Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[KillerCage]

If Travis does make it, THIS has to be part of the pack!

 

[Hadokeyblade]

Is it wrong that I want to see Travis as part of the last mii fighter bundle just to see the salt?

 

[Hinata]

Is it wrong that I want to see Travis as part of the last mii fighter bundle just to see the salt?

If you have to preface your question with "is it wrong", then you have your answer.

 

[MooMew64]

I've gone back and forth on Travis for a while now. He has all the same prerequisites Bayo had prior to her inclusio, but I always thought that the more...Adult, themes of the game may be a bigger barrier than other M-rated games. I'll admit, there was definitely bias in this as he's a pick that personally disappoints me, but using more objective speculation, I really do think he's probably in. I really don't think Nintendo would talk to Suda to get NMH content in Smash and not have it be Travis playable, especially with Suda's constant insistence that he would make it happen someday.

Time will tell, but it's definitely very suspicious comment. CP7 has gotten very interesting...

 

[Deleted member]

You know what? My gut is telling me that Travis Touchdown is FP7, and Monster Hunter is FP8.

I know this is a risky bet, but I feel like this has a better chance than most predictions.

 

[Perkilator]

I've been considering Frank West from the Dead Rising series as a fighter...but here's the thing; I've been considering him as a bonus fighter, with a pack that comes with:

-His theme from UMvC3
-A Spirit based on Chuck Greene
-A Spirit based on Nick Ramos
-A Servbot Mii Costume

 

[Deleted member]

I always thought that the more...Adult, themes of the game may be a bigger barrier than other M-rated games.

I mean Bayonetta gets naked when she attacks. They can censor that stuff.

 

[TheBeastHimself]

I think the prospect of Travis Touchdown joining Smash is awesome! I'd love to see him make the roster.

My only question is: If Travis was in Smash, couldn't Suda have just given his usual nonchalant answer of "oh he's not in, but I do support him being there!" Saying "no comment" would just make it too obvious. I'm not sure about the logistics of the interview, maybe he felt pressured, who knows, but I feel like it's not likely for someone to make it super, super obvious like that. Maybe I'm wrong, I hope I am!

 

[MooMew64]

I mean Bayonetta gets naked when she attacks. They can censor that stuff.

As I said, there was definitely bias involved in my thinking. After talking about it with Ramen Tengoku , I see now that censoring him would be pretty easy and not affect the character's representation at all.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Also, aren't Suda and Sakurai really close friends irl?

tbh it was only a matter of time before he nagged Travis in, Kojima-style

 

[Strong-Arm]

this is just a repeat of the doom interview thing lmao, yall gotta chill

 

[NessAtc.]

Well it was asked and if Travis isn't the game in some context I have no reason to believe Suda wouldn't have given his normal candid answer. Because every other instance reinforces that precedent. He was doing it as recently as last year.

I don't think sudden onset professionalism apropos of nothing is the likelier culprit here, I gotta be honest.

I think you're making quite a few presumptions over what Suda's interview stipulations are, especially given people within companies with unrevealed Smash content have been allowed to be asked about Smash, even if they're not allowed to give a straight answer. Which Suda didn't.

Reading too much into an answer is something we're probably all familiar with, but reading too much into a question might be a new one for me.

I think you're misunderstanding just how much of a legal tightrope an NDA can be when it's that heavily enforced. As I said before, a lot of companies will prevent a problematic question from being asked as a precautionary measure, particularly when there's one or more topics that they are literally unable to discuss.

And before you bring up stuff like Phil Spencer or Grant Kirkhope, it's important to note that Phil Spencer, when asked about Banjo on those two instances, gave the same answer each time. Remaining with the same opinion or stance is the best way to get out of the NDA, because by saying the same thing you said before the NDA even happened, nobody knows whether or not something changed, because it's the same answer they got before. And Grant Kirkhope had historically been skeptical about the future of Banjo, so him saying "don't count on it" was completely in character.

Suda not only allowing the question but changing his answer implies he has a lot more breathing room than either of those two.

 

[TwiceEXE]

Also, aren't Suda and Sakurai really close friends irl?

tbh it was only a matter of time before he nagged Travis in, Kojima-style

Well, we know Nintendo choose all the DLC this game. So that likely wouldn't play a role.

 

[Deleted member]

this is just a repeat of the doom interview thing lmao, yall gotta chill

No, I refuse to be chill.

You know what? My gut is telling me that Travis Touchdown is FP7, and Monster Hunter is FP8.

I know this is a risky bet, but I feel like this has a better chance than most predictions.

Does anyone want to make thoughts of my prediction?

 

[Flyboy]

this is just a repeat of the doom interview thing lmao, yall gotta chill

It's literally not though. The big difference is that Suda51 has on EVERY SINGLE OTHER OCCASION given a plain "the fans should ask for him" or "he's not in but if he was here's what I'd do" type answer. This is the ONLY time he's ever been cagey.

It doesn't mean he's a fighter, but it could mean that we finally have SOME representation coming. For longtime fans who have been supporting Travis for a decade now, this is exciting stuff.

 

[TheBeastHimself]

On the topic of whether or not Travis' source material is too adult-themed, I say, screw this "think of the children" nonsense, we wanna see Travis in Smash!

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Well, we know Nintendo choose all the DLC this game. So that likely wouldn't play a role.

Okay then... what if Suda nagged nintendo?

We know that's likely how banjo got chosen, so while I am just meming right here, it ain't too farfetched lol

 

[TheBeastHimself]

I think you're misunderstanding just how much of a legal tightrope an NDA can be when it's that heavily enforced. As I said before, a lot of companies will prevent a problematic question from being asked as a precautionary measure, particularly when there's one or more topics that they are literally unable to discuss.

And before you bring up stuff like Phil Spencer or Grant Kirkhope, it's important to note that Phil Spencer, when asked about Banjo on those two instances, gave the same answer each time. Remaining with the same opinion or stance is the best way to get out of the NDA, because by saying the same thing you said before the NDA even happened, nobody knows whether or not something changed, because it's the same answer they got before. And Grant Kirkhope had historically been skeptical about the future of Banjo, so him saying "don't count on it" was completely in character.

Suda not only allowing the question but changing his answer implies he has a lot more breathing room than either of those two.

This is part of the reason why I think it could be a bit of a stretch. Changing answers makes it way too obvious about something upcoming, I don't see why Suda wouldn't say what he did in the past if Travis were to be in.

 

[rigmac97]

I don't know if Sakurai included the Geno skin back but I am highly optimistic he will finally make it in. He gave the fans what they wanted on so many occasions with Ridley, K. Rool, and even Banjo (my poll vote). It is time.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

bro imagine the remix of DND if Travis gets in smash

 

[7NATOR]

I think you're misunderstanding just how much of a legal tightrope an NDA can be when it's that heavily enforced. As I said before, a lot of companies will prevent a problematic question from being asked as a precautionary measure, particularly when there's one or more topics that they are literally unable to discuss.

And before you bring up stuff like Phil Spencer or Grant Kirkhope, it's important to note that Phil Spencer, when asked about Banjo on those two instances, gave the same answer each time. Remaining with the same opinion or stance is the best way to get out of the NDA, because by saying the same thing you said before the NDA even happened, nobody knows whether or not something changed, because it's the same answer they got before. And Grant Kirkhope had historically been skeptical about the future of Banjo, so him saying "don't count on it" was completely in character.

Suda not only allowing the question but changing his answer implies he has a lot more breathing room than either of those two.

Actually thinking about it, If this is a case, has there ever been an Interview where Activision has been asked about Crash in Smash. Considering how much talk he's gotten in regards to Smash, well...you know...

 

[N3ON]

I think you're misunderstanding just how much of a legal tightrope an NDA can be when it's that heavily enforced. As I said before, a lot of companies will prevent a problematic question from being asked as a precautionary measure, particularly when there's one or more topics that they are literally unable to discuss.

And before you bring up stuff like Phil Spencer or Grant Kirkhope, it's important to note that Phil Spencer, when asked about Banjo on those two instances, gave the same answer each time. Remaining with the same opinion or stance is the best way to get out of the NDA, because by saying the same thing you said before the NDA even happened, nobody knows whether or not something changed, because it's the same answer they got before. And Grant Kirkhope had historically been skeptical about the future of Banjo, so him saying "don't count on it" was completely in character.

Suda not only allowing the question but changing his answer implies he has a lot more breathing room than either of those two.

So you think it's likelier that Suda changed his entire disposition for no real reason rather than being under an NDA where "no comment" was an acceptable answer?

 

[Deleted member]

On the topic of whether or not Travis' source material is too adult-themed, I say, screw this "think of the children" nonsense, we wanna see Travis in Smash!

This. , , and have easily proven the whole, "Think of the children!" logic wrong.

 

[N3ON]

Actually thinking about it, If this is a case, has there ever been an Interview where Activision has been asked about Crash in Smash. Considering how much talk he's gotten in regards to Smash, well...you know...

Please don't make "not being asked about Smash" a point in favour of a character.

Please.

 

[TheBeastHimself]

Please don't make "not being asked about Smash" a point in favour of a character.

Please.

Well I'll tell you, I asked Chris Seavor (creator of Conker) about Conker getting into Smash on Twitter, and he flat out told me no, and said I shouldn't waste my energy predicting something that will never happen!

 

[N3ON]

Well I'll tell you, I asked Chris Seavor (creator of Conker) about Conker getting into Smash on Twitter, and he flat out told me no, and said I shouldn't waste my energy predicting something that will never happen!

I think that's pretty sound advice when it comes to Conker.

 

[Deleted member]

Actually thinking about it, If this is a case, has there ever been an Interview where Activision has been asked about Crash in Smash. Considering how much talk he's gotten in regards to Smash, well...you know...

Also, aren't Suda and Sakurai really close friends irl?

That is interesting. Yes, I feel like Travis Touchdown is likely now. We were sleeping on him in the past.

 

[skylanders fan]

Please don't make "not being asked about Smash" a point in favour of a character.

Please.

Wait so your telling me since dreamworks hasn’t talked about shrek in smash isn’t a guarantee he is in smash

 

[StarBot]

Smashboards moment

 

[Shroob]

Hey


We're discussing something "New"




I see this as an absolute win.



Translator's Note: This isn't actually new, but it's better than absolutely nothing.

 

[MooMew64]

Like, I just can't see Suda settling for only Spirits or Mii costumes. With how passionate he is about getting Travis in, his close relationship with Sakurai, NMH3 really only being a thing because of Nintendo, and this interview? Travis sits super nicely in my eyes.

I'm going all in on this. I personally think giving the timing, Travis very well could be CP7, and if he isn't, definitely CP8.

 

[Polan]

I think the prospect of Travis Touchdown joining Smash is awesome! I'd love to see him make the roster.

My only question is: If Travis was in Smash, couldn't Suda have just given his usual nonchalant answer of "oh he's not in, but I do support him being there!" Saying "no comment" would just make it too obvious. I'm not sure about the logistics of the interview, maybe he felt pressured, who knows, but I feel like it's not likely for someone to make it super, super obvious like that. Maybe I'm wrong, I hope I am!

its obvious to us, but to someone not involved in speculation, its just a pr answer

 

[N3ON]

Like, I just can't see Suda settling for only Spirits or Mii costumes. With how passionate he is about getting Travis in, his close relationship with Sakurai, NMH3 really only being a thing because of Nintendo, and this interview? Travis sits super nicely in my eyes.

I'm going all in on this. I personally think giving the timing, Travis very well could be CP7, and if he isn't, definitely CP8.

I think when you're approached for Smash and you're given the option of supporting content or nothing, you settle.

As far as we know, Bethesda settled. Ubisoft settled. Koei-Tecmo settled. Arc System Works settled. Several indies settled. Numerous divisions within third-parties settled.

 

[Deleted member]

Like, I just can't see Suda settling for only Spirits or Mii costumes. With how passionate he is about getting Travis in, his close relationship with Sakurai, NMH3 really only being a thing because of Nintendo, and this interview? Travis sits super nicely in my eyes.

I'm going all in on this. I personally think giving the timing, Travis very well could be CP7, and if he isn't, definitely CP8.

My prediction is Travis Touchdown CP7 and Monster Hunter CP8.

Thoughts?

 

[DarthEnderX]

With this whole Cacomallow leak Why did people immediately go to "These 2 hats immediately confirm Geno and Doom guy" IF this was real maybe they would add a Cacodemon hat because it is one of the most iconic Enemies in video games?

Because if they were ONLY going to add a costume for Doom, it would be a Mii Gunner Doom Slayer outfit.

Cacodemon makes NO sense by itself.

I say both Dante and Monster Hunter are 50/50. Capcom reps in terms of most likely to least likely at least to me.

1. Arthur/Arthur
2. Arthur
3. Arthur
4. Morrigan Aensland

Fixed.

 

[MooMew64]

I think when you're approached for Smash and you're given the option of supporting content or nothing, you settle.

As far as we know, Bethesda settled. Ubisoft settled. Koei-Tecmo settled. Arc System Works settled. Several indies settled. Numerous divisions within third-parties settled.

Biggest difference is Nintendo's involvement with NMH3 and Sakurai's relationship with Suda. I personally don't see Nintendo reaching out to him and asking for just some Spirits or a costume when they could get another Bayonetta moment and give a project they've invested heavily in huge promotion.

As I've said before, time will tell, but I think Travis looks good IMHO. I'd personally be shocked if he wasn't playable at this point.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

So what do you guys think of Travis?

Fighter? Spirit Board/Event?

Or Mii costume?

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

So what do you guys think of Travis?

Fighter? Spirit Board/Event?

Or Mii costume?

For now, he's all of those simultaneously

Schrodinger's Travis

 

[Shroob]

For now, he's all of those simultaneouslly

Schrodinger's Travis

Pretty much.


I think it's very safe to say he's in in some capacity.



But BUGGER ALL if we know what.

 

[Polan]

suda is the type of guy that would get sakurai to make a mii fighter costume to mess with fans