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Bro, the man's already a stage, what more do you want from him?Playable Bionis for Smash!
And don't give me any of the "Too big for Smash" nonsense.
See but that's the problem. We're talking about freaking The Legend of Zelda, you're telling me that a character from it needs to have Banjo levels of demand to get in? That's insane to me, we're dealing with several iconic and popular characters that have mid-to-high support separately, never mind the unified demand for a new character, any new character. How is that not enough? I mean, if several separate characters - and we're talking 5, at most - getting some demand was enough to get Castlevania in Smash, surely they must have noticed the support for the various Zelda characters. With that caliber I think it's absurd for the devs not to consider it a necessary addition.Honestly I think Zelda only has one problem.
There's no clear front runner.
There are lots of popular Zelda characters but there are so many choices that demand is fractured. Compare things to K. Rool and Ridley where they were far and away the fan favorite character to add next. Who do you add next? Skull Kid? Midna? Ghirahim? Impa? None of that is helped by those who believe Zelda shouldn't have anyone outside the main trio (which I think is lame).
I think if a Zelda newcomer is gonna see any success, the fandom's gonna have to rally behind one character and push them hardcore (while still supporting their favorites).
If I had to choose, I'd say Midna and Skull Kid would be our best bets for that, but who knows...
Finally, Spaghetti-O's and Chef Boyardee get their time to shine.Just came back from the future, where Sakurai just revealed the last DLC fighter. ARMS rep is Min Min and the rest of FPv2 is also noodle themed, but I'll leave the guessing on who they are to you
Yo, Colonel Noodle from Parappa the Rapper confirmed?Just came back from the future, where Sakurai just revealed the last DLC fighter. ARMS rep is Min Min and the rest of FPv2 is also noodle themed, but I'll leave the guessing on who they are to you
Mega Man XI think I got a decent game. I hope it's good.
Make a fighters pass using the top six "gun wielding" characters you'd like to see in Super Smash Bros Ultimate so anyone who fights using guns or any kind of weapon that shoots bullets or lasers beams (Like Samus, Joker, Bayonetta or Inklings) is fair game. I'll give you all an example.
1. Cormano (Sunset Riders)
2. John Raimi (Geist)
3. Doom Guy (DOOM)
4. Gunstar Red/Blue (Gunstar Heroes)
5. The Dude (Postal 2)
6. SGT. CORTEZ! (TimeSplitters)
YEAH! IT'S TIME TO SPLIT!
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Guy Eldoon? Not the Ace Attorney rep I would have gone with, but whatever.Just came back from the future, where Sakurai just revealed the last DLC fighter. ARMS rep is Min Min and the rest of FPv2 is also noodle themed, but I'll leave the guessing on who they are to you
I might not be a Layton fan, but part of me is holding out for you guys. One of my siblings likes his and Phoenix Wright's games.>Every rare occasion Layton gets acknowledged by the Smash community.
>It's always in these meme posts that tend to make him look like a joke and unappealing.
>Supporting Layton is an uphill battle filled with pain and suffering.
What did we do to deserve this Laytonbros...? OTL
Elma and Dante count.Mega Man X
Doom Slayer
Lara Croft
Master Chief
Elma, if she counts
Dante, if he counts
If they don't count, Ratchet and Clank and uh....Regina from Dino Crisis. DC2 has some crazy weapons.
We move.
I want it to either be Spring Man or multiple characters via costumes. But obviously I can't say for sure what'll actually happen. I just want to see the moveset at this point. Would said character only use their default arms, or a whole slew from the entire game?All I know is, whoever the ARMS character is, people will say it was extremely obvious to anyone with half a brain, which totally includes me. Ignore all the posts I deleted, of course I could tell it was [REDACTED] all along.
Well yeah. That'll happen. But I believe that the fans of AT characters like Waluigi or Alcuard will have more to say than anything else if it is Spring-Man. If not, everyone will just play Marvin's Room.The only annoying thing I can see is gonna happen if it's not Springman will be supporters of 'x secondary character' making as if they will get in before the protagonist/mascot.
There's already a few of them who use Robin, of all people, as an example.
Bomberman was kind of picking up after Smash 4, I think he mostly dropped off being an AT. I guess you could see Ashley as the same, but she was a character I didn't pay attention to.Strange thing about speculation, there's certain characters that are really era specific. Not to say there's not people who support them still but they had a massive hey-day and not have kinda tapered off.
For Example in the Brawl Era the popular picks were:
Krystal
Isaac
Bowser Jr. (This is back when the paint brush was his thing, not the clown car)
King K. Rool
Ridley
Ashley
Waluigi
Bomberman
Geno
Since then, of those who didn't eventually make it in, only Geno and Waluigi have really active scenes around them, at least from what I've seen.
Isaac's thread is also fairly active.Since then, of those who didn't eventually make it in, only Geno and Waluigi have really active scenes around them, at least from what I've seen.
Well Isaac has made a comeback as of late on the hope that is Spring Man could be promoted, why not?Isaac's thread is also fairly active.
Well, he uses other Psyenergy too.Well Isaac has made a comeback as of late on the hope that is Spring Man could be promoted, why not?
After all, from what I understand of Golden Sun, Isaac's AT function could be done by anyone with the push power.
It was already active before the ARMS announcement.Well Isaac has made a comeback as of late
It's why I think Garet would be a better replacement for the AT than Felix.Well, he uses other Psyenergy too.
But they're all things other characters can do.
Yeah, during most of Smash 4's cycle, Geno's fanbase dwindled to very small numbers.Geno had pretty much dropped off after Brawl too. His Smash 4 thread here didn't even make it to 100 pages. Even someone like Krystal, who everyone claims to be that nothing burger character everyone stopped caring about after Brawl, still had over 300 pages in her support thread.
The Mii costume and Sakurai endorsement really saved that character from falling into oblivion.
I think that’s the most likely case too. Him getting one of those upgraded costumes and a song. Especially if we happened to get a Paper Mario playable character.More the reason why I think Geno isn't as likely as many says. Still expect he'll be an Mii costume again.
This is where Sora comes to mind given how demanded he is but of course there's the whole thing with Disney and in the end they get the final say.I think that’s the most likely case too. Him getting one of those upgraded costumes and a song. Especially if we happened to get a Paper Mario playable character.
I just think if Square was going to put another character in they would want one that would be more beneficial to them and promote a series they’re currently profiting from. But I don’t know.
Heres where I personally heavily disagree, in my opinion i think that an upgraded costume just doesnt make any sense for Geno considering the fact that all mii costumes cost the same amount of money, so why would they remodel the already existing Geno costume and throw 1 or 2 songs on there. I think Geno is either going to be playable or the smash 4 costume comes back which i think is already pretty damn low since Geno could have come back with Hero, Banjo or Byleth.I think that’s the most likely case too. Him getting one of those upgraded costumes and a song. Especially if we happened to get a Paper Mario playable character.
I just think if Square was going to put another character in they would want one that would be more beneficial to them and promote a series they’re currently profiting from. But I don’t know.
Well, I think Geno is a special case. I’ll be honest and say I don’t think we’re getting another Square character. We already got Cloud returning and we got a DLC character.Heres where I personally heavily disagree, in my opinion i think that an upgraded costume just doesnt make any sense for Geno considering the fact that all mii costumes cost the same amount of money, so why would they remodel the already existing Geno costume and throw 1 or 2 songs on there. I think Geno is either going to be playable or the smash 4 costume comes back which i think is already pretty damn low since Geno could have come back with Hero, Banjo or Byleth.
And the idea that Square wouldnt want someone like Geno ive always found to be a bit strange. If Sakurai and Nintendo go to Square and ask for Geno, Square isnt gonna be like "nah how about (insert someone else)", like if Square rejects Geno I think there just wont be another square character in the fighters pass, since Sakurai and Nintendo wouldnt be looking for a Square character, they would be looking for specifically Geno.
I anyways doubt Square would reject Geno as they probably would accept it since Cloud and Hero are already in, but thats just my thought on the matter.
Sakurai wants him in, so he'd certainly ask.Well, I think Geno is a special case. I’ll be honest and say I don’t think we’re getting another Square character. We already got Cloud returning and we got a DLC character.
I think the main reason the old Geno costume hasn’t shown up yet is because they’re reworking it. Geno’s proportions are very similar to Sans and Cuphead and they could make a costume look exactly like the character.
I just think if Sakurai and Nintendo was going to ask Square for another playable character they wouldn’t ask them about an old Mario character from a 24 year old. And I promise I don’t mean that as a slight against Geno. I think he’s a cool character and I’d think it would be awesome for all his loyal fans to see him playable.
Yeah, I could see Sakurai wanting to do it for the fans. Nintendo and Square will do what they think will make sense the most financially. And I don’t think that only pertains to character sales, but promotion for said character/series. Geno promotes the Mario series which does nothing for Square.Sakurai wants him in, so he'd certainly ask.
Nintendo on the other hand, might not. Geno may not even among the characters Sakurai is suggested either. He's got more than enough fan support that it's plausible they select him, though.
Nintendo =/= Sakurai opinion-wise. Nintendo suggests the character first, Sakurai weighs in on it as they talk. Then, if Sakurai likes the idea, they need to get licensing done where applicable. Any company could deny Sakurai the character too, so it's a 3-step process before final development of a character. Only 1/3 clearly want Geno playable in this particular context. 2/3 of it are the wildcard.
Same thing logically with a costume. Basically, if they have no plans to use Geno in even a SMRPG re-release/download for the Switch, they may not allow a costume being used either.Yeah, I could see Sakurai wanting to do it for the fans. Nintendo and Square will do what they think will make sense the most financially. And I don’t think that only pertains to character sales, but promotion for said character/series. Geno promotes the Mario series which does nothing for Square.
I really need to play TWEWY.honestly if it was nintendo who picked banjo, i could totally see geno make it in
and besides
we've gotten square's two biggest series out of the way now. the two jrpg giants they own that shaped them into what they are today are now both in the game. so in terms of possibilities for a third square enix rep? it's free real estate. this is where i think geno comes in. but if it's a deluxe mii, i honestly think they're gonna give it some extra bells and whistles compared to the other deluxe miis
and i'm not even a geno supporter. i'm neku gang all the way. i just wanted to throw in my two cents on the puppet
In hindsight, it makes a lot of sense that AlphaDream couldn't license Geno for the Superstar Saga remake considering that, you know, they were basically on the verge of collapse at that point.Way I see it
if Square wanted to have another character after their most popular (Cloud) and the one that represented the very origin of the JRPG (Hero), they’d wanna pick someone up and coming like 2B (NieR Automata), a BD/OT rep, or Neku (TWEWY with it’s sudden resurgence in the spotlight). Maybe even their own Western-created character, Lara Croft (they own Eidos now). Geno doesn’t really fit into any of those esp considering he didn’t appear in the Superstar Saga 3DS remake.
Just came back from the future, where Sakurai just revealed the last DLC fighter. ARMS rep is Min Min and the rest of FPv2 is also noodle themed, but I'll leave the guessing on who they are to you
Still hoping Nintendo can buy it or salvage the remaining staff. I’m still sad about CING and their other now defunct sub studios whose names I forgetIn hindsight, it makes a lot of sense that AlphaDream couldn't license Geno for the Superstar Saga remake considering that, you know, they were basically on the verge of collapse at that point.
Technically curry, not noodles, but noodles can be a curry ingredientI want Neku in as much as the next guy, but I don't see him as likely...
- This must mean Raz from Psychonauts is coming to Smash because Raz is associated with the human mind. And where does that come from? The brain! And what's another word for brain? That's right, the noodle! Also he's owned by Microsoft, and so is Banjo and he's in Smash. Therefore, Raz is in.
- Noctis (from Final Fantasy XV) is also in because his game has a cross promotion with Cup Noodles.
- Geno is in as well since he comes from a Mario game and Mario loves spaghetti, which has noodles.
- Mama Broodal is in because her name rhymes with noodle.
- A Sword/Shield rep is getting in because you can cook noodles in that game.
His last usage was the SNES Mini, which its lifespan ended in 2018. Possibly earlier than intended too. This would make sense why we got Spirits, since during 2015, it easy to license it since it'd help advertise a product that'll be active when Ultimate releases(or ideally active, anyway).My main issue with trying to think that Geno is likely is that he's in a very bizarre situation compared to other fighters. Outside of one cameo he hasn't been seen for decades and it feels like he's mostly survived due to Smash discussion. I also believe if we were to get a third Square rep, it wouldn't be him because SE may want a more relevant rep like 2B or even Neku and Geno is no Banjo-Kazooie before anyone says anything.
If it was a game or two ago I could have seen Geno get in but now it's much different.
So this is how Noctis gets into Smash.Just came back from the future, where Sakurai just revealed the last DLC fighter. ARMS rep is Min Min and the rest of FPv2 is also noodle themed, but I'll leave the guessing on who they are to you
My main issue with trying to think that Geno is likely is that he's in a very bizarre situation compared to other fighters. Outside of one cameo he hasn't been seen for decades and it feels like he's mostly survived due to Smash discussion. I also believe if we were to get a third Square rep, it wouldn't be him because SE may want a more relevant rep like 2B or even Neku and Geno is no Banjo-Kazooie before anyone says anything.
If it was a game or two ago I could have seen Geno get in but now it's much different.
Square Enix don't just get to pick which of their characters that get added to Smash though, that's thinking about the process in reverse. When Nintendo approach a company, they've already decided on which character they want, so the company isn't asked about who, they're simply asked to give a yes or a no to Nintendo's proposal.Way I see it
if Square wanted to have another character after their most popular (Cloud) and the one that represented the very origin of the JRPG (Hero), they’d wanna pick someone up and coming like 2B (NieR Automata), a BD/OT rep, or Neku (TWEWY with it’s sudden resurgence in the spotlight). Maybe even their own Western-created character, Lara Croft (they own Eidos now). Geno doesn’t really fit into any of those esp considering he didn’t appear in the Superstar Saga 3DS remake.