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Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

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MooMew64 said:
Nah, it was a decision made during basegame development and the beginning of DLC pack 1, weeeeeellll before DLC pack 2. Rex is the same as any Mii costume added during basegame planning IMO: I think he's back on the table for pack 2.
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GoodGrief741 said:
Nah, Rex's Mii Costume wasn't really sold, it was more of a bonus thing. Nobody's going to complain that they bought the Mii Costume and now Rex's playable because I really doubt anyone shelled out those 25 bucks for the Rex Mii and saw the Fighter Pass as a cool bonus. Plus, it's not like his Mii Costume will cease to exist with a playable Rex, it's pretty much the same as any basegame content really.
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Per these two. It was chosen all the way back in the base game, and weren't anything more than a bonus. By now, the costume has about as much weight as the Arcade Bunny Hat.
 
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GoodGrief741 said:
I really doubt anyone shelled out those 25 bucks for the Rex Mii and saw the Fighter Pass as a cool bonus.
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"Yay! Look at me guys, I paid 25 dollars for the Rex Mii costume. It was quite expensive but it did came with 5 characters, 5 stages, and a bunch of music. Don't care for this bonus content but 50 songs from this SNK company? Were they giving out music for free?"
 
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DanganZilla5 said:
"Yay! Look at me guys, I paid 25 dollars for the Rex Mii costume. It was quite expensive but it did came with 5 characters, 5 stages, and a bunch of music. Don't care for this bonus content but 50 songs from this SNK company? Were they giving out music for free?"
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Let's be honest, Terry's pack was just a $6 album of SNK tracks with a free fighter, stage and Spirits on the side.
 
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We don't need the female Byleth icon; just give us the edelguarde one; you know its the one everyone uses.
 
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I'll admit. I'll be kind of mad if Rex gets in. Both Rex and Spring Man were late to the party. But I'd be a little upset if one manages to make it and not the other. If Spring Man was the ARMS rep I'd be rooting for Rex. But now I'm a little bitter.
 
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Alot of people are automatically assuming they are gonna add Rex because of MinMin and what Sakurai said that he would have added someone form if he had the time

But I don't know, I have a extremely bad (or good in this cause because I hated the game) feeling that as time went on, and thought about it, he changed his mind

The exact same thing happened to Dixie Kong
 
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Me and the Indie Bois on our way to show our stuff (maybe we’ll bring Gunvolt, Shantae and Bit Trip Runner next time)
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Oh hey, 2 of my most wanteds are there to remind me they were disconfirmed!

Sakurai just had to dig up some bad times there didn't he? :4pacman:
 
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StarBot said:
Alot of people are automatically assuming they are gonna add Rex because of MinMin and what Sakurai said that he would have added someone form if he had the time

But I don't know, I have a extremely bad (or good in this cause because I hated the game) feeling that as time went on, and thought about it, he changed his mind

The exact same thing happened to Dixie Kong
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I don't know how many times Sakurai has to say "DLC characters are picked by Nintendo" for people to understand.

Yes, it's possible that Sakurai changed his mind about Rex but that has little to do with his chances as he's not the one calling the shots right now. And frankly, I'm tired of "maybe Sakurai thinks this now" arguments because they are impossible to prove or disprove, unproductive and almost always people using the him as a mouthpiece.

EDIT: Also, there's being desperate and then there is "maybe Sakurai magically decided to dislike the character I hate"
 
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osby said:
I don't know how many times Sakurai has to say "DLC characters are picked by Nintendo" for people to understand.

Yes, it's possible that Sakurai changed his mind about Rex but that has little to do with his chances as he's not the one calling the shots right now. And frankly, I'm tired of "maybe Sakurai thinks this now" arguments because they are impossible to prove or disprove, unproductive and almost always people using the him as a mouthpiece.
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There's still some openness, since that was last dlc season, plus with min min he said he picked it based on what the arms director said. Not saying that nintendo isn't calling the bigger shots, but who's got what influence is a bit nuanced i think :p
 
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I know people have been using this template to predict the rest of the DLC, but I thought it would be fun to make a wishlist version of it instead:

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Literally none of these are probably happening, but eh, it's fun to dream. :)
 
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Teeb147 said:
There's still some openness, since that was last dlc season, plus with min min he said he picked it based on what the arms director said. Not saying that nintendo isn't calling the bigger shots, but who's got what influence is a bit nuanced i think :p
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I include Yabuki in "Nintendo", as he works there unlike Sakurai and can make directorial decisions.

Don't get me wrong, I think Sakurai influenced certain characters but there's nothing that indicates his whims are effective on who will be in the FP2.
 
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osby said:
I include Yabuki in "Nintendo", as he works there unlike Sakurai and can make directorial decisions.

Don't get me wrong, I think Sakurai influenced certain characters but there's nothing that indicates his whims are effective on who will be in the FP2.
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I wouldn't include him, but ok. I don't think there's enough to say his whims won't feature :p
I also suspect that he had a hand with banjo in the last one. Who knows tho.
 
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StarBot said:
Alot of people are automatically assuming they are gonna add Rex because of MinMin and what Sakurai said that he would have added someone form if he had the time

But I don't know, I have a extremely bad (or good in this cause because I hated the game) feeling that as time went on, and thought about it, he changed his mind

The exact same thing happened to Dixie Kong
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In general there are plenty of cases where characers just missed out and weren't put in later. Timing is everything and there's no shortage of better timed characters they could be putting in.
 
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StarBot said:
Alot of people are automatically assuming they are gonna add Rex because of MinMin and what Sakurai said that he would have added someone form if he had the time

But I don't know, I have a extremely bad (or good in this cause because I hated the game) feeling that as time went on, and thought about it, he changed his mind

The exact same thing happened to Dixie Kong
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Remember when Sakurai said he thought about adding Geno in Brawl? We saw Brawl, Smash 4, Smash 4 DLC, Smash Ultimate, and Smash Ultimate DLC wave 1 happen and no Geno. That's 56 new characters (7 Echos) added instead of him. Sometimes plans change, sometimes there are obstacles. I would take absolutely nothing for granted when concerning previous statements about Smash additions.
 
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I see a lot of people bring up the "Nintendo chooses the characters" point, and while that's true, I don't see why they would allow Rex if they allowed an ARMS rep. ARMS was cool for a little while, then dropped off the map. XBC2 did pretty well, all things considered, and even got a DLC that was big enough to be it's own thing even if you didn't have the base game. I'm still pretty confident on Rex.
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Where’s reimu?
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The invitation is still being delivered. Please watch warmly as we try to wake up the shrine maiden so she can accept it.
 
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Cutie Gwen said:
Considering how long we had to wait for Hero icons, we're probably another 3 months away from Femleth.




MEANWHILE THE SANS EMOTE WAS ADDED IN LIKE 2 DAYS
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That's because there are no girls on the internet.
Heck feminism!
 
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SharkLord said:
I see a lot of people bring up the "Nintendo chooses the characters" point, and while that's true, I don't see why they would allow Rex if they allowed an ARMS rep. ARMS was cool for a little while, then dropped off the map. XBC2 did pretty well, all things considered, and even got a DLC that was big enough to be it's own thing even if you didn't have the base game. I'm still pretty confident on Rex.
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Arms has around 2.1 million sales as a new IP while XB2 has 1.7 million as a sequel. There's also plenty of Xenoblade content in Smash (a character, stage, assist trophy and music/costumes from 2 games, spirits from 3) while there isn't for ARMS (two costumes, one assist, some spirits). The big one being playable characters.

ARMS needed the push more and quite frankly deserved it more. Xenoblade might've missed out with an X character and an XB2 character but the fact it has Shulk at all is a blessing.
 
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PSIGuy said:
Arms has around 2.1 million sales as a new IP while XB2 has 1.7 million as a sequel. There's also plenty of Xenoblade content in Smash (a character, stage, assist trophy and music/costumes from 2 games, spirits from 3) while there isn't for ARMS (two costumes, one assist, some spirits). The big one being playable characters.

ARMS needed the push more and quite frankly deserved it more. Xenoblade might've missed out with an X character and an XB2 character but the fact it has Shulk at all is a blessing.
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Not to mention Rex kind of gained an extra problem, one of the core arguments is that he'd advertise XB2, a big Nintendo hit and that because ARMS was like 6 months older than XB2, it clearly means it's the same thing!


Then you remember we got a Xenoblade game 2 months ago, meaning that if promotion's a factor, XB2 is kind of outdated
 
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Icons mostly come down to Admins. Should probably ask if we should have a general Icon request thread in the User Feedback forum as that makes up a large amount of the threads there; though I can definitely see such a thread getting crazy real fast. lol

At least of the existing series in Smash, Xenoblade warrants another rep the most IMO. That said, I could equally see a rep from X or 2 being skipped over for now given the ever-changing casts of RPGs.
 
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Cutie Gwen said:
Not to mention Rex kind of gained an extra problem, one of the core arguments is that he'd advertise XB2, a big Nintendo hit and that because ARMS was like 6 months older than XB2, it clearly means it's the same thing!


Then you remember we got a Xenoblade game 2 months ago, meaning that if promotion's a factor, XB2 is kind of outdated
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But in the end nintendo decides if he’s eligible for a slot or not
 
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If you're curious, ask me privately, but it borders on sexual assault, so beware.
 
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At least of the existing series in Smash, Xenoblade warrants another rep the most IMO. That said, I could equally see a rep from X or 2 being skipped over for now given the ever-changing casts of RPGs.
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Well that would suck given that we got :ultbyleth:&:ultminmin 2 in which appeared first on the switch and Rex just gets left out. Feels unfair to me:ohwell:

oh yeah make that 3 if urshifu makes it in
 
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PLANTMAN said:
Well that would suck given that we got :ultbyleth:&:ultminmin 2 in which appeared first on the switch and Rex just gets left out. Feels unfair to me:ohwell:

oh yeah make that 3 if urshifu makes it in
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This may be tinfoil hat here, but I think that Mii Costumes are gone. It seems like too much of a coincidence that Min Min got chosen over Spring Man AND Ribbon Girl, with Spring Man being an Assist Trophy and both being Mii Costumes.
It seems as if Mii Costumes truly are consolation prizes, which was implied by Rex's reveal.
 
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