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Crash has a certain appeal given being associated as the Playstation mascot and a rival to Mario but I would consider Lara Croft as certainly bigger than Crash. The Tomb Raider series has arguably sold better and she also had the benefit of being so popular that she got 3 film adaptations as well, she is also widely recognized as one of the most popular female characters in videogames.
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, which also got a Game of the Year nomination. Persona isn’t obscure and is barely even niche, especially inside of its genre.That is true, I would just see Crash as making the bigger splash and getting more individuals purchases for those guys who only buy some of the characters or buy them individually. Also Crash is on Nintendo now if that counts for anything, although probably not because
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Oh I definitely understand where you're coming from, and that is a valid point. Unfortunately there aren't a ton of female characters to draw from outside of Jill Valentine or maybe an SNK girl. I don't fault Sakurai or anyone at Nintendo for that at all, it's just a little frustrating that the options are so limited and the most likely candidates aren't even guaranteed. Don't get me wrong, I think the female roster Smash has right now is pretty damn solid, but I can't help but feel a little let down when Inkling and Isabelle are the only two female newcomers with original movesets, compared to Smash 4 which had a decent amount of female newcomers. I was hoping that the Kasumi and female Hero alts would happen to make up for that, but those never came about and the closest thing we have right now is Kazooie, which is one half of another male character. I don't want to sound like I have anything against the potential male candidates either, I just wish there were more options for viable female characters in the first place
Well I feel like this statement, not necessarily your views, is kind of missing the point of why these characters are added. People often say "well Cloud fills the JRPG niche so we don't really need another JRPG rep" or "Dr. Mario fills the Puzzle game rep so we don't need Lip" or "Greninja and Sheik fill the Ninja rep so we don't need Hayabusa" or "Banjo fills the Western rep so we don't need Doom Slayer" or even "Bayonetta fills the female 3rd party rep so we don't need another" which all of this, every bit of them, misses the point of the reason that they were added in the first place. They weren't added to fill a niche. They weren't added for some predetermined "representation" they were added because the fans wanted them. And Sakurai wanted to please those fans and make others excited for their inclusion. Male, Fenale, Dog, Bear, Robot, Mannequin, Plant, none of that REALLY matters. It's about the franchise. About the legacy of it and the fans that have watched it grow.
I like Hayabusa dont get me wrong, but I feel that one of the strenghts of Smash as a series is to cover many different types of characters throught the numerous entries it has. As much as I kinda agree that characters aren't picked to represent something, at the same time it would be really disappointing to not see a female character as they can bring some variety at least archetype-wise. Heck there is no female brawler, and many of the spirit battles felt that we were missing that archetype more than another ninja or another space marine for example.
Soulcalibur wouldn't be as odd of a choice for Smash as you might think. Sure, Tekken is a far more successful fighting game franchise than most of the games you've mentioned and its popularity overall rivals that of Street Fighter, but 1 of Soulcalibur's biggest attractions were the guest characters as it was 1 of the biggest fighting games to popularize them (I mean it's the very franchise that had Link in a crossover for the first time). Much like Dragon Quest being the godfather of RPGs and Banjo-Kazooie "returning back home" or so to speak, having a character from the very franchise that had 1 of the biggest crossovers of its time would be a perfect fit for the Fighter Pass.
"New to the series" means that third-party Mii Costumes had no chance in DLC. Like Akira, Knuckles, Rathalos and Zero who became Assist Trophies in the basic game.
The proof is the official statement "New to the series". Tales and Tekken are already therefore disconfirmed. The rest of the shared clues help to understand the reason for it, for example to determine if a motivation to reject Tekken can apply to reject SNK.
Just to clarify, the official line is:
We've had three characters new to Smash so far, definitely fulfilling that statement. I'd also say Lloyd and Heihachi would be "new" to the series considering (Heihachi as a taunt aside) they had not appeared physically in a Smash game before, merely their clothes.
If we're going in that direction, there's KOF, which was basically born as SNK's crossover fighter and came before Smash, even. Smash takes more inspiration from SNK than people give it credit for.
That's all base game though. If Heihachi and Lloyd had returned in the base game, sure, they would be deconfirmed for DLC. But they didn't. Unless Harada or another Bamco higher-up says something, or these costumes show up with other DLC characters, they aren't deconfirmed.
The presence - or past presence - of any Trophy, Sticker, Spirit, Assist Trophee, Item, Pokéball, Mii Costume, Stage, Stage element (ex: Porky), Music (ex: Tetris), Taunt or Final Smash makes a character or a series rep non-new to the series.
It's looking like Hero might indeed be released after the SSBU Grand Finals at EVO.
Only if you assume other content aside from Spirits or Assist Trophies deconfirm. But we don't have anything definitive on that.
What I assume is already 60% confirmed (3/5 newcomers). Not being "new to the series" is a very important disadvantage. This is strongly felt in the Rate Their Chances thread, although there may be other reasons.
Semantics. A character being new to the series means they've never been playable before... and since "everyone is here", that's basically anyone. Plus, in the original statement that
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posted, Joker is specifically mentioned first, not Persona or P5. Joker. So what's important is Joker as a character being new. A character that has never been playable is a character new to the series. That's it.... you do realize that Heihachi and Lloyd would also be newcomers, regardless of whether they've appeared as Mii Costumes before or not? Dismissing them because "they've already appeared", when that appearance wasn't as an original playable character - what matters the most in this context - seems very arbitrary reasoning to me.
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. But that was after his rating, so people were still in doubt about that one. If we were to rerate him today, he would probably score a little higher.
I disagree with this definition of "new to the series". In my mind it should just mean that they aren't a playable fighter, which covers anyone that isn't the 73 known characters. And nothing says that their series has to have not appeared in the game at any capacity. Besides, if we removed thousands of franchises from Mario to Goldeneye 007 speculation would be that much more boring.
Three things:
Yuri Lowell, the protagonist of Tales of Vesperia.
In a latest Xeno series entry Xenoblade Chronicles 2, KOS-MOS appears as one of the Rare Blades, an in-game anthropomorphic weapon.
That's a cameo. While both series have Xeno moniker, they are different series.
I still think as far as Super Smash Bros. is concerned she would be from the Xenogears series much like how Yoshi and Wario are from the Yoshi and WarioWare series respectively.
No need to make statements if I didn't say otherwise.
But...Your wording and context implied that you did.
Oh. I think I had Tales of Vesparia, but I wanted to play Tales of Symphonia first, but then I got stuck on a boss fight in a town you can't leave.
No, it's only how you received something else that was said. It's just your personal interpretation. Deforming a massage often happens, as for example:
But here too, no need to make statements to me if I didn't say otherwise.
You did say that, though:
You framed the RTC thing as if it the ratings people gave were because of the "new to the series" thing, which may or may not be true depending on who you ask. In other words, as if people felt the same way as you do about this and that the RTC thread thought this aspect deconfirms Heihachi. It's not "deforming a message" at all.
If we're going by B.O.Ws alone then there's Tyrant from RE 1, Mr. X, Nemesis, Hunter Alpha, Licker and tons of more iconic monsters. If we're including human characters as well then the list expands even more. A fun spirit I imagined is William Birkin, who can evolve into his monster form once you level him up. There's also Albert Wesker, who can level up from his RE 1 form into his RE 5 form.
Here's what I know:
Depending on which character gets picked:
Yeah Spyro lacks that Japan popularity they both have, right?
I mean if there's enough viable Earthbound spirits left to add to the spirit board, I don't see why not? I'm guessing the same could be said for a Rhythm Paradise character.
Crash on Nintendo has been a thing since Wrath of Cortex in the 2000s tho.Ultimate’s entire UI design was inspired by
Meanwhile Samurai Shodown, Dead or Alive, Killer Instinct, or even Soul Caliber would just feel like a bit of an odd choice over something like Tekken (which again, was also acknowledged as one of the few top fighting games by smash itself, and was the best selling fighting game until Ultimate), or even Mortal Kombat. It would certainly surprise me, to say the least.
That is true, I would just see Crash as making the bigger splash and getting more individuals purchases for those guys who only buy some of the characters or buy them individually. Also Crash is on Nintendo now if that counts for anything, although probably not because
Mach Rider?
Mach Rider is 1st party.
Lol I could list some possibilities I can think of that might be deemed relevant/important enough from EarthBound/Mother 3 to be Spirits if Porky got in.
Ya, reskin is what I meant. Probably should’ve made that a bit more clear. It’s really strange to me too, because it’s quite different from the original. I don’t see why Nintendo would completely reskin a sprite from a 1995 game just for this banner art...
I think Nintendo wants to create fake tracks, lures. Nintendo makes we wait Capcom/Bamco content (Costume theory), because Capcom/Bamco content is missing. Then Nintendo makes we wait Porky, because the Spirit is missing. But these 2 tracks are incompatible together. So there is at least 1 lure. So the 2 tracks can be falses clues.
There's no way Nintendo is leaving false tracks for the public eye.
