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DaybreakHorizon

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Seventeen Characters with one spirit? Sure.

  1. Paper Mario (Spirit)
  2. Xenoblade 3 Protag
  3. Waluigi
  4. Officer Howard
  5. Savvy Stylist
  6. Rhythm Heaven
  7. Rayman
  8. 2B
  9. Lloyd Irving
  10. Heihachi
  11. Ryu Hayabusa
  12. Monster Hunter
  13. Arle Nadja
  14. Travis Touchdown
  15. Crash Bandicoot
  16. Master Chief
  17. Sora
Tried to go based off of wants/what I think Nintendo would want to throw in.
 
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You know, with a video Maximilian Dood posted about this game being the Golden Age of Smash and hypothesizing if Smash Ultimate can make it to future consoles, I was thinking about what if this game can reach 100 characters? We so far have 83 (77 of which we know which is just insane...). If you could fill up the remaining spots with characters to make it to 100, who would they be? They cannot be Assist Trophies and you are limited to just one Spirit to be a character. Mine would be something like this (besides the ARMS character):

Akira Howard (Astral Chain)
Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)
Dante (Devil May Cry)
Master Chief (Halo)
Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden)
Crash (Crash Bandicoot)
Sora (Kingdom Hearts)
Phoenix Wright (Ace Attorney)
Travis (No More Heroes)
Doomguy (DOOM)
2B (Nier Automata)
Heihachi (Tekken)
Lloyd (Tales of Symphonia)
Kratos (God of War)
Sol Badguy (Guilty Gear)
Scorpion (Mortal Kombat)
Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
Alrighty, here we go:

1. Byte and Barq
2. Rock Pikmin (my spirit upgrade)
3. Voodoo Vince
4. Bubsy
5. Dark Luigi
6. The Guy from Hatred
7. Goku (Yuyuki)
8. Goku (Dragon Ball)
9. Joseph Frost (mocapped using the actor from the PS1 opening)
10. The Armadillo Bubsy hangs out with
11. Nostalgia Critic (because he likes to go one step further)
12. Sonic Forces OC
13. Amazon Alexa (GF for R.O.B)
14. Mega Man (Fully Charged Version, replaces standard outdated Mega Man)
15. Burger King Foot Lettuce
16. Wolverine
17. Bone Claw Wolverine
 

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My 17 picks:

1: Metal Mario
2: Green Mario
3: Paper Mario
4: Shadow Mario
5: Tanooki Mario
6: Cat Mario
7: Baby Mario
8: Red Luigi
9: Kitsune Luigi
10: Baby Luigi
11: Cat Peach
12: Pink Gold Peach
13: Baby Peach
14: Baby Rosalina
15: Baby Daisy
16: Bubsy
17: Pepsiman

Just try and outdo this list, spoiler alert, it’s IMPOSSIBLE.
A chair should be a playable character :troll:
 

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You know, with a video Maximilian Dood posted about this game being the Golden Age of Smash and hypothesizing if Smash Ultimate can make it to future consoles, I was thinking about what if this game can reach 100 characters? We so far have 83 (77 of which we know which is just insane...). If you could fill up the remaining spots with characters to make it to 100, who would they be? They cannot be Assist Trophies and you are limited to just one Spirit to be a character. Mine would be something like this (besides the ARMS character):

Akira Howard (Astral Chain)
Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)
Dante (Devil May Cry)
Master Chief (Halo)
Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden)
Crash (Crash Bandicoot)
Sora (Kingdom Hearts)
Phoenix Wright (Ace Attorney)
Travis (No More Heroes)
Doomguy (DOOM)
2B (Nier Automata)
Heihachi (Tekken)
Lloyd (Tales of Symphonia)
Kratos (God of War)
Sol Badguy (Guilty Gear)
Scorpion (Mortal Kombat)
Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
Dr. Coyle (obligatory ARMS rep)
Kazuma Kiryu
Reimu Hakurei
Jill Valentine/Leon Kennedy (my spirit upgrade)
Steve
2B
Sol Badguy
Frisk
Dante
Savvy Stylist
Phoenix Wright
Professor Layton
Don-chan
Carmen Sandiego
Carl Johnson
Master Chief
Kat

This is mostly just a list of things I really want regardless of probability. If the spirit upgrade limit wasn't there I'd probably swap out two of them for Officer Howard and Paper Mario
 

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14. Mega Man (Fully Charged Version, replaces standard outdated Mega Man)
You were so close, but this roster could be improved just a little bit.



Also, I hadn't heard of Mega Man Fully Charged before, but I'm a little baffled that it got 52 episodes, considering that it seems to have so little consideration for the source material that (going by Wikipedia episode summaries) Dr. Wily doesn't seem to appear at all.
 
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GoodGrief741

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I mean, it's 1 of 15 characters and ARMS in Smash hasn't been like the most tantalizing thing ever AND Nintendo holds all the cards in regards to information about the character. I can see how it's both just not that readily available and how even people who may even have knowledge wouldn't care too much. The vast majority of people who leak information want some degree of glory out of it, saying which one of fifteen is coming next doesn't really net you much clout to be honest. The fact that maybe even as low as a 1/3rd of those 15 are really reasonable barring a conglomerate situation means you could guess any of those five and be equally right means it's even worse off as information to leak. Are you potentially going to blow a source if you care about that sort of thing or attempt to earn a reputation because you got a 1 in 5 chance that most people expected anyway? I feel like the answer is decidedly no.




Alright, what if you gave this a shot? I genuinely want to see what you come up with in terms of making a list according to those rules as our resident first party supporter.

Edit: Alternatively, I'll augment the rules to where you can include any fighter you want, but you have to pick at least 5 third party characters in addition to your choices.
"The ARMS character didn't leak because nobody cares about ARMS" has got to take the crown of worst take I've seen in a while, at least since that guy said Sakurai and Terry's creator are lovers.
 

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You know, with a video Maximilian Dood posted about this game being the Golden Age of Smash and hypothesizing if Smash Ultimate can make it to future consoles, I was thinking about what if this game can reach 100 characters? We so far have 83 (77 of which we know which is just insane...). If you could fill up the remaining spots with characters to make it to 100, who would they be? They cannot be Assist Trophies and you are limited to just one Spirit to be a character. Mine would be something like this (besides the ARMS character):

Akira Howard (Astral Chain)
Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)
Dante (Devil May Cry)
Master Chief (Halo)
Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden)
Crash (Crash Bandicoot)
Sora (Kingdom Hearts)
Phoenix Wright (Ace Attorney)
Travis (No More Heroes)
Doomguy (DOOM)
2B (Nier Automata)
Heihachi (Tekken)
Lloyd (Tales of Symphonia)
Kratos (God of War)
Sol Badguy (Guilty Gear)
Scorpion (Mortal Kombat)
Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
Lets see...
1. Obligatory ARMS character
2. Shantae (spirit upgrade)
3. Steve
4. Heavy
5. Otto Matic
6. Reimu
7. Carmen Sandiego
8. Ryu Hayabusa
9. Crash Bandicoot
10. Glitch (Metal Arms: Glitch in the System)
11. Sgt. Cortez
12. Athena (not Athena Asamiya, rather Athena from... Athena)
13. Master Chief
14. Mike Jones
15. Roselia
16. Tracer
17. Edward Richtofen
 

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You know, with a video Maximilian Dood posted about this game being the Golden Age of Smash and hypothesizing if Smash Ultimate can make it to future consoles, I was thinking about what if this game can reach 100 characters? We so far have 83 (77 of which we know which is just insane...). If you could fill up the remaining spots with characters to make it to 100, who would they be? They cannot be Assist Trophies and you are limited to just one Spirit to be a character. Mine would be something like this (besides the ARMS character):
I could only think of so much that fit your criteria, so…
  1. Sora (Kingdom Hearts)
  2. Crash Bandicoot
  3. Euden (Dragalia Lost)
  4. Sirfetch’d (Pokémon Sword and Shield)
  5. Aerith (Final Fantasy VII)
  6. Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
  7. Arle Nadja (Puyo Puyo)
  8. Adeleine and Ribbon (Kirby)
Ignoring the criteria:
84. Sora (Kingdom Hearts)
85. Crash Bandicoot
86. DeMille (Tomato Adventure)
87. Euden (Dragalia Lost)
88. Jill Valentine (Resident Evil)
89. Sirfetch’d (Pokémon Sword and Shield)
90. Min Min (ARMS)
91. Aerith (Final Fantasy)
92. Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
93. Shadow the Hedgehog (38ε)
94. Arle Nadja (Puyo Puyo)
95. Bandana Dee (Kirby)
96. Adeleine and Ribbon (Kirby)
97. Ghirahim (Zelda)
98. Slippy Toad (Star Fox)
99. Ayumi Tachibana (Famicom Detective Club)
100. Balloon Fighter
 
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MisterHollywood

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Still makes more sense than the Bayo glitch = Min Min theory. Bayo rarely uses her arms, which is what's most important for basically any ARMS character. Min Min's moveset would probably be mostly punches and attacks involving her arms (for obvious reasons).

Honestly, it would make more sense to use a larger Little Mac skeleton and tweak the punches and posture than Bayo.
Look idk if I believe these glitch theories but if it’s Bayo wouldn’t it definitely be Twintelle because of the slow down time stuff and fighting with hair? I mean the latter probably would be less important but slowing down time would definitely be a factor
 

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You were so close, but this roster could be improved just a little bit.



Also, I hadn't heard of Mega Man Fully Charged before, but I'm a little baffled that it got 52 episodes, considering that it seems to have so little consideration for the source material that (going by Wikipedia episode summaries) Dr. Wily doesn't seem to appear at all.
So, Dr. Wily does appear in Mega Man: Fully Charged... but he's this red-headed kid who hangs around Mega Man at his school. Like, he's not an antagonist or even a major supporting character, he's just there to give Mega Man someone to talk to during the less interesting B-plots. Instead the villain is just some ominous looking dude who has a weird grudge against robots.

It seems between this, Captain N, and the Ruby Spears cartoon, Mega Man seems to be a magnet for western cartoons that have extremely odd interpretations of the source material.
 

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You know, with a video Maximilian Dood posted about this game being the Golden Age of Smash and hypothesizing if Smash Ultimate can make it to future consoles, I was thinking about what if this game can reach 100 characters? We so far have 83 (77 of which we know which is just insane...). If you could fill up the remaining spots with characters to make it to 100, who would they be? They cannot be Assist Trophies and you are limited to just one Spirit to be a character. Mine would be something like this (besides the ARMS character):

Akira Howard (Astral Chain)
Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)
Dante (Devil May Cry)
Master Chief (Halo)
Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden)
Crash (Crash Bandicoot)
Sora (Kingdom Hearts)
Phoenix Wright (Ace Attorney)
Travis (No More Heroes)
Doomguy (DOOM)
2B (Nier Automata)
Heihachi (Tekken)
Lloyd (Tales of Symphonia)
Kratos (God of War)
Sol Badguy (Guilty Gear)
Scorpion (Mortal Kombat)
Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
I really am I sucker for these types of questions.

1. Ezio
2. Rex (Dam the one spirit rule, made me kick out Shantae, Rayman and Geno)
3. Phoenix Wright
4. Doom Slayer
5. Agumon
6. Crash Bandicoot
7. Kratos
8. Steve
9. Master Chief
10. Quote
11. Dante
12. Sora
13. Ryu Hayabusa
14. Travis Touchdown
15. Lara Croft
16. Arle Nadja
17. Axel Stone

I had to cut out some really good contenders like Monster Hunter and Bill Rizer for the sake of variety and company representation. Even with 17 spots this was still a bit difficult.
 

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Everyday a part of me dies, knowing that aside from a literal miracle there is no way Neku turns out to be a potential Square Fighter.


I live with it by saying that TWEWY is too good for Smash. It's how I cope with the lack of any Chrono Trigger representation too.

WHY CAN'T THE WORLD REVOLVE AROUND ME.
 

EricTheGamerman

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"The ARMS character didn't leak because nobody cares about ARMS" has got to take the crown of worst take I've seen in a while, at least since that guy said Sakurai and Terry's creator are lovers.
I didn't say it was the only reason by any stretch of the imagination, just that there's not much particular benefit to leaking who it is and like I said in my original post, barring an ARMS 2 character, you already have it narrowed down to 15 characters, and of those 15, about 5 clearly stand above all others. Let's not pretend leakers aren't vain people by nature and that in such a scenario as this one there just isn't much glory to be had, so I doubt many are interested in it that typically would be, and like it's just not that interesting of a thing to leak. Just like the reveal itself won't actually be that interesting outside of finally showing gameplay because there's literally only 15 characters in the world it could be compared to literally any other reveal where the entire world of gaming was in play.

I can acknowledge the reality of it being a much less tantalizing prize to leakers AND point out the obvious it's a Nintendo character so they control the flow of information much more effectively than third party options that require many more people to be in the loop and have access to the information.
 

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You know, with a video Maximilian Dood posted about this game being the Golden Age of Smash and hypothesizing if Smash Ultimate can make it to future consoles, I was thinking about what if this game can reach 100 characters? We so far have 83 (77 of which we know which is just insane...). If you could fill up the remaining spots with characters to make it to 100, who would they be? They cannot be Assist Trophies and you are limited to just one Spirit to be a character. Mine would be something like this (besides the ARMS character):

Akira Howard (Astral Chain)
Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)
Dante (Devil May Cry)
Master Chief (Halo)
Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden)
Crash (Crash Bandicoot)
Sora (Kingdom Hearts)
Phoenix Wright (Ace Attorney)
Travis (No More Heroes)
Doomguy (DOOM)
2B (Nier Automata)
Heihachi (Tekken)
Lloyd (Tales of Symphonia)
Kratos (God of War)
Sol Badguy (Guilty Gear)
Scorpion (Mortal Kombat)
Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)

76. Max Brass(ARMS)
77. Lloyd Irving/Tales Of Rep
78. Sol Badguy(Guilty Gear)
79. Ryu Hayabusa(Ninja Gaiden)
80. Reimu Hakurei(Touhou)
81. Porky Minch(Earthbound)
82. 2B(Nier)
83. Sakura Shinguji(Sakura Wars)
84. Death(Darksiders)
85. Travis Touchdown(No More Heroes)
86. Dante(Devil May Cry)
87. Pyramid Head(Silent Hill)
88. Master Chief(Halo)
89. Euden(Dragalia Lost)
90. Phoenix Wright(Ace Attourney)
91. King(Tekken)
92. Dynasty Warriors Rep
93. Professor Layton
94. Sylux(Metroid)
95. Elie or Ryza(Atelier)
96. Nightmare(Soul Calibur)
97. Lara Croft(Tomb Raider)
98. Billy and Jimmy Lee(Double Dragon)
99. Arle Nadja(Puyo Puyo)
100. Funky Kong(Donkey Kong)

A mix of wants and plausible characters.
 
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RouffWestie

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My 17 picks:

1: Metal Mario
2: Green Mario
3: Paper Mario
4: Shadow Mario
5: Tanooki Mario
6: Cat Mario
7: Baby Mario
8: Red Luigi
9: Kitsune Luigi
10: Baby Luigi
11: Cat Peach
12: Pink Gold Peach
13: Baby Peach
14: Baby Rosalina
15: Baby Daisy
16: Bubsy
17: Pepsiman

Just try and outdo this list, spoiler alert, it’s IMPOSSIBLE.
I'm mad that half of this joke list was actually playable in an official Nintendo game.
 

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I have to disagree with Binding Blade being dull gameplay wise. While the objectives in Binding Blade lack in variety, it's not like Blazing Blade offers different objectives each chapter. I prefer Blazing Blade myself but in terms of map design and challenge Binding Blade seems clearly superior in comparison to FE7, at least for me.

FE7 being more popular is not surprising with the 3 lords of the game being really popular among fans. FE6 lacks in that regard, also, FE6 story is more focused in the world building and the lore while FE7 focuses more in the characters.
It doesn't, but when it does offer them, there's at the very least variety. Some of the best(And worst) parts of Blazing Blade involve alternate map win cons that aren't just "ROUTE THE ENEMY", and to me at the very least, the unit balance in Blazing Blade seems MUCH better than it was in Binding Blade.

I love a lot of units in Binding Blade, but soo many of them are dumpster bin statwise. Sophia is one of my favorite FE6 units, but there's a reason both her and her map are universally panned for being dreadful.



You really trynna move the goalposts to try and win this argument you already lost. This has nothing to do about when the first pass was decided/revealed/worked on/whatever, like at all, wanna keep building this straw man and keep arguing with me about something I never even claimed? Go ahead if it helps your “I worked in advertising so I’m clearly an expert on all things Nintendo” ass get sleep at night

what’re we arguing about? The fighters pass characters not being affected by fighters pass 1 characters. You said they most definitely acquired the rights to the 2 characters by the time the 1 characters were decided. I proved that would be stupid because fighters pass 2 was never guaranteed to begin with. Now you’re trynna argue with me about some **** that I never even said. Bro calm down, you lost an argument on the internet, no need to wave your college degree in my face and go BUT IM CLEARLY A GENIUS


This argument still doesn’t make any sense. You realize the characters rights still need to be bought again right? Just because Snake was in Brawl Sakurai can add him to Ultimate without getting the rights from Konami again. Whether you realize it or not the companies CAN get dealt with multiple times. You’re literally trying to argue “Nintendo definitely wouldn’t do this” what? You work for Nintendo? You’re Sakurai? No? Alright then. You don’t know what the **** they’re gonna do so stop acting like it
Mate I don't even remember what we were arguing about rofl. It was 4am my time and you're being needlessly aggressive over probably a breakdown in communication.
 

GoodGrief741

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I didn't say it was the only reason by any stretch of the imagination, just that there's not much particular benefit to leaking who it is and like I said in my original post, barring an ARMS 2 character, you already have it narrowed down to 15 characters, and of those 15, about 5 clearly stand above all others. Let's not pretend leakers aren't vain people by nature and that in such a scenario as this one there just isn't much glory to be had, so I doubt many are interested in it that typically would be, and like it's just not that interesting of a thing to leak. Just like the reveal itself won't actually be that interesting outside of finally showing gameplay because there's literally only 15 characters in the world it could be compared to literally any other reveal where the entire world of gaming was in play.

I can acknowledge the reality of it being a much less tantalizing prize to leakers AND point out the obvious it's a Nintendo character so they control the flow of information much more effectively than third party options that require many more people to be in the loop and have access to the information.
It's a Smash character, people are going to want to leak it, no matter who it is. When we learned that SNK would be getting a fighter, people were desperate for leakers to tell us who despite SNK arguably having less realistic options than ARMS.

Plus, given how all the leakers were caught off guard by Byleth and how nobody appears to be able to leak Nintendo characters, anyone who does leak the ARMS character will be the king of the hill for the foreseeable future. I don't see how that isn't tantalizing to any glory-seeking would-be leaker.
 

MisterHollywood

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It doesn't, but when it does offer them, there's at the very least variety. Some of the best(And worst) parts of Blazing Blade involve alternate map win cons that aren't just "ROUTE THE ENEMY", and to me at the very least, the unit balance in Blazing Blade seems MUCH better than it was in Binding Blade.

I love a lot of units in Binding Blade, but soo many of them are dumpster bin statwise. Sophia is one of my favorite FE6 units, but there's a reason both her and her map are universally panned for being dreadful.




Mate I don't even remember what we were arguing about rofl. It was 4am my time and you're being needlessly aggressive over probably a breakdown in communication.
So that‘s how you’re gonna get out of it? Clever I guess
 

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Somebody pretty boldly leaked Ken and he was an echo everyone assumed would be in the game anyway. Once someone leaked a texture of a platform on Battlefield. I don't think there's really a floor to what people will leak, given the opportunity.

Even if it's not, like, Master Chief, any Smash character is a pretty hot commodity because the fanbase is insane.
 

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You know, with a video Maximilian Dood posted about this game being the Golden Age of Smash and hypothesizing if Smash Ultimate can make it to future consoles, I was thinking about what if this game can reach 100 characters? We so far have 83 (77 of which we know which is just insane...). If you could fill up the remaining spots with characters to make it to 100, who would they be? They cannot be Assist Trophies and you are limited to just one Spirit to be a character. Mine would be something like this (besides the ARMS character):

Akira Howard (Astral Chain)
Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)
Dante (Devil May Cry)
Master Chief (Halo)
Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden)
Crash (Crash Bandicoot)
Sora (Kingdom Hearts)
Phoenix Wright (Ace Attorney)
Travis (No More Heroes)
Doomguy (DOOM)
2B (Nier Automata)
Heihachi (Tekken)
Lloyd (Tales of Symphonia)
Kratos (God of War)
Sol Badguy (Guilty Gear)
Scorpion (Mortal Kombat)
Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
I made my list without what my dream second pass would be because its more fun I guess.
1. Quote (Cave Story)
2. Sol Badguy (Guilty Gear)
3. Arle (Puyo Puyo)
4. Steve (Minecraft)
5. Arthur (Ghost and Goblins)
6. Doomguy (Doom)
7. Isaac (Binding of Isaac)
8. Phoenix Wright (Ace Attorny)
9. Sakura (Sakura Wars)
10. Kos-Mos (Xenosaga)
11. Ragna (Blazblue)
12. Smithy (Smrpg)
13. Vaati (Legend of Zelda)
14. Master Chief (Halo)
15. Jibanyan (Yo-kai Watch)
16. Chrono (Chrono Trigger)
17. Dante (Devil May Cry)
Not really ordered in any specific way, Its entirely just characters I want which is why I didn't take in consideration for anything besides spirits.
 
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You know, with a video Maximilian Dood posted about this game being the Golden Age of Smash and hypothesizing if Smash Ultimate can make it to future consoles, I was thinking about what if this game can reach 100 characters? We so far have 83 (77 of which we know which is just insane...). If you could fill up the remaining spots with characters to make it to 100, who would they be? They cannot be Assist Trophies and you are limited to just one Spirit to be a character. Mine would be something like this (besides the ARMS character):

Akira Howard (Astral Chain)
Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)
Dante (Devil May Cry)
Master Chief (Halo)
Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden)
Crash (Crash Bandicoot)
Sora (Kingdom Hearts)
Phoenix Wright (Ace Attorney)
Travis (No More Heroes)
Doomguy (DOOM)
2B (Nier Automata)
Heihachi (Tekken)
Lloyd (Tales of Symphonia)
Kratos (God of War)
Sol Badguy (Guilty Gear)
Scorpion (Mortal Kombat)
Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
Ok, let see:

1). An ARMS duo that are tethered together by a green or orange thread (something akin to the mindset/rule set of Team Fight) or Mechanica (ARMS)
2). Itsuki Aoi & Chrom (Tokyo Mirage Sessions ♯FE Encore)
3). Rex & Coffee-with-Milk (Spoiler territory) (Xenoblade Chronicles 2)
4). Euden (Dragalia Lost)
5). KOS-MOS (Xenosaga)
6). Reiji Arisu & Xiaomu (Namco x Capcom)
7). Jin Kazama (Tekken)
8). Rick Taylor (Splatterhouse)
9). Nathan "Rad" Spencer (Bionic Commando)
10.) Gunvolt (Azure Striker Gunvolt)
11.) Yooka & Laylee (Yooka-Laylee)
12.) Fafnir Knight (Etrian Odyssey)
13.) Shiren the Wanderer (Shiren the Wanderer)
14.) Ulala (Space Channel 5)
15.) Ciel Alencon (God Eater)
16.) Kazuma Kiryu (Yakuza)
17.) JC Denton (Deus Ex)
18.) Alexandra Roivas (Eternal Darkness)
 

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You know, with a video Maximilian Dood posted about this game being the Golden Age of Smash and hypothesizing if Smash Ultimate can make it to future consoles, I was thinking about what if this game can reach 100 characters? We so far have 83 (77 of which we know which is just insane...). If you could fill up the remaining spots with characters to make it to 100, who would they be? They cannot be Assist Trophies and you are limited to just one Spirit to be a character. Mine would be something like this (besides the ARMS character):

Akira Howard (Astral Chain)
Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)
Dante (Devil May Cry)
Master Chief (Halo)
Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden)
Crash (Crash Bandicoot)
Sora (Kingdom Hearts)
Phoenix Wright (Ace Attorney)
Travis (No More Heroes)
Doomguy (DOOM)
2B (Nier Automata)
Heihachi (Tekken)
Lloyd (Tales of Symphonia)
Kratos (God of War)
Sol Badguy (Guilty Gear)
Scorpion (Mortal Kombat)
Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
1. Min Min
2. Crash Bandicoot
3. Dragapult
4. Elma
5. Puzzle & Dragons rep
6. Waluigi
7. Dixie Kong
8. Octoling
9. Rhythm Heaven rep
10. Porky Minch
11. Viridi/Hades
12. Tracer
13. Doomguy
14. Steve
15. Dr. Robotnik
16. Rayman
17. Shantae

I think I just completely ignored the spirit rule -_-;
 
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ShrimpScampi

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These are my seventeen characters if I could be completely selfish with the DLC choices:

1. TBH I don't have much of a preference on who the ARMS character is, but I guess Dr. Coyle because she seems neat
2. Travis Touchdown (No More Heroes)
3. Phoenix Wright (Ace Attorney)
4. A Tales Of rep [Lloyd or Yuri would be the most likely, but I actually think Sorey would make for the most interesting playstyle due to armatization]
5. Akira Howard (Astral Chain) [spirit upgrade, and there must be a Lappy Mii Brawler costume]
6. 2B (NieR: Automata)
7. Sol Badguy (Guilty Gear)
8. Estelle Bright (The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky)
9. Neku Sakuraba (The World Ends With You)
10. The Prince (Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time) [although I could imagine him also borrowing moves from his 2008 reboot counterpart]
11. Monokuma (Danganronpa)
12. Professor Layton (Professor Layton)
13. Ragna the Bloodedge (BlazBlue)
14. Hat Kid (A Hat in Time)
15. A rep from another Sega franchise [I haven't played Yakuza and don't know much about that, so I was thinking Nights or Selvaria Bles from Valkyria Chronicles. Yakuza could be alright too though]
16. Raz (Psychonauts)
17. Quote / Curly Brace (Cave Story) [with the added stipulation that Pixel gets the IP back]
 

Koopaul

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I kind of want it to be Spring Man just because of the amount of hate he gets. I'm starting to understand how Fire Emblem fans feel.

However, I won't be screaming "HOES MAD! HOES MAD!" if he does get in.
 

Jomosensual

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"The ARMS character didn't leak because nobody cares about ARMS" has got to take the crown of worst take I've seen in a while, at least since that guy said Sakurai and Terry's creator are lovers.
It's the most obvious BS too since Byleth didn't leak and well, it's pretty tough to argue that nobody cared about him or 3 Houses
 

DarthEnderX

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Alternatively, I'll augment the rules to where you can include any fighter you want, but you have to pick at least 5 third party characters in addition to your choices.
Then:

1. Ryu Hayabusa [Ninja Gaiden]
2. Bill Rizer/Lance Bean [Contra]
3. Arthur [Ghosts ‘n Goblins]
4. Kunio/Riki [River City Ransom]
5. Bub/Bob [Bubble Bobble]
6. Nathan Spencer [Bionic Commando]
7. Rash/Zitz [Battletoads]
8. Shantae [Shantae]
9. SV-001 Metal Slug [Metal Slug]
10. Kazuma Kiryu [Yakuza]
11. Jill Valentine [Resident Evil]
12. Morrigan [Darkstalkers]
13. Nightmare [Soul Calibur]
14. Viewtiful Joe [Viewtiful Joe]
15. Amaterasu [Okami]
16. Dante [Devil May Cry]
17. Nakoruru [Samurai Shodown]
 

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I mean, it's 1 of 15 characters and ARMS in Smash hasn't been like the most tantalizing thing ever AND Nintendo holds all the cards in regards to information about the character. I can see how it's both just not that readily available and how even people who may even have knowledge wouldn't care too much. The vast majority of people who leak information want some degree of glory out of it, saying which one of fifteen is coming next doesn't really net you much clout to be honest. The fact that maybe even as low as a 1/3rd of those 15 are really reasonable barring a conglomerate situation means you could guess any of those five and be equally right means it's even worse off as information to leak. Are you potentially going to blow a source if you care about that sort of thing or attempt to earn a reputation because you got a 1 in 5 chance that most people expected anyway? I feel like the answer is decidedly no.




Alright, what if you gave this a shot? I genuinely want to see what you come up with in terms of making a list according to those rules as our resident first party supporter.

Edit: Alternatively, I'll augment the rules to where you can include any fighter you want, but you have to pick at least 5 third party characters in addition to your choices.
1st Party
1. Bandana Dee (Kirby)
2. Poochy (Yoshi)
3. The Shake King (Wario)
4. Toxtricity (Pokemon)
5. Helix (ARMS)

3rd Party
6. Amaterasu (Okami)
7. Crash Bandicoot (Crash Bandicoot)
8. Heavy (Team Fortress)

9. Earthworm Jim (Earthworm Jim)
10. Octane (Rocket League)
(Just decided to go with 10 cause 17 is too much.)
 
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