Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Michael the Spikester]

"Too many Fire Starters" would probably become the new "Too many Swordsmen/Too many Fire Emblem characters" if the Gen 8 Pokemon is Cinderace which I think it will be given the anime asandshown.

 

[Perkilator]

"Too many Fire Starters" would probably become the new "Too many Swordsmen/Too many Fire Emblem characters" if the Gen 8 Pokemon is Cinderace which I think it will be given the anime asandshown.

Plus, are literally the only two Fire-types on the whole roster. I don't think people considered that.

 

[StarBot]

Reggie acknowledged the Waluigi Demand back in June and put a word to Sakurai. keep in mind that Reggie retired going into the next year,

Reggie also said that there would be no Friend Codes in the Nintendo Switch online

Smash and Nintendo fans gotta understand that Reggie is a businessman, he says things that will make you guys happy

People keep saying this one point, when reality, he probably forgotten the second he said that

 

[YoshiandToad]

How would you all react if Cinderace is a DLC character in Fighters Pass 2?

Unpopular opinion here but if we HAVE to have a Sword and Shield Pokémon, Cinderace makes a lot of sense at least from the anime point of view.

I also prefer it's design to Incineroar, Greninja and even Lucario so I'm actually okay with a projectile kicking speedster rabbit. Would still prefer Obstagoon tbh but Cinderace makes more sense.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Plus, are literally the only two Fire-types on the whole roster. I don't think people considered that.

Exactly compared to Fire Emblem which has eight characters.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Keep in mind the claim is still Sabi's, not Vergeben's. Sabi is a known liar, but it doesn't mean he can't have real information, as he's properly leaked stuff.

Best to not tie it to Vergeben whether it's wrong or not, since he's not directly making the claim. Nor has confirmed he's involved.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

So what'd I miss in here?

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Broke: Hating Cinderace because it's the 3rd fire type starter Pokémon.
Woke: Hating Cinderace because there were a lot more interesting options.
Bespoke: Hating Cinderace because it's looks like a generic anime protagonist.

 

[Megadoomer]

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I'd be okay with it! The Scorbunny line is my favorite.

Here's my top ten; I'm assuming that we won't get assist trophy promotions through DLC.

By sheer coincidence, half of the characters in my top ten have white (or light-grey) hair.

I was tempted to use this image for Bandanna Waddle Dee, because it looked hilarious:

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...but I could only find it in JPG form, and it seemed like the pizza cutter would be cut off.

 

[osby]

Bespoke: Hating Cinderace because it's looks like a generic anime protagonist.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone actually says this unironically because apparently everything this fandom dislikes is anime.

 

[SNEKeater]

I really wish someone asks Sakurai why they passed on RE one day. It’s such a historic game series with a lot of potential for a fun moveset.

It’s the highest selling Japanese franchise without a playable character. Only Japanese series that are higher are Mario, Pokemon, Final Fantasy, Sonic & Zelda. A goal Sakurai’s stated in the past is that he wants to show the world how great Japanese games are, so it’s so weird to me that he’d pass up on adding a character to such a huge/important series.

I’ll be delusional & just hope Sakurai is a Claire/RE2 fanboy & the RE spirits were just to throw us off the scent. <_____<

Yeah. I really think Resident Evil is a worthy addition for a playable character. I guess Sakurai didn't come up with a moveset, if he and Capcom ever discussed the possibility.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

I wouldn't be surprised if someone actually says this unironically because apparently everything this fandom dislikes is anime.

If hates anime, surely they must have a point?

 

[osby]

Yeah. I really think Resident Evil is a worthy addition for a playable character. I guess Sakurai didn't come up with a moveset, if he and Capcom ever discussed the possibility.

I mean, Sakurai doesn't decide which characters get in as DLC, Nintendo does.

 

[Cosmic77]

Regarding Cinderace and the anime, I would like to point out that neither Sobble or Grookey have made their debut in the show yet. Part of the reason why the Scorbunny line has stood out so much is because...well, it's the only one that's done anything so far. Sobble will be making its debut in a few episodes, so we'll have to keep an eye out for it and see how much screentime they give it.

I'd give the anime a little more time before chalking up Cinderace as the most likely starter.

 

[Jocario Zero]

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HOW?! How are they still going TODAY of all days??

Oh man... please, reveal Elma today that would be an amazing birthday gift jfkenfkenfneksmhfjekgjjrkek

Fixed that for you.

And happy birthday btw

 

[RawstyleEevee]

Yeah. I really think Resident Evil is a worthy addition for a playable character. I guess Sakurai didn't come up with a moveset, if he and Capcom ever discussed the possibility.

ESRB could have been a problem to, considering alot of the RE monsters are not for good boys and girls (only the Hunter looks imo like something from Metroid)

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Fixed that for you.

And happy birthday btw

why not both?
And thanks~

 

[StarBot]

But why would they avoid a character just because they are a PNG?

Because there are many more characters that they use the money to development, instead of going back and trying to make "some PNG"

(Spirits are fully programmed battles, they are much more then that)

For a small portion of people

 

[Arcanir]

How would you all react if Cinderace is a DLC character in Fighters Pass 2?

If it's fun to play then I'd probably be fine. Incineroar shown that just because a Pokémon shares the same typing doesn't mean it'll play the exact same as its predecessor and it was fun to boot, and to Cinderace's credit it does bring some new things to the table as its style of fighting (soccer themed projectile fighting) is not really shared with any other fighter, so it would likely stand out. That said, I would prefer most other Gen 8 Pokemon over it as what the other Pokemon bring to the table (ex. Toxtricity and its Rock n' Roll theming) would be more interesting to me, so I wouldn't be the most excited for it.

 

[Sari]

As someone who doesn't really care about Pokemon anymore, I'd be alright with Cinderace. Cool design plus I get Blaziken vibes with it being a fire type kick-based fighter. Wouldn't be mad at all if they got in.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

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I'd be okay with it! The Scorbunny line is my favorite.

Did mine too.

 

[Trevenant]

Because there are many more characters that they use the money to development, instead of going back and trying to make "some PNG"

(Spirits are fully programmed battles, they are much more then that)

For a small portion of people

I don't really get what you are trying to say. If you mean it's because they have battles as well then I don't see why they would turn down a character based on that. I understand other characters could get in more money that's a valid point that's if I am not misinterpreting.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Hey uh

just out of curiosity anyone remember what time (EST) that Hero and Banjo were revealed last E3? 12 noon?

 

[SneakyLink]

Hey uh

just out of curiosity anyone remember what time (EST) that Hero and Banjo were revealed last E3? 12 noon?

Hero was the first thing Nintendo announced at E3 (Noon est)

Banjo was second to last almost 40 minutes after.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

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I'd be okay with it! The Scorbunny line is my favorite.

Not at a computer atm so can’t edit but lemme list my top 10:
Min Min, Elma, Neku, KOS-MOS, Octoling, Black Shadow, Bandana Dee, Mecha-Fiora, Crash, Shantae

 

[Deleted member]

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[Michael the Spikester]

Well can't figure it out so.

In no particular order.

2B, Amaterasu, Black Shadow, Crash Bandicoot, Elma, Master Chief (Replaces Doom Slayer now that he's deconfirmed), Medusa, Nightmare, Phoenix Wright, Sylux

Honorable Mentions: Leon Powalski, Minmin, Ryu Hayabusa, Scorpion

 

[Heoj]

Regarding Cinderace and the anime, I would like to point out that neither Sobble or Grookey have made their debut in the show yet. Part of the reason why the Scorbunny line has stood out so much is because...well, it's the only one that's done anything so far. Sobble will be making its debut in a few episodes, so we'll have to keep an eye out for it and see how much screentime they give it.

I'd give the anime a little more time before chalking up Cinderace as the most likely starter.

I mean if we are using the anime to guess the potential gen 8 mon it might still be a bit too early as i think its fairly possible for ash to catch a grookey

edit: wait, i just realized you were also suggesting that the anime still might change things, then yeh i agree with what you said

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I wouldn't be surprised if someone actually says this unironically because apparently everything this fandom dislikes is anime.

I was half joking with this statement. I'm not gonna hate Cinderace or anything (just be disappointed), but I do unironically think it looks like a generic anime protagonist, and don't really care for the design as a result. To be honest, I find it to be Emboar, Delphox, and Meganium levels of unappealing and I don't understand why it's the most popular of the three Galar starters.

As far as the starters go, my pick would be Rillaboom as the most potentially unique fighter, then Intelleon because while it would be heavily compared to Greninja (rightfully or otherwise), it could at least bring something interesting to the table, like some sort of sniper shot attack. That'd be cool. I really wouldn't want them to go with Cinderace because on top of the (in my opinion) bland design, I feel like it would be the most vanilla of the three options gameplay wise as well.

 

[Cosmic77]

If we rank the starters based on how easy they'd be to make a moveset for, I think it'd be Inteleon, then Cinderace, followed by Rillaboom.

Inteleon should be fairly easy due to how much it has to work with. It can shoot water with its fingers, it can glide with its cape, and it has a knife hidden in its tail.

Cinderace would be a little harder. It can kick projectiles, but its feet are pretty much all it's known for. If that's the Pokemon Sakurai chooses, he'll have to rely mostly on Cinderace's lower body for attacks (those stubby little arms have no reach).

Rillaboom would require a lot of work simply because it's a mostly stationary fighter. It's key weapon would be very difficult to implement in a fighter who would be jumping and running around almost non-stop. Not impossible, but also clearly more difficult than the other two who are very limber, mobile, and aren't restricted by their main method of attacking.

 

[PK-remling Fire]

Here're my top 10, some of them aren't too realistic for various reasons lol

 

[ARandomFruit]

"Too many Fire Starters" would probably become the new "Too many Swordsmen/Too many Fire Emblem characters" if the Gen 8 Pokemon is Cinderace which I think it will be given the anime asandshown.

Man with this much hatred towards fire I wonder what would happen if a Breath of Fire character got in.. Thinking about it with the way the protagonists are,
I don't think it'd bode too well.

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I'd be okay with it! The Scorbunny line is my favorite.

Nothing too interesting and sadly I doubt any of them will get in.

 

[Heoj]

If we rank the starters based on how easy they'd be to make a moveset for, I think it'd be Inteleon, then Cinderace, followed by Rillaboom.

Inteleon should be fairly easy due to how much it has to work with. It can shoot water with its fingers, it can glide with its cape, and it has a knife hidden in its tail.

Cinderace would be a little harder. It can kick projectiles, but its feet are pretty much all it's known for. If that's the Pokemon Sakurai chooses, he'll have to rely mostly on Cinderace's lower body for attacks (those stubby little arms have no reach).

Rillaboom would require a lot of work simply because it's a mostly stationary fighter. It's key weapon would be very difficult to implement in a fighter who would be jumping and running around almost non-stop. Not impossible, but also clearly more difficult than the other two who are very limber, mobile, and aren't restricted by their main method of attacking.

I feel like some people are exaggerating rillabooms drum kit, i mean rillaboom can carry it around on his back and he would mainly bring it out for specials, smash attacks and maybe like a few aerial attacks

 

[Pluckish]

Here're my top 10, some of them aren't too realistic for various reasons lol
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Amaterasu and Reimu are really cool picks. I think Paper Mario and another PS rep are most likely out of these imo.

 

[Evil Trapezium]

Here're my top 10, some of them aren't too realistic for various reasons lol

Nothing too interesting and sadly I doubt any of them will get in.

We got Joker, Banjo & Kazooie and Terry. Who expected them to get in? I don't mean to raise false hope but come on. Sakurai has made the implausible, plausible.

 

[ShrimpScampi]

Here's my top 10, not necessarily in any order:

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Some could be swapped out for others and I would be just as happy (Ragna for Sol, Lloyd for a different Tales protag). With the Prince, I used his 2008 reboot design because I like it the most, but his Sands of Time trilogy abilities would probably make for the most interesting moveset. Quote & Curly could be an Olimar/Alph situation because of how similar their abilities are. Another Kirby rep would be a runner-up (preferably Bandana Dee, but I'd be down for Adeleine & Ribbon, Magolor, etc).

 

[KillerCage]

BrawlFan1 released another newcomer moveset; this time it's Metal Sonic.

 

[TheCJBrine]

And it also claimed that the PS5 showcase would reveal Bloodbourne and Final Fantasy 16 when neither were revealed.

iirc he didn’t claim anything about the PS5 showcase, he just said some PS5 games (saying PS5 for just one of them tho I guess others like FF are obvious) would be revealed “soon.”

Though if a bunch of the stuff has already been leaked or rumored or whatever, then yeah I guess we can forget it. Funny, if P4Gold has already been going around, I see Sabi’s still trying to take credit for stuff...

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

iirc he didn’t claim anything about the PS5 showcase, he just said some PS5 games (saying PS5 for just one of them tho I guess others like FF are obvious) would be revealed “soon.”

Though if a bunch of the stuff has already been leaked or rumored or whatever, then yeah I guess we can forget it. Funny, if P4Gold has already been going around, I see Sabi’s still trying to take credit for stuff...

Either way, Vergeben shouldn't be tied to this. Sabi is still the only one claiming it.

Nonetheless, this is correct too. "Soon" does not mean PS5 Showcase. It means soon. There's leeway here. The leak is hardly dead yet, and a good point was brought up about a game having an early codename that could've caused confusion. I can't think of any actual examples to compare it to, but it's not over yet.

 

[MooMew64]

Can't wait for the random tweet from Nintendo next week that says "Heeeyyyyy remember Smash Bros? Yeah, well here's Min Min go have fun."

I miss Directs. ; - ;