Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

My favorite is Dr. Coyle. She's really cool as a character, and has some neat abilities.

Spring Man is a cool choice too. Generally any of them will represent what matters, the ARMS. They're representing the series first and foremost, not just themselves. When a person selects the character, they'll think "ARMS". That's why all of the first characters in a game do a good job of making you think of their series. Of course they're not perfect at it. You'll have inaccuracies too. Shulk makes me think of an rpg thing, like his home franchise. Hero makes me think spells and swords. Albeit, some won't directly represent the gameplay too. Mario really doesn't show off much besides a few animations, but he's still able to get around enemies, do his super jump punch, spin, etc. There is something there. Link is all about tons of weapons/items. That's his core gameplay.

 

[Aetheri]

Inb4 all 6 new fighters are from Arms.

Spring Man
Ribbon Girl
Min Min
Ninjara
Twintelle
Max Brass

There's your Fighters Pass 2, folks!

 

[MooMew64]

Inb4 all 6 new fighters are from Arms.

Spring Man
Ribbon Girl
Min Min
Ninjara
Twintelle
Max Brass

There's your Fighters Pass 2, folks!

It's ok it has Min Min it's good

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Inb4 all 6 new fighters are from Arms.

Spring Man
Ribbon Girl
Min Min
Ninjara
Twintelle
Max Brass

There's your Fighters Pass 2, folks!

Well that is one way to surprise all the people hoping for characters like 2B and Crash Bandicoot.

 

[Cosmic77]

There's not much lost by choosing one ARMS character over the other.

I know this has been said countless times over the past two months, but the moveset will likely focus on the different kinds of equipable arms, not the special abilities. If the character you wanted doesn't get in, you lose one, maybe two attacks/skills tops.

 

[Thermithral]

TBH I feel uneasy if that goes through - regardless of whether 2K, Activision-Blizzard or EA winds up buying the WB studio. Part of it is: I'm not exactly sure which of those those three would be best (or least bad depending on perspective). Because all three have recent history of planting ridicolously high microtransaction costs on games (and mostly getting away with it).

If this transaction does go through and it turns out MK actually is a FP2 franchise (small chance I know, but for the sake of it)... ooh boy Sakurai's head would spin.

While I am still pissed off at Activision Blizzard for the utter failure of storytelling the last WoW patch and their upcoming expansion appears to be, I would not lose as much sleep at them gaining access to Scribblenauts as EA. I can see the EA version now...

You don't type words. You earn words through a surprise Dictionary Box! After you get it you can go to the optional Thesaurus page for a small fee, to unlock similar words. Don't forget the season pass, Library Card, which is the only way to get access to the special promotional vocabulary.

At least with Activision Blizzard, Scribblenauts might have a small Warcraft or Starcraft themed map.

 

[PK-remling Fire]

This might be an unpopular opinion, but I honestly think that Ribbon Girl is the most likely candidate for the ARMS rep at this point. She is basically a mascot on her own (she's on the boxart for crying out loud), has a better following than Spring Man, and her double jump fits into smash bros really well. Plus her default weapons are pretty basic, but at the same time cover the bases of arms combat pretty well. They'd be good fits for smash if they came up with some sort of arm switch mechanic.

Plus I could totally picture a reveal trailer where springman initially gets the letter, but ribbon girl punches him like in the boxart and claims it.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Sometimes its depressing liking Spring Man as a character and seeing people **** on him all the time.

Dude's a dork. I think he's great.

 

[Cosmic77]

Sometimes its depressing liking Spring Man as a character and seeing people **** on him all the time.

Dude's a dork. I think he's great.

A lot of people forget that Spring Man does have his fans who like him for reasons aside from being a mascot.

I like him because he sort of feels like a less serious, more fun version of Little Mac. Basically, a young enthusiastic boxer who loves the sport.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I know this has been said countless times over the past two months, but the moveset will likely focus on the different kinds of equipable arms, not the special abilities.

Depends on who it is. Certain characters' abilities would be decently invisible, but things like Min Min's dragon ARM (the ability, not the glove) and Lola Pop's shield shinannigans would definitely share the spotlight with the ARMS within the character's playstyle, which is not ideal for the first rep in my opinion.

 

[chocolatejr9]

I know this is just a rumor, but what notable franchises does WB's gaming division own? I've heard the possible interests of EA and Activision, but I just want to make sure what it is we're dealing with. Heck, I don't even know WHY they'd need to sell.

Heh, imagine if Nintendo bought it...

 

[Koopaul]

Yeah, there are fighters that are greatly tied to their unique abilities. But someone like Spring Man doesn't have abilities that distract from his ARMS. They're more complimentary.

This might be an unpopular opinion, but I honestly think that Ribbon Girl is the most likely candidate for the ARMS rep at this point. She is basically a mascot on her own (she's on the boxart for crying out loud), has a better following than Spring Man, and her double jump fits into smash bros really well. Plus her default weapons are pretty basic, but at the same time cover the bases of arms combat pretty well. They'd be good fits for smash if they came up with some sort of arm switch mechanic.

Plus I could totally picture a reveal trailer where springman initially gets the letter, but ribbon girl punches him like in the boxart and claims it.

Yeah I was saying that too. That if Ribbon Girl gets in they might imitate the boxart in the trailer.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

This might be an unpopular opinion, but I honestly think that Ribbon Girl is the most likely candidate for the ARMS rep at this point. She is basically a mascot on her own (she's on the boxart for crying out loud), has a better following than Spring Man, and her double jump fits into smash bros really well. Plus her default weapons are pretty basic, but at the same time cover the bases of arms combat pretty well. They'd be good fits for smash if they came up with some sort of arm switch mechanic.

Plus I could totally picture a reveal trailer where springman initially gets the letter, but ribbon girl punches him like in the boxart and claims it.

In my opinion, they'd more likely be added together, as a two halves of the same whole type deal like with Simon and Richter.

I know this is just a rumor, but what notable franchises does WB's gaming division own?

Oh you know. A little thing called Mortal Kombat. The link also showed Scribblenauts. Dunno if that was an add or not, but they've got some notable titles beyond Mortal Kombat. I don't think any of them are likely Smash candidates though.

 

[chocolatejr9]

In my opinion, they'd more likely be added together, as a two halves of the same whole type deal like with Simon and Richter.


Oh you know. A little thing called Mortal Kombat. The link also showed Scribblenauts. Dunno if that was an add or not, but they've got some notable titles beyond Mortal Kombat. I don't think any of them are likely Smash candidates though.

Okay, now I want Nintendo to buy them. Imagine how people would react when they realise NINTENDO owns MORTAL KOMBAT.

Plus, if anyone could address the Japanese issue, it's a Japanese company.

 

[Flik]

Plus I could totally picture a reveal trailer where springman initially gets the letter, but ribbon girl punches him like in the boxart and claims it.

So, Spring Man gets Chrom'd? I wouldn't wish that even for my worst enemy.

 

[zeldasmash]

This might be an unpopular opinion, but I honestly think that Ribbon Girl is the most likely candidate for the ARMS rep at this point. She is basically a mascot on her own (she's on the boxart for crying out loud), has a better following than Spring Man, and her double jump fits into smash bros really well. Plus her default weapons are pretty basic, but at the same time cover the bases of arms combat pretty well. They'd be good fits for smash if they came up with some sort of arm switch mechanic.

Plus I could totally picture a reveal trailer where springman initially gets the letter, but ribbon girl punches him like in the boxart and claims it.

Gets Smash 4 Chrom flashbacks

With a trailer like that, Spring Man will be alongside Waluigi in the pantheon of Smash mockery. Spring Man is a fun character and he doesn’t deserve that. XD

 

[PeridotGX]

How would you all react if Cinderace is a DLC character in Fighters Pass 2?

Finally, a fire type that isn't bad and overrated!

Now I know people don't really consider Mortal Kombat to be the most likely Franchise to get a Playable character...or even representation. but I still think this is important, at least for the future of Smash

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/06/12...etch-4-billion.html?__twitter_impression=true

I don't trust any of those companies. Give Scribblenauts to Nintendo, mostly so Maxwell can get in Smash.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Finally, a fire type that isn't bad and overrated!

I wouldn't exactly call Charizard bad or Incineroar overrated...

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Gets Smash 4 Chrom flashbacks

With a trailer like that, Spring Man will be alongside Waluigi in the pantheon of Smash mockery. Spring Man is a fun character and he doesn’t deserve that. XD

Honestly, Waluigi being a loser is a part of his characterization. It made sense in that context. That's why he got knocked out by another character. It wasn't meant to draw ire from the fans.

Chrom's sucked, all things considered, but he was shown off in Robin's Final Smash too, in the trailer, if I remember right. Which means that they had to note he existed instead of randomly showing him in. He was treated poorly, obviously, but it was buildup to show he still matters despite not being chosen. It was meant to give the fans something to look at. I won't deny it didn't work as intended. I see it more as meant to be humor, though. Even Viridi's snark is intended as humor when she outright describes Chrom in the guidance. They feel kind of like meta jokes at this point "I'll get my chance another day" since he was discarded, and "He has Aether just like Ike"(I forget the exact wording) because he was a cross between Ike and Marth's moveset which is why he didn't get in.

They're meant to be humorous in the end. They clearly did not go well with fans. But you won't really know how some things go till you give it a try.

 

[AceAttorney9000]

Plus I could totally picture a reveal trailer where springman initially gets the letter, but ribbon girl punches him like in the boxart and claims it.

So, Spring Man gets Chrom'd? I wouldn't wish that even for my worst enemy.

Gets Smash 4 Chrom flashbacks

With a trailer like that, Spring Man will be alongside Waluigi in the pantheon of Smash mockery. Spring Man is a fun character and he doesn’t deserve that. XD

Plot-twist: Ribbon Girl punches out Spring Man and steals his invitation... only for Spring Man to punch back and steal it back, and then the trailer just devolves into a big fight over who gets the invitation.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Plot-twist: Ribbon Girl punches out Spring Man and steals his invitation... only for Spring Man to punch back and steal it back, and then the trailer just devolves into a big fight over who gets the invitation.

Double plot twist: as the two are fighting, the invitation falls to the wayside. Min Min nabs it and runs

 

[skylanders fan]

Double plot twist: as the two are fighting, the invitation falls to the wayside. Min Min nabs it and runs

Only for helix to sneak behind her and grab it

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

I’m only a fan of Spring Man as much as I am is because of how basic he looks compared to the others, besides Ribbon Girl who I feel is my second favorite. I dunno, I feel like a lot of the others are just TOO over the top for me with only a few exceptions.

Don’t get me wrong. I think all the character designs are top notch but, personally, I think some like Helix and Lola Pop off the top of my head are just too much.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Plus I could totally picture a reveal trailer where springman initially gets the letter, but ribbon girl punches him like in the boxart and claims it.

Plot-twist: Ribbon Girl punches out Spring Man and steals his invitation... only for Spring Man to punch back and steal it back, and then the trailer just devolves into a big fight over who gets the invitation.

Double plot twist: as the two are fighting, the invitation falls to the wayside. Min Min nabs it and runs

Only for helix to sneak behind her and grab it

This is basically a more chaotic version of Terry's trailer. lol

 

[Michael the Spikester]

This might be an unpopular opinion, but I honestly think that Ribbon Girl is the most likely candidate for the ARMS rep at this point. She is basically a mascot on her own (she's on the boxart for crying out loud), has a better following than Spring Man, and her double jump fits into smash bros really well. Plus her default weapons are pretty basic, but at the same time cover the bases of arms combat pretty well. They'd be good fits for smash if they came up with some sort of arm switch mechanic.

Plus I could totally picture a reveal trailer where springman initially gets the letter, but ribbon girl punches him like in the boxart and claims it.

That's a very Sakurai thing to do anyways with the whole/trailers and well as

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

I’m only a fan of Spring Man as much as I am is because of how basic he looks compared to the others, besides Ribbon Girl who I feel is my second favorite. I dunno, I feel like a lot of the others are just TOO over the top for me with only a few exceptions.

Don’t get me wrong. I think all the character designs are top notch but, personally, I think some like Helix and Lola Pop off the top of my head are just too much.

What about the champ?

 

[Goombaic]

I think some like Helix and Lola Pop off the top of my head are just too much.

Really? I guess personality wise maybe he's a bit ridiculous, but Helix is the simplest design in ARMS, he's just a blob that can change shape. Lola Pop isn't that ridiculous to me, either.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Really? I guess personality wise maybe he's a bit ridiculous, but Helix is the simplest design in ARMS, he's just a blob that can change shape. Lola Pop isn't that ridiculous to me, either.

Take the lips out and I’d probably like him a good bit more but the lips just look so out of place and really ruins the rest of the design for me. Someone did that as an experiment and he looks so much better without the weird lips.

 

[Animegamingnerd]

Now I know people don't really consider Mortal Kombat to be the most likely Franchise to get a Playable character...or even representation. but I still think this is important, at least for the future of Smash

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/06/12...etch-4-billion.html?__twitter_impression=true

I doubt this means anything for Smash since I don't see any WB interactive characters joining, but what this means for the industry as a whole is far more interesting especially since they were going to announce that Harry Potter RPG, Rocksteady's new project, and a new Batman game at their own E3 conference before E3 was cancelled and they have still yet to reveal any of those 3 games and if WB Interactive gets sold off both Batman and Harry Potter might get cancelled if their owners aren't able to obtain the license to finish those games (possibly Rocksteady's as well if its another game base off of a DC character)

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

it pains me to say this but juat because the character might be an AT or spirit like Springman or the others doesnt mean **** for spirits like Geno and the others

 

[Trevenant]

it pains me to say this but juat because the character might be Springman doesnt mean **** for spirits like Geno and the others

But like what has been stated many times previously, why should spirits deconfirm in the first place?

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

But like what has been stated many times previously, why should spirits deconfirm in the first place?

I personaly think they do because all fighters get a fighters spirit and, from what I know, they arent added in as normal spirits before hand

but thats just what I think and I still think just because one Spirit or AT was promoted, doesnt mean "Oh, I guess -insert spirit/AT here- is likely now"

 

[SneakyLink]

But like what has been stated many times previously, why should spirits deconfirm in the first place?

What I believe Professor Pumpkaboo means is even if the ARMS rep is a upgrade it doesn't mean we are guaranteed a second upgrade, regardless of if the upgrade is a AT, Mii Costume, or Spirit

 

[Trevenant]

I personaly think they do because all fighters get a fighters spirit and, from what I know, they arent added in as normal spirits before hand

but thats just what I think and I still think just because one Spirit or AT was promoted, doesnt mean "Oh, I guess -insert spirit/AT here- is likely now"

What I believe Professor Pumpkaboo means is even if the ARMS rep is a upgrade it doesn't mean we are guaranteed a second upgrade, regardless of if the upgrade is a AT, Mii Costume, or Spirit

Oh that clears it up. I think it mainly just makes it plausible to discuss characters who are spirits without someone coming in saying Spirits deconfirm. It also means Nintendo is at least open to the idea but they'd have to be pretty stupid to view spirits as difficult to remove hurdles

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

it pains me to say this but juat because the character might be an AT or spirit like Springman or the others doesnt mean **** for spirits like Geno and the others

Maybe not for Geno but for a character as popular as Waluigi? And perhaps Isaac? Ooo baby.

 

[Dinoman96]

At the very least, you wouldn't be able to simply say "so and so can't be playable because they're a spirit or assist trophy" and call it a day.

 

[SnowClaws]

I am perfectly fine with any ARMS character(s) joining Smash, as along as they brought along some ARMS core mechanics with them like their Abilities, Attributes, Dash, Charge, Guard/Insta-counter, and Rush. Basically, I want a more complex ARMS fighter that could pull off the ARMS mechanic from their game, and on top of that, they can do a Rush super move like Little Mac's KO Uppercut or Terry's Buster Wolf/Power Geyser. I certain that ARMS final smash is going to be unique, different, and/or similar to Terry's final smash.

If the character choice is Spring Man, then I got some ideas based on how he works as a fighter because of the assist trophy version and CPU Spirit Mii Brawler w/the Spring Man outfit. The assist trophy version looks to be how his neutral move works while the Mii Brawler's moveset could be a clue for his special move. Mii Brawler's special move for his outfit, Flashing Mach Punch, Suplex, Thrust Uppercut, and Counter Throw.

If the character choice is Min Min, then I hope this is her up special.

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[ZelDan]

Really, when most people talk about how SpringMan could break fan rules, I'm sure most people aren't saying or thinking "OMG IF SPRINGMAN GETS IN SO AND SO WILL BE AN ABSOLUTELY 100% GUARANTEED LOCK WOOOO!" Instead, They are likely just happy to know that a character they like that got sent to snowglobe hell actually has a chance again, even if perhaps small, and that people can't just shoot down a wanted character by saying "lolno already AT get over it!"

EDIT: Also I'm someone that is happy ARMS is getting a playable character regardless if certain rules get broken or not and I like SPringman about as much as I do the rest of the game's cast.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

At the very least, you wouldn't be able to simply say "so and so can't be playable because they're a spirit or assist trophy" and call it a day.

If this "rule" gets broken, my hopes for Tetra will become much higher.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

ARMS is cancelled Ramlethal Valentine for FP6 let's go