deserve to be treated as well as any other person out there. You may feel free to disagree, but that doesn't mean they should be criticized, bullied or picked on or whatever for what they believe. We are all Smash fans in the end, and I am sure some of you were picked on for wanting a certain character in a Smash game before, so you should know how they feel when they are not treated well for wanting a character like Geno in a Smash game.

 

[GillyGrime]

Seeing as this upcoming fighter would've likely been an E3 reveal had Rona not spread, my gut feeling says Crash Bandicoot

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

i legit spooked myself thinking Taiko no Tatsujin: Rhythmic Adventure Pack was coming out this month

 

[SneakyLink]

Something tells me the next fighter may not be the super hype character everyone expects.

Call it pessimism, but I think Min Min was our only E3 reveal. I know the whole "multiple characters at E3 theory" is a thing, but it was more a lucky coincidence if anything.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I am pretty sure no one in this thread will want to be a puppeteer.

As in a Geno player? 'Cuz that's false. Even Corrin gets some players.

Idk man I shut my mouth about this the whole time outside of when asked why new topixlca weren't being discussed. The issue is that it's a literal ****ing cycle with the same points being used, the same arguments and counter arguments, hell, even the same people who don't post anything else. It just happens anyway to the point I'd love a Geno discussion ban

I'd be OK with a Geno thread discussion ban, as they're off topic, always uncalled for, and nobody likes them.

I don't think discussion on Geno himself should be banned.

Me five years ago: "In five years from now, hopefully I will be an amazing, brilliant, and influential person!"

Me now: Argues with adults over Geno

shrugs

Why can't you do both?

Another "Steve is generic" discussion?

I never understood this discussion.

Steve: Comes from a series of games that have an incredibly blocky artstyle, kinda like pixel art in 3D, out of necessity and because it started out as an Indie game. This gives the games a very distinct look.
Smash Fans: "Ew, so generic!"
Me: "Wat?"

 

[Wunderwaft]

Ahh drats, no announcements today. I'll give it until tomorrow and if nothing happens after that then I'm gonna say it's GG until next week. With Amiibo theory and the 7/11 listings the wait shouldn't be that long.

 

[CapitaineCrash]

I'm pretty confident Nintendo will have something tomorrow. Not sure if Smash related, but I would keep my eyes on Nintendo Twitter tomorrow.

 

[PacificFun]

Lol no. At least Kat is a video game character.

That said, I'd be down for her and would be thrilled if she made it.

That was a hyperbole. I'm just saying she's that unlikely.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Ahh drats, no announcements today. I'll give it until tomorrow and if nothing happens after that then I'm gonna say it's GG until next week.

You think Sol's coming to Smash this week? Dunno if he will, but it'd be pretty cool.

 

[Evil Trapezium]

ungh... i've got the feeling that ryza from atelier ryza has a good shot at the pass... quickly someone talk me down of this delusion.

Ryza will never get into Smash Bros because she is a complete nobody and anyone who wants a nobody character should be ashamed of themselves...

I'm sure glad Cortez ain't a nobody from a dead series.

 

[Calamitas]

Something tells me the next fighter may not be the super hype character everyone expects.

Call it pessimism, but I think Min Min was our only E3 reveal. I know the whole "multiple characters at E3 theory" is a thing, but it was more a lucky coincidence if anything.

I'd actually hope for that, considering how little most of these "much talked about, highly requested, super hype" characters actually interest me.

 

[volbound1700]

I apologize to everyone about yesterday's SEGA discussion. I didn't mean to start a firestorm over it. I got on here to escape the divisive politics. The original post was just a pie-in-sky Nintendo version of pulling a Microsoft buying Bethesda reference.

Going back to some of the SEGA comments, SEGA had to create a lot of franchises to support their past consoles. When they left the console market, they slowed down or stopped making many of their past IPs. They likely don't have the developers and are not as eager to create diverse franchises since they no longer have to prop up a console.

I think SEGA could help Nintendo in the console development since they have past experience and were innovative in their time with the Sega Dreamcast (if any of their console team is still around).

 

[volbound1700]

Slayer and Chief becoming roommates has to be one of the craziest things I've slept in late and woken up to.

And I know the conversation has moved on from this topic, but here's my two cents on the whole "X should totally buy Y and acquire the Z franchise" thing from a few pages back: the only companies I want to see buy and be bought are Nintendo buying Konami and/or EA... not because I want Nintendo to get bigger, but because Konami and EA have failed as video game companies, and their respective IPs (Castlevania, Metal Gear, Bomberman, Silent Hill, Burnout, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Dead Space, etc.) deserve way better.

The issue with EA is that they were primarily founded on starting sports franchises and that is still their main focus. However, they have even dumbed down a lot of those franchises with the yearly release requirements. My NCAA football dynasty gets all out of whack everytime I have my dynasty reach bowl season.

If they reboot the NCAA series, i wish they would go all out with just one game and then sell the season updates every year as DLC. That would even allow you to switch between seasons/versions in the same game.

 

[Simnm]

And that's where skins and further customization within Minecraft comes into play. Nintendo even highlighted this:


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0:38 in this trailer:

The game's become one of the most modded games out there because Minecraft puts a massive emphasis on the sandbox aspect, whether single / multiplayer. It's also a major reason why Minecraft has the staying power it has - mods have been released for the game since at least 2011, to the point where CursedForge featured over 50 000 mods by February 2020. And CursedForge is not the only Minecraft mod site.

I mean nintendo also did this

The point is that it doesnt matter if customization is emphasised,steve and alex are still the default skins and therefore the ones that are the most iconic to minecraft.
Nintendo recognizes this as they put steve and alex in one of their polls

 

[Michael the Spikester]

That was a hyperbole. I'm just saying she's that unlikely.

Ah, gotcha.

 

[volbound1700]

I mean nintendo also did this
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The point is that it doesnt matter if customization is emphasised,steve and alex are still the default skins and therefore the ones that are the most iconic to minecraft.
Nintendo recognizes this as they put steve and alex in one of their polls

Interesting about Alex. We likely would get both skins if Minecraft makes it.

I see them coming as Mii Sword costumes. They fit well as Mii costumes.

 

[PeridotGX]

Every time I see Gravity Rush mentioned for Smash I misread it it as Gravity Falls and then find myself thinking: "Hmm, well I guess Dipper & Mabel could work as a duo fighter."

"Soos, what's that letter you got in your hands!"

"It's for you, Mr. Pines! It's from some guy named Sakurai who wants you to join his multidimensional fight club!"

"What's in it for me?"

"I don't know, maybe other dimension money?"

" I'm in!"

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Has Nintendo tweeted today?

 

[PacificFun]

Has Nintendo tweeted today?

They usually tweet at 9:00 am PT

 

[Lionfranky]

https://twitter.com/SEGA_OFFICIAL/status/1306793837025619968?s=20

Potential Sega acquisition by Microsoft?

Oh boy... if this bcomes true... MS will get total 3 reps in Smash. (Banjo, Sonic, Joker)

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

Has Nintendo tweeted today?

Nintendo of America posted a 9 second clip of Animal Crossing five minutes ago.

Nintendo of Japan has not posted anything since Sunday.

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

So, I have been thinking, since we are talking about Geno again, that in terms of those who played it, while Mario RPG was a great game, it certainly did not have high sales like other Mario games such as Super Mario 64, Galaxy and Odyssey

Why are we comparing a spin-off to Mario's main platformers? Shouldn't we compare it to the Mario and Luigi/Paper Mario sales?
Going off of Wikipedia, Mario RPG sold about 2.1 million copies. The only Paper Mario games to sell more than that are Super Paper Mario and Sticker Star. For Mario & Luigi, Bowser's Inside Story and Dream Team have sold more with Superstar Saga selling a similar amount. That's pretty good for Mario RPG despite it not even releasing in Europe and being at the end of SNES's lifespan.

 

[SneakyLink]

https://twitter.com/SEGA_OFFICIAL/status/1306793837025619968?s=20

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Potential Sega acquisition by Microsoft?

Oh boy... if this bcomes true... MS will get total 3 reps in Smash. (Banjo, Sonic, Joker)

4 reps. Bayonetta is owned by Sega.

Likely doesn't mean Sega is joining the Microsoft family.

 

[SharkLord]

Imagine if we get another "Sakurai pick" (akin to Joker and Terry) but its Kat from Gravity Rush.

Honestly, this could be pretty fun. I've considered checking out Gravity Rush, but, y'know, no PlayStation. I'd imagine a lot of floating and mobility, perhaps with a strong grab game because of all the gravity frickery.

 

[PeridotGX]

Weren't there rumors that Sega would be publishing the Series X in Japan? Maybe this has to do with that