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Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion
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It was all an illusion.
Wake up, Smashboards. Wake up...
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Cutie Gwen
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Nah he was just really excited about the new game, he kept talking about the 28th, that game's release date is then
MooMew64
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On the topic of Nate...
I trust he hears about games and hears about presentations when they're imminent, but TBH I don't really put too much stock into his specifics on what Nintendo presentations actually are. He advertised August as being "busy", and, well, I wouldn't exactly say this month was bustling with Nintendo activity and announcements. Clearly he heard there was a presentation coming, and apparently there was inaccurate info mixed in, but the fact that his and Kelios' info has been spotty on specifics as of late is enough to give me pause on whatever he shares now. I don't think anyone but Nintendo themselves really has the full picture of what's going on at the moment.
Should Nate's claims be thrown out completely? Absolutely not, but his info is clearly getting false pieces mixed in right now and should be scrutinized and taken with a grain of salt when it comes down to specifics. That's just me, though.
I trust he hears about games and hears about presentations when they're imminent, but TBH I don't really put too much stock into his specifics on what Nintendo presentations actually are. He advertised August as being "busy", and, well, I wouldn't exactly say this month was bustling with Nintendo activity and announcements. Clearly he heard there was a presentation coming, and apparently there was inaccurate info mixed in, but the fact that his and Kelios' info has been spotty on specifics as of late is enough to give me pause on whatever he shares now. I don't think anyone but Nintendo themselves really has the full picture of what's going on at the moment.
Should Nate's claims be thrown out completely? Absolutely not, but his info is clearly getting false pieces mixed in right now and should be scrutinized and taken with a grain of salt when it comes down to specifics. That's just me, though.
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StarBot
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I know this a joke, but they literally annoced 7 games on that direct
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I feel I should point out that Markomaro was actually right about another Partner Showcase. He said the General would be September 9-10, but that it would be focused on 2021 titles. Just wanted to point that out, for anybody desperate for a leaker to follow.
MooMew64
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Not Nintendo games, though, so they're automatically shovelware. Everyone knows Nintendo is the only video game company that matters.
3BitSaurus
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You have it backwards, man. They were a video game company before these were even a thing, then started experimenting with taxis and hotels until eventually found their niche in Hanafuda.
We're all just waiting for the newest expansion for their latest deck right now. What's this "Smash Brothers" some people keep bringing up? This is CardBoards, right?
Animegamingnerd
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With Markomaro though it was completely reasonable to guess a partner direct in August was coming, Nintendo said there would be more throughout the year and the first one was called July edition. It doesn't take an insider to figure there was always a solid chance that one in August would happen.
GoodGrief741
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Insiders should just share information they get, connecting the dots and sharing conclusions is a good way to lose credibility if you are wrong. Like, I don't care either way, but it seems like an obvious way to watch their own backs instead of having to defend themselves after the fact.
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In terms of Smash hype, on Nintendo’s side of things it hasn’t been managed well. Not to say I’m throwing shade- Nintendo has struggled all around with keeping things going, whether that’s by the pandemic itself, or mixed with their marketing mentality of not revealing things too early.
As much as I love speculating Smash and talking about it, discussing who’s next and what we think may or may not happen, things get dreadfully dull when there isn’t any information. Sure, I’ve gotten through a sizable chunk of backlog this year and I’ve kept myself distracted. However, in terms of Smash news there seems to be somewhat of a lull.
In my humble opinion, Capcom did an amazing job with the latest Street Fighter V News. They had a livestream event with two developers, and they revealed all but one of the upcoming fighters. In addition, they included a roadmap of when each character would release. This left fans with knowing who the character is, but with the knowledge of getting more information probably sooner to release.
With the way things currently stand, I would personally prefer they get it over with. I heavily, heavily doubt Nintendo will do such a thing, because it goes directly against their mentality of not announcing things too far in advance.
But with about 15 months left, and 5 characters to go, we’re probably looking at an average of a character every 3 months. I can’t really say I’d complain, just that the buildup for Volume 1 was waaaaaaay better than Volume 2 has been so far. I would like to think September will bring us another presentation, but I don’t want to get too far ahead of myself either.
Keep the faith, I say.
As much as I love speculating Smash and talking about it, discussing who’s next and what we think may or may not happen, things get dreadfully dull when there isn’t any information. Sure, I’ve gotten through a sizable chunk of backlog this year and I’ve kept myself distracted. However, in terms of Smash news there seems to be somewhat of a lull.
In my humble opinion, Capcom did an amazing job with the latest Street Fighter V News. They had a livestream event with two developers, and they revealed all but one of the upcoming fighters. In addition, they included a roadmap of when each character would release. This left fans with knowing who the character is, but with the knowledge of getting more information probably sooner to release.
With the way things currently stand, I would personally prefer they get it over with. I heavily, heavily doubt Nintendo will do such a thing, because it goes directly against their mentality of not announcing things too far in advance.
But with about 15 months left, and 5 characters to go, we’re probably looking at an average of a character every 3 months. I can’t really say I’d complain, just that the buildup for Volume 1 was waaaaaaay better than Volume 2 has been so far. I would like to think September will bring us another presentation, but I don’t want to get too far ahead of myself either.
Keep the faith, I say.
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Icedragonadam
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So is there a Japanese version of the Partner showcase and what was exclusive for that one?
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To clarify for those who might misread that, you mean share amongst themselves, right?
Imagine if we get a Dark Souls character...and Scorbunny is the next character after that.
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GoodGrief741
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No, I mean that if you know "X game from Nintendo should get news soon" and "there's some kind of presentation on date Y", disclose that, instead of reasoning "X game is from Nintendo, has to get news soon, probably will happen on date Y, and given precedence it should be on a general Direct" and only going public with "general Direct likely for date Y".
Basically, don't become the faulty link on your chain of information.
MooMew64
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I feel odds are pretty good for a September release for FP7 given the amiibo wave and general timing. Assuming Sakurai's words still hold true and Smash development is progressing smoothly, mid-to-late September seems like an ideal release time for Fighter #7. Heck, I could see an announcement next week even if things are going really well and it winds up a middle of the month release.
However, Sakurai's comments on development were recorded all the way back in...I wanna say April was when he said Min Min's showcase was filmed? The situation with the pandemic is fluid and a lot could have potentially changed. There's no way to know for certain how things could be going. Just gotta hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst should it come.
As for Nintendo's method of announcing things...Yeah, I ain't a fan, lol. I desperately wish that they were like literally any other company and just show roadmaps to things, and then maybe have a disclaimer saying "Hey, this could change, but here's what we're hoping for!" But that ain't how they do things, unfortunately. Their motto seems to be to only show when it's 100% certain it's gonna be ready, and while there are times where I really appreciate that when we live in a world of CGI trailers with no gameplay, there are times it can create these lulls where things are incredibly boring. It's a rather unfortunate double-edged sword Nintendo carries with its hype.
Regardless, I'll still be here, vibin' 'till the next batch of news comes. Back to the backlog of Sonic games, Paper Mario, and Destiny 2!
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CapitaineCrash
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They got Moster farm 2,. It's a port of a Playstation game in the Monster rancher franchise (it's a Koie Tecmo franchise). They also have the announcement of a new Derby stallion game. It's a Japanese exclusive franchises of horse racing. It's a pretty big franchise there I think. They also have some indie games, but those are already available in the US and Europe (Takeshi and Hiroshi, A short hike and Spiritfarer).
Edit: I meant to quote Icedragonadam about his question for Japanese differences in the direct.
Edit: I meant to quote Icedragonadam about his question for Japanese differences in the direct.
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True Blue Warrior
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What would your reaction be if Chun-Li ended up being the next DLC character?
Arcane Jill
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All in all, much better than the previous partner showcase. Puyo Tetris 2 and Taiko are nice to see. Was worried these would all be "shovelware propped up by 1 big game that they could have just shadowdropped to the same effect".
Pretty sure generals are kill for 2020. CP7 will prob be announced similar to how Byleth was.
Pretty sure generals are kill for 2020. CP7 will prob be announced similar to how Byleth was.
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Interesting you brought Don-Chan up. I don't personally trust it myself, since it got stuff wrong, But I actually had someone tell me some "Inside info". One of the things was that Lloyd was staying a mii costume, but we are getting a Namco character that has Arcade sounding music. Don-Chan seems like it would fit that role...
Mikegamer0608
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Ok guys, I've been thinking that Nintendo's plans for announcements for the rest of 2020 are maybe just:
Nintendo Direct Minis - Partner Showcases (No General Directs but just dedicated to Third Party Games and No First Party Games at all)
Nintendo First Parties will all be shadowdropped for the rest of 2020 on Youtube, Twitter, etc (Ex. Paper Mario & Pikmin announcements with releases in 2 months time)
Smash Character DLC will for now on be shown off on Sakurai Presents ??? until things calm down (No Character trailers in directs)
This is pretty much how I feel is Nintendo's pattern right now and how in this August Partner Showcase they did say more Showcases are on the way.
Nintendo Direct Minis - Partner Showcases (No General Directs but just dedicated to Third Party Games and No First Party Games at all)
Nintendo First Parties will all be shadowdropped for the rest of 2020 on Youtube, Twitter, etc (Ex. Paper Mario & Pikmin announcements with releases in 2 months time)
Smash Character DLC will for now on be shown off on Sakurai Presents ??? until things calm down (No Character trailers in directs)
This is pretty much how I feel is Nintendo's pattern right now and how in this August Partner Showcase they did say more Showcases are on the way.
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Cutie Gwen
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Hell ****ing yeah I love Chunners, one of the most iconic women of gaming
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Well... there’s this I guess. Didn’t a bunch of Xenoblade Definitive Edition listings pop up before its official release date was announced?:
More retailers add placeholder listings for The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2 https://t.co/xFNVlOSsCS pic.twitter.com/4xHLqIuoiN
— GoNintendoTweet (@GoNintendoTweet) August 26, 2020
SpectreJordan
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You nailed it. It’s a really sad state of affairs. We’ve basically been running around in circles for a while now. This is made even worse by the fact that Nintendo’s damn near completely cracked down on Smash leaks. I know it spoils the surprise factor, but finding & discussing leaks was pretty fun.
At this point, I’m okay with waiting for new Switch game reveals. 2020 was obviously going to be a lite year for the Switch & that’s been made even worse by the pandemic. But Nintendo keeping Smash news so close to the chest is so confusing.
The hype train didn’t feel like it slowed down during the transition between base games & FP1. Honestly, the shocking inclusion of Joker arguably increased hype & speculation.
By this point last year, we were almost about to see the fourth character of FP1 revealed. With FP2 in the same time period, we’re begging to see the second character. With the December 2021 deadline we obviously weren’t going to get through everyone as quickly as FP1, but we absolutely should’ve seen the second character by now.
I definitely think it’s negatively effected most fans’ excitement levels. Outside of this board, I don’t see nearly as much Smash speculation discussion.
It’s just really confusing. Nintendo was bragging about FP1 sales last year, there’s no way FP2 is selling as well so you think they’d announce something to drive sales.
The only thing I can think of is that they swapped some characters around after the negative reaction to Byleth & passive reaction to Min-Min. Perhaps pushing the production of a character that would excite a larger audience ahead of whoever they had planned to be next.
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I just woke up. I’m not planning on watching this Partner Presentation thing but should I? I have zero interest in it.
SirBillyBob
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Nintendo with insiders be like:
RealLuigisWearPink
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I’m not exactly keen on getting another Street Fighter character before another Capcom franchise like Ace Attorney or Resident Evil, but Chun-Li is definitely pick number 1 if they do add more SF.
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Hype.
I thought it was neat. It's also mercifully short so I'd recommend at least giving it a watch if you have the time.
You'll probably get more out of it if you're a fan of one of two companies or if you're into a specific genre, won't say more than that as to avoid spoiling it.
Yeah, but those happened about two months before we got the release date for XCDE. Like, I quite distinctly recall there being leaks of that May 29th date as far back as January.
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In regard to regular Nintendo Directs, I think they could have them if they really wanted to. My theory is that possibly one or two games that were in development were greatly effected by the pandemic. As a result Nintendo is not sure what could happen to ANY of their games. So they're waiting until the absolute last minute to announce any game just to be safe. But many of them are being developed on schedule. They're just choosing to be quiet incase anything happens.
The reason I think this is because Nintendo has made statements that they do have more games to show for 2020. So game development for the most part must be going decently well. They're just being cautious.
The reason I think this is because Nintendo has made statements that they do have more games to show for 2020. So game development for the most part must be going decently well. They're just being cautious.
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SMAASH! Puppy
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Just skim it. You might find something interesting, you might not. Either way it took less than a minute.
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W/E happens don't panic...
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Playstation Guy 1000
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Honestly I expect more twitter announcements from their upcoming first party games than a general direct at this point.
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JeffGrubb made few things very clear:
1. He wasn't confident that this week will be a Direct, and emphasized that Friday is a very weird day to do so. He did still think something at least related will happen this week and he was right.
2. He's holding out on something happening by the middle of September.
3. He also notes the phrase "Direct equivalent".
So far, he's still on track. He's smart, he words everything very carefully.
I can wait 2-3 weeks tbh. And tomorrow maybe we'll get some cool stuff from other companies at Gamescom. But if we get nothing first party by that time, I'd actually be very concerned what's going on with Nintendo itself.
1. He wasn't confident that this week will be a Direct, and emphasized that Friday is a very weird day to do so. He did still think something at least related will happen this week and he was right.
2. He's holding out on something happening by the middle of September.
3. He also notes the phrase "Direct equivalent".
So far, he's still on track. He's smart, he words everything very carefully.
I can wait 2-3 weeks tbh. And tomorrow maybe we'll get some cool stuff from other companies at Gamescom. But if we get nothing first party by that time, I'd actually be very concerned what's going on with Nintendo itself.
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I fast forwarded through most of it but still not interested save for the Crystal Chronicles Remastered.
So he’s basically Communtity’s Jeff Winger.
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waddledeeonredyoshi
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Whatever you do, skip the Just Dance segment. Take my word for it.
Ah, yes, the perfect point in time for any noteworthy first-party announcements. Later.
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To my knowledge none, sadly...
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Nah, I totally paid attention to that part. I felt for sure that that segment was possibly hinting at, subtly, of an upcoming Just Dance Rep. Just seems right. You know? The stars are aligning for it. Plus, I’m pretty sure I saw hints in the clouds that Just Dancer is coming to Smash as F7.
SharkLord
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Well, he's not wrong.
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