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Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

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ShrimpScampi

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I'm bored, so...

Who are your top three most wanted characters?

For me: Phoenix Wright, Steve, and Terrarian.
My top 8 are in my signature, but the top three out of those are Estelle, Phoenix, and 2B.
Joker would have been on the list too (probably tied with 2B for third), but before he was announced I didn't even consider that he'd be possible, so beforehand I didn't think much about him in Smash.
 

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Here is a link to many generic anime swordsmen I made. what do you think?
He's blonde, he's male, he's medieval fantasy-styled, he's from an RPG, his hair is spiky as all hell, and he's still not on the list.

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Dark Cloud gets three characters and one of them doesn't even use a sword!

I see how it is.
 

drag0nscythe

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There's also Crash Bandicoot, Rayman, Conker, Frogger, and Klonoa.

Would cartoon-like human characters count like Arle and Shantae (I know she's half-genie but still).
Anything that gets called "Cereal box". My Generic anime swordsmen has people that never use swords on the list. because it is a stupid assumption name.
 

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Apparenty the hotgirl leaker posted this.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Supposedly an extreme closeup of the next fighter.

Not sure I buy her credibility, but let's do something productive with our saturday night.
 

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Apparenty the hotgirl leaker posted this.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Supposedly an extreme closeup of the next fighter.

Not sure I buy her credibility, but let's do something productive with our saturday night.
She has gotten multiple things wrong. I think the only reason people still listen to her for "insider information" specifically is because her handle is admittedly hilarious. To me this looks like an attention grab.
 
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drag0nscythe

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How'd you do all that? It's impressive!
Saved the website and hacked it to read JSON data from a file. Website uploads based on JSON data. So I can add anything I want now as long as assets are present.

He's blonde, he's male, he's medieval fantasy-styled, he's from an RPG, his hair is spiky as all hell, and he's still not on the list.

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Dark Cloud gets three characters and one of them doesn't even use a sword!

I see how it is.
Prepare to be assimilated.
 

Ivander

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not trying to downplay their chances but i find it hilarious how monster hunter shot up so quickly from "nah they're not in, enough content in base game, etc" to a top 5 discussed candidate
tis be the sad truth. Monster Hunter always seemed like a likely candidate from Capcom but it took a new game on the Switch for people to realize that. I guess it is true that this community only focuses on which new game is coming out.
I've always saw Monster Hunter having a good chance. Even with Rathalos in.
If Monster Hunter gets in, What would be the stage though?
I imagine either an area from MHWorld, like Elder's Recess or the stage that Rathalos is on being turned into a full-fledged stage, being Ancestral Steppes.
Honestly. Monster Hunter is in a strange spot.

We've never had a boss from a franchise without a playable character before.

Does that put them out of the running?
Don't really know. I mean, if the Monster Hunter Mii outfits were out already, I'd say probably. That said, the MH Mii outfits still haven't been released, so at this point, who knows.
 

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Some of the series icons I made for these Generic images I am making. Cereal box mascots will be coming next.

Glad Sakura Shinguji is on there! Only nitpick I have is that she uses the emblem from the recent game and not the emblem on her kimono.
What is the emblem? I can update it. I do not really know to much about the Sakura wars series.
 
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Rie Sonomura

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Apparenty the hotgirl leaker posted this.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Supposedly an extreme closeup of the next fighter.

Not sure I buy her credibility, but let's do something productive with our saturday night.
that looks like a pixellated mishmash of body parts more than an extreme closeup tbh
 

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Dante does have the advantage of Devil May Cry V being a recent and super successful game that brought the series back after no major releases since the early 2010's.

Question is, is that enough to give him the edge over Phoenix Wright (whose series has had more consistent releases throughout the years, plus has essentially been Nintendo-exclusive until the recent HD Trilogy) and Monster Hunter (consistent releases again, plus is essentially Capcom's biggest series)?
I don't really think (from a logical standpoint) it gives him any edge over Hunter, but definitely Phoenix (just due to the fact that PW has always been more of a intermediately sized series, rather than a AAA production, and it has seen no new releases in a decent amount of time).

I mean from a "advantage" standpoint, Hunter has arguably Capcom's most valuable IP currently (and it's not really close), consistent releases, and a much bigger Nintendo history compared to DMC. I mean Capcom is even making a Monster Hunter movie (sure it looks pretty bad, but it's still huge regardless). The Monster Hunter games also started to gain a lot more popularity in the West, when things like 3U, 4U, and Gen came out; and I think Nintendo even helped Capcom localize those games (much like certain DQ games). In fact, I think 3U was one of the best selling 3rd party games on the Wii U.

In comparison, Dante has had a very successful revival, but really that's it; it didn't suddenly become Capcom's most valuable IP. Assuming sales data from wikipedia is correct, DMC 5 has sold around 3.5 million copies which is certainly VERY good, but MH4U itself sold 4 million and unlike DMC 5, MH4U is a console exclusive. And while Dante did have a Switch port with exclusive features in DMC3, MH is supposedly getting a full blown Switch exclusive release revealed as early as next week (according to some very reliable insiders). And Capcom certainly is pushing MH harder than ever, with multiple internal teams working on different products. Meanwhile, there's no real rumors of a Switch exclusive DMC and it's likely that DMC will prioritize other consoles before anything related to Nintendo, on top of having slower releases compared to MH in general.

A lot of people like to say that Byleth already has the gimmick MH would have, but that's wrong. MH has a surprising amount of moveset potential, on top of being able to wield completely different weapons compared to Byleth, they could also give MH a lot of traps/items, and even multiple styles like a potential Dante.

A lot of people also bring up the fact that MH is already represented with a stage/boss/music as a big negative to Hunter's chances. But as we all know by now, I doubt Nintendo really cares if a series already has representation (if they really want a new character). Besides, that content has a decent chance of being agreed upon before MH World even came out (and exploded the series popularity even further).

I think from a "logical" perspective, Monster Hunter has the most advantages going for them for a Capcom rep currently. But that's not to undersell Dante, or even Phoenix Wright, and as we've seen plenty of times sometimes the underdog gets into Smash.

But speaking from my perspective on their chances (if we do end up getting a Capcom rep):
Monster Hunter > Dante >> Phoenix Wright >>>> Other Capcom reps
 
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Some of the series icons I made for these Generic images I am making. Cereal box mascots will be coming next.



What is the emblem? I can update it. I do not really know to much about the Sakura wars series.
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The one on her kimono.

(Also, not to sound greedy, but can I see Sakura's stock icon, please?)
 

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Apparenty the hotgirl leaker posted this.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Supposedly an extreme closeup of the next fighter.

Not sure I buy her credibility, but let's do something productive with our saturday night.
Looks like Monster Hunter with Rathalos Armor to me.
Though I still think FP7 is Geno.
 

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So from what I'm hearing, a presentation is supposedly being shadowed dropped on Monday, which makes it lose credibility in my eyes. Sakurai has never shadowdropped a presentation he's involved in. He always makes a announcement that one is coming up soon. He probably dislikes the idea of shadowdropping a newcomer reveal.
 
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Rie Sonomura

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so i was thinking

ppl have said Octoling would probably still be too similar to Inkling even if they used different weapons

but I had an idea... they'd also be higher risk, and in turn, higher reward than Inklings. Maybe they'd use more Ink but recover it faster as well. Maybe the Charger and/or Splatling can be used somehow to emphasize high risk/high reward. I'm sure Dualies would count too with their dodge roll, cause if they roll off the ledge and don't recover...

yes this kinda evokes the spirit of the Octo Expansion; hard, but rewarding
 
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AceAttorney9000

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So from what I'm hearing, a presentation is supposedly being shadowed dropped on Monday, which makes it lose credibility in my eyes. Sakurai has never shadowdropped a presentation he's involved in. He always makes a announcement that one is coming up soon. He probably dislikes the idea of shadowdropping a newcomer reveal.
I mean... considering how almost everything else has been handled since July, either a shadowdrop of Fighter 7 or an announcement just the night before wouldn't surprise me.
 
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Anyways, I am very suspicious. What render would have their mouth opened like that? I'm a bit suspicious of that half-circle in the corner.

The image looks lewd to me.
 
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