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BOW BEFORE YOUR QUEEN!!!

No seriously, though, the colder Twilight Princess Zelda made a nice contrast with the bubbly Peach, so I did like that better. Just look at them together:
Oooooh. Yeah, she did have a great dynamic with Peach (pretty much all the interactions were pure gold). Although outside of it she did seem to get criticized for not having a personality aside from her weird Egyptian dance lookin' wave. I doubt we'll see her like that again since Twilight Princess Zelda is one of a kind (the other ones off the top of my head are either jovial or demure aside from Wild Zelda, who is more like a fantasy hero like Link, but with an actual character arc).

The move is based on Wario's scatological personality and his general love for toilet humor as seen in numerous game manuals and promotional websites for many of his games, mainly for the Japanese market, as the Western market usually leaves out this trait of Wario's personality. One of the first instances concerning Wario and farting is the Japanese manual for Wario Land II, where Wario mentions that his Hot Wario reaction was not produced "because his fart caught on fire (taken from smash wiki)
Ah so it's like Mega Man's series emblem where it makes sense in Japan, but not overseas.
 

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That's not the part people were taking issue with. You made the comparison of Terry Vs. Nakoruru when talking about protag/mascot first, when Nakoruru isn't even IN Fatal Fury. Of course the protagonist of a series isn't going to be beat out...by a character from a completely different series.

Nintendo decided to put a Fatal Fury character in Smash. There is no Terry Vs. Nakoruru in regards to which Fatal Fury character gets chosen.

I'm not disagreeing that Protag/mascot first seems to be the policy.

I'm disagreeing that Terry vs. Nakoruru is at all a valid comparison to Spring Man vs. Min-Min/Ribbon Girl/Twintelle/etc.
I probably wasn't wording this either but I was also trying to compare Terry vs. Nakoruru with:ultmario:vs.:ultlink:or:ultpikachu:

Obviously Mario would be the first to be chosen if this was the opposite.
 

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Luigi's always been a coward, he just doesn't realize he's extremely brave by reacting to eldritch gods the same way as he'd react to seeing a spider in his cupboard shelves

Oh boy that'd make my meme accurate
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Gwen, no! I thought you were saving this for when we were closer to the proper reveal!
 

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I probably wasn't wording this either but I was also trying to compare Terry vs. Nakoruru with:ultmario:vs.:ultlink:or:ultpikachu:

Obviously Mario would be the first to be chosen if this was the opposite.
Not exactly. Link was the only Nintendo character to crossover into Soul Caliber. Were they to put a Nintendo character in the next King of Fighters game, it'd probably be someone that fits within the world like Little Mac, or more detestably, Lucario.
 

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Not exactly. Link was the only Nintendo character to crossover into Soul Caliber. Were they to put a Nintendo character in the next King of Fighters game, it'd probably be someone that fits within the world like Little Mac, or more detestably, Lucario.
In this case though I'm talking about Smash not an game fighting or not that just gets an guest character.
 
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I don't understand why Sakurai would clarify no more "promotions" will happen (even if it were true), since when does Sakurai narrow down potential DLC candidates with such a broad stroke? Or hint at what characters are going to come out in the future?
 

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So if protagonist/mascot first has been presumably ruled out as you guys supposedly describe?

Minmin's back on the table! **** yeah!
 

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My way of seeing it is this.

I'm almost 100% sure it'll be Spring Man. Like it or not, he gets main character status among the ARMS cast. He's first on the roster. He's the Assist Trophy. His spirit is the first ARMS spirit numerically. He's the one with a villainous copy in Springtron.

The only way I see it going any other way is if the dev team specifically requests someone else, likely Min Min considering they also really like her. But since Nintendo is deciding the line up anyway, I can't realistically see anyone BUT Spring Man.

My go to example is them picking Byleth over Edelgard. Everything people use to justify a different ARMS character (let's say Min Min for consistency) over Spring Man and more could apply to picking Edelgard over Byleth.

Edelgard was, and still is even after Smash, significantly more popular than Byleth. In fact, Dimitri and Claude are too. All three House Leaders are. Min Min is far more popular than Spring Man.

Edelgard is inherently more interesting than Byleth, as Byleth is intentionally a blank silent slate and Sakurai said personality is important. Min Min has a neat backstory involving her family's restaurant while Spring Man is your generic energetic protagonist.

Edelgard is more unique due to a starkly different weapon type and gameplay style, being a heavyweight axe user. Byleth is another sword user, albeit the Sword of the Creator is a whipsword (which ironically enough got UNDERPLAYED in Smash). Min Min has a dragon arm and kicks while Spring Man is basic.

Edelgard was all over the marketing and promotion, just like Min Min after her popularity became evident.

And they still went with Byleth at the end of the day. Not Edelgard. I'd even go as far as saying Edelgard had a better potential chance than any non-Spring Man ARMS character because she's a major player in the game, being at worst the third most important character on the route that focuses on her the least, and literally having the main theme of Three Houses, Edge of Dawn, be about her.

If Edelgard didn't get picked over Byleth despite having a substantially good résumé, what chance does anyone BUT Spring Man have?
 

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Also I remember one of Zelda's Brawl Taunts, the wave, always felt massively out-of-character for her in Brawl and Smash 4.
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Ooh, don't remind me of that. They could have gone with literally anything else. Her tictory poses and the up taunt were also pretty bad as well. Zelda really just needed a taunt buff (among other buffs...)

Can't say I'm a fan of the new one either since it's too Peach-y. Better,yes, but still not my favored way. At least the winposes are better. Seriously, was a regal prayer or something too much to ask?
Oooooh. Yeah, she did have a great dynamic with Peach (pretty much all the interactions were pure gold). Although outside of it she did seem to get criticized for not having a personality aside from her weird Egyptian dance lookin' wave. I doubt we'll see her like that again since Twilight Princess Zelda is one of a kind (the other ones off the top of my head are either jovial or demure aside from Wild Zelda, who is more like a fantasy hero like Link, but with an actual character arc).
I actually liked the cold, distant Zelda. She really felt like a queen, as opposed to all of the airhead princesses we usually see. The other thing I really liked was that TP dispensed with the romance thing - Zelda and Link met exactly three times during the game, and only during the last one during the final boss did she see him as a human. There was no indication of romance, it was just her and her kingdom (queendom?).

BotW Zelda annoyed me a bit, but I got used to her. Definitely could have used a better VA, but I liked her whole story of actually being a failure until she unleashed her power. There were actually a lot of well developed characters there, particularly Revali who you couldn't hate even though he was a total ****. I'm really intrigued to see what BotW2 holds - hopefully you'll get to play as both Link and Zelda or each will have a different campaign or something (like Leon/Claire in RE2)
 

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But Opossum. The possibility of Liu Kang, Cassie, Raiden or Sub-Zero over Scorpion or other Soulcalibur characters of Nightmare...You know despite being the faces and mascots of their games...
You're comparing apples and oranges. In those games the mascot is not the main character. In ARMS the mascot is also the main character. Spring Man had the AT for a reason, the AT is evidence that Nintendo/Sakurai view Spring Man as the most important character of ARMS. He had a trophy while the rest of the cast didn't.
 
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My way of seeing it is this.

I'm almost 100% sure it'll be Spring Man. Like it or not, he gets main character status among the ARMS cast. He's first on the roster. He's the Assist Trophy. His spirit is the first ARMS spirit numerically. He's the one with a villainous copy in Springtron.

The only way I see it going any other way is if the dev team specifically requests someone else, likely Min Min considering they also really like her. But since Nintendo is deciding the line up anyway, I can't realistically see anyone BUT Spring Man.

My go to example is them picking Byleth over Edelgard. Everything people use to justify a different ARMS character (let's say Min Min for consistency) over Spring Man and more could apply to picking Edelgard over Byleth.

Edelgard was, and still is even after Smash, significantly more popular than Byleth. In fact, Dimitri and Claude are too. All three House Leaders are. Min Min is far more popular than Spring Man.

Edelgard is inherently more interesting than Byleth, as Byleth is intentionally a blank silent slate and Sakurai said personality is important. Min Min has a neat backstory involving her family's restaurant while Spring Man is your generic energetic protagonist.

Edelgard is more unique due to a starkly different weapon type and gameplay style, being a heavyweight axe user. Byleth is another sword user, albeit the Sword of the Creator is a whipsword (which ironically enough got UNDERPLAYED in Smash). Min Min has a dragon arm and kicks while Spring Man is basic.

Edelgard was all over the marketing and promotion, just like Min Min after her popularity became evident.

And they still went with Byleth at the end of the day. Not Edelgard. I'd even go as far as saying Edelgard had a better potential chance than any non-Spring Man ARMS character because she's a major player in the game, being at worst the third most important character on the route that focuses on her the least, and literally having the main theme of Three Houses, Edge of Dawn, be about her.

If Edelgard didn't get picked over Byleth despite having a substantially good résumé, what chance does anyone BUT Spring Man have?
I pretty much agree that Spring Man isn't the most offensive thing Smash has ever done. On the basis of "since we literally cannot control which ARMS character can be chosen, it doesn't seem like a slap in the ass." Like, if they did a Smash Ballot type thing and said "the highest result will be chosen," then I'd be extremely disappointed, but that's not the case. But like, since this isn't a democracy thing, it's not a shocker Spring Man will be chosen as the ARMS representative. Plus I'm just not inherently invested in ARMS to begin with lmao.

However, while I meme Spring Man will be in for the joke of it, I don't think he's inherently a lock. I mean, if they wanted to choose the mascot, they would have just said Spring Man back in March and hype us up with some cg or animated trailer. Byleth was more obvious. Of course they're choosing the player character you actively control in every route. We've already had an established pattern of avatars being the primary FE newcomer choice.

Spring Man doesn't have this pattern. In fact, he'd actively have to break a pattern to be in (assist, mii costume, and spirit upgrade), and that's what makes him more ambiguous. We literally have no precedent with this.
 
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My way of seeing it is this.

I'm almost 100% sure it'll be Spring Man. Like it or not, he gets main character status among the ARMS cast. He's first on the roster. He's the Assist Trophy. His spirit is the first ARMS spirit numerically. He's the one with a villainous copy in Springtron.

The only way I see it going any other way is if the dev team specifically requests someone else, likely Min Min considering they also really like her. But since Nintendo is deciding the line up anyway, I can't realistically see anyone BUT Spring Man.

My go to example is them picking Byleth over Edelgard. Everything people use to justify a different ARMS character (let's say Min Min for consistency) over Spring Man and more could apply to picking Edelgard over Byleth.

Edelgard was, and still is even after Smash, significantly more popular than Byleth. In fact, Dimitri and Claude are too. All three House Leaders are. Min Min is far more popular than Spring Man.

Edelgard is inherently more interesting than Byleth, as Byleth is intentionally a blank silent slate and Sakurai said personality is important. Min Min has a neat backstory involving her family's restaurant while Spring Man is your generic energetic protagonist.

Edelgard is more unique due to a starkly different weapon type and gameplay style, being a heavyweight axe user. Byleth is another sword user, albeit the Sword of the Creator is a whipsword (which ironically enough got UNDERPLAYED in Smash). Min Min has a dragon arm and kicks while Spring Man is basic.

Edelgard was all over the marketing and promotion, just like Min Min after her popularity became evident.

And they still went with Byleth at the end of the day. Not Edelgard. I'd even go as far as saying Edelgard had a better potential chance than any non-Spring Man ARMS character because she's a major player in the game, being at worst the third most important character on the route that focuses on her the least, and literally having the main theme of Three Houses, Edge of Dawn, be about her.

If Edelgard didn't get picked over Byleth despite having a substantially good résumé, what chance does anyone BUT Spring Man have?
Part of it is like, the circumstances of the reveal. Like when Byleth was dropped it wasn’t “A new character from Fire Emblem: The 3 Houses is coming to Smash!” it was just Byleth. The fact that they went out of their way to say it is a character from ARMS we just won’t say who is hella sus, it’s definitely gonna be a little more than just “lol it’s the main character gottem”

And I know the common argument for this is they’re trying to pull some Rian Johnson **** and subvert expectations but like bruh why start NOW what’s different about now that they suddenly want to start subverting our expectations. Like before Terry that could’ve done “A new character from SNK!” and his trailer would’ve honestly been perfect for an announcement like that.
 

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Ooh, don't remind me of that. They could have gone with literally anything else. Her tictory poses and the up taunt were also pretty bad as well. Zelda really just needed a taunt buff (among other buffs...)

Can't say I'm a fan of the new one either since it's too Peach-y. Better,yes, but still not my favored way. At least the winposes are better. Seriously, was a regal prayer or something too much to ask?
Yeah, the more dynamic victory animations of Ultimate likely would have fixed people's complaints of the previous version. Looking back, who thought it was a good idea to just have the camera pan around a static pose?

There were actually a lot of well developed characters there, particularly Revali who you couldn't hate even though he was a total ****.
False. I hate him. I dunno if he's better in the DLC, but from what I've seen of him he has 0 redeeming qualities. I mean, you go to save him, and he's all like "This would be cake for me if I was alive, but I suppose you might be able to help me out." Like, dude. You're dead. Drop the attitude or I'll leave you in Gannon goop.
 
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Part of it is like, the circumstances of the reveal. Like when Byleth was dropped it wasn’t “A new character from Fire Emblem: The 3 Houses is coming to Smash!” it was just Byleth. The fact that they went out of their way to say it is a character from ARMS we just won’t say who is hella sus, it’s definitely gonna be a little more than just “lol it’s the main character gottem”

And I know the common argument for this is they’re trying to pull some Rian Johnson **** and subvert expectations but like bruh why start NOW what’s different about now that they suddenly want to start subverting our expectations. Like before Terry that could’ve done “A new character from SNK!” and his trailer would’ve honestly been perfect for an announcement like that.
Personally I think it'd be very in character for Nintendo to have it be Spring Man with the "surprise" aspect being that he went from Assist to Playable.
 

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I think the best part is Scorpion was declared in-universe the Hero of Mortal Kombat in one storyline(Mortal Kombat Deception).

I expect him regardless over anyone else(maybe Sub-Zero, another key mascot, is possible) in Mortal Kombat because he's not just the mascot, but he represents the gameplay extremely well too. Mascots don't need to be protagonists either. Just being a main character is also important.

Likewise, Fulgore and Nightmare are the pretty obvious characters too, being not just the mascots, but are very easy to represent the core gameplay. "Protagonist first" can sometimes work, but it's not always cause they're the player character. Villager is the best example of where the player character is the best move possible to represent the core gameplay. Hero's an odd one since the thing that makes it work best is the alts, not simply the moveset, where the mascot could do practically all the same moves(just not without a lot more work due to more animations needed. Capabilities is not remotely the issue between them)>

More or less, it's why I think "Protagonist first" is misleading. It's more "A Main character first", which fits a lot more accurately. Main characters don't have to be heroes or protagonists alone. They can be a villain or an antagonist and still be key to the game they're representing. Pikachu is an unique one in that regard. It's absolutely a main character, but is in no way the protagonist of the series either(besides that, it was more loosely based upon the anime version, where it's more like an extra to Ash, who is the definite protagonist there).

I do think sometimes mascots have an advantage(Scorpion, Nightmare, Fulgore) because that's who the companies want to push and they're the most recognizable. But it's also a matter of context. As I noted, Villager is the one that's the most logical to represent the core gameplay overall. Nook nor Isabelle are strictly about that alone. Nook is actually a lot more about that than Isabelle too.

It's best to say that it's not nearly as strict of a rule and it's a bit more "broad" in some ways. Sometimes the core gameplay is represented strangely, like with Shulk and some inaccurate Monado Arts. Other times they get the core idea down with Hero overall(and technically the equipment factor via alts, something that Slime couldn't actually do in a twist), by showing off multiple games at once.
 

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Personally I think it'd be very in character for Nintendo to have it be Spring Man with the "surprise" aspect being that he went from Assist to Playable.
If that were the case wouldn’t they have gone “an assist trophy is being upgraded to playable! Who’s it gonna be? Find out in June!”
 

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I do have to wonder what the ramifications are if Sakurai talks about Spring Man (if he’s the pick) and says something that framed him as a “special case” with a character who was previously an NPC.

I’m not saying that to build up some case as to why, “Scol is right”, but I’m just curious about the impact of a statement like that toward the overall fanbase. Seems like that would alter conversations going forward.

To be honest, I don’t actually expect him to say anything along those lines because it would rule out many characters, which it seems it not usually his style. But I just think about the aftermath of something like that and just...oof.
If the character is Spring Man I'm honestly expecting Sakurai addressing the AT situation of the character or something. I don't mean he would talk a lot about it and say "expect more promotions!" or "don't expect more promotions!", he wouldn't do that, but I'd expect him to reference AT Spring Man in some way, like "we originally thought of including him in Ultimate's base roster, but it wasn't possible, so we decided to make him an assist trophy back then". Not much more.
But yeah, if the fighter is Spring Man and Sakurai addresses his inclusion as a special case in some way, that will bring a ton of discussions lol.
 
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If that were the case wouldn’t they have gone “an assist trophy is being upgraded to playable! Who’s it gonna be? Find out in June!”
This is the company that was shocked to find out Star Fox fans wanted more Star Fox instead of gimmicks, Metroid fans not wanting multiplayer focused games, Paper Mario fans liking Paper Mario, etc
 

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This is the company that was shocked to find out Star Fox fans wanted more Star Fox instead of gimmicks, Metroid fans not wanting multiplayer focused games, Paper Mario fans liking Paper Mario, etc
Yes, Nintendo isn’t the brightest some times, but that’s not a valid argument my g. The announcement of the guess that character is ARMS related, so it should have nothing to do with the reveal being assist trophy related.
 

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I think Nintendo may be very aware of fans arguing over ATs and Spirits, as people do it on sites such as Twitter and stuff where they could easily see it; I’m sure these arguments have been in the replies of some of their tweets, too.

This could be why they decided to hold off on the character reveal even if it’s just Spring Man, as some sort of tease/surprise thing; at the same time, though, even if it’s not Spring Man, him still being in the image kinda implies they honestly don’t care imo and it could still be a Spirit character.

Of course it could just be another silly decision none of us understand but may not mind anyway. (or maybe a virus-related delay happened and caused them to decide this? I know development itself is going well but idk)

Personally, even ignoring promotions, I think I’d like Spring Man the most, though I’d still like Min Min and a few others.
 
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Question: if we were getting a pure SEGA-created rep (as in, not created by Platinum Games, like :ultbayonetta: or ATLUS, like :ultjoker:), who would you rather have: Sakura Shinguji from Sakura Wars, or Axel Stone from Streets of Rage?
Sakurai would be like “it is more important that the character is a dolphin than it is for them to be recognizable.”

 
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Question: if we were getting a pure SEGA-created rep (as in, not created by Platinum Games, like :ultbayonetta: or ATLUS, like :ultjoker:), who would you rather have: Sakura Shinguji from Sakura Wars, or Axel Stone from Streets of Rage?
Ristar, Nights, Alex Kidd, Ai Ai, Tails, Knuckles, and Eggman.
Edit: And Akira from Virtua Fighter.
 
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Question: if we were getting a pure SEGA-created rep (as in, not created by Platinum Games, like :ultbayonetta: or ATLUS, like :ultjoker:), who would you rather have: Sakura Shinguji from Sakura Wars, or Axel Stone from Streets of Rage?
I don't have any attachment to Sakura, and I've played a lot of Streets of Rage when I was younger. I'd probably pick Axel Stone. For him I'd like to have an Streets of Rage 4 alt, which honestly is my favorite design of the character (probably an unpopular opinion lol).

Probably most of the people will answer Axel because IIRC the Sakura Wars game that just came out is the only game in the series that has been localized outside of Japan, or at least one of the few games in the series with that honor. But if Sakura manages to be DLC I wouldn't be against her or anything, I think she's cool.
 
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Question: if we were getting a pure SEGA-created rep (as in, not created by Platinum Games, like :ultbayonetta: or ATLUS, like :ultjoker:), who would you rather have: Sakura Shinguji from Sakura Wars, or Axel Stone from Streets of Rage?
Sakura because I prefer mechs over another brawler

Sakurai would be like “it is more important that the character is a dolphin than it is for them to be recognizable.”
Time to establish what happen after Ecco 2 by having Ecco wear a exoskeleton created by the atlanteans that lets him walk on land to fight off vortex aliens.

Probably most of the people will answer Axel because IIRC the Sakura Wars game that just came out is the only game in the series that has been localized outside of Japan.
But V came out in the west
if you want a good time you can straight up emulate it on PCXS2


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Yes, Nintendo isn’t the brightest some times, but that’s not a valid argument my g. The announcement of the guess that character is ARMS related, so it should have nothing to do with the reveal being assist trophy related.
That's the thing, it's entirely in character of Nintendo to hype the **** out of something only for it to be the most disappointing option available. I don't trust their judgement on saying "Hey everyone! Let's play Guess Who for 3 months, only then will you learn what you spent money on 2 months ago!" Nintendo's one of the most ass backwards gaming companies to be at the top with decades of evidence, so it's just preparing for the worst possible outcome
 

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That's the thing, it's entirely in character of Nintendo to hype the **** out of something only for it to be the most disappointing option available. I don't trust their judgement on saying "Hey everyone! Let's play Guess Who for 3 months, only then will you learn what you spent money on 2 months ago!" Nintendo's one of the most ass backwards gaming companies to be at the top with decades of evidence, so it's just preparing for the worst possible outcome
I disagree. Spring Man would be the MOST hype, as he would single-handedly break the Assist Trophy argument for DLC.
He'd probably also have alts for Ribbon Girl, Ninjara, and Min Min, so everyone's happy.
 

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That's the thing, it's entirely in character of Nintendo to hype the **** out of something only for it to be the most disappointing option available. I don't trust their judgement on saying "Hey everyone! Let's play Guess Who for 3 months, only then will you learn what you spent money on 2 months ago!" Nintendo's one of the most ass backwards gaming companies to be at the top with decades of evidence, so it's just preparing for the worst possible outcome
I get your concerns but bro you’ve got like PTSD or some ****. You’re saying Nintendo always disappoints so you’re speculating the character has to be the absolutely worst / most disappointing possible option, always. It’s hilarious yeah, but that doesn’t mean it’s always going to happen. I’m keeping my expectations low because I know how Nintendo can be just like you do, but it never guarantees anything
 

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If that were the case wouldn’t they have gone “an assist trophy is being upgraded to playable! Who’s it gonna be? Find out in June!”
Probably because they wanted people talking about ARMS again. This reveal did coincide with ARMS being made free for a limited time. Also saying the character is a AT upgrade would cause a lot of people to get really salty when they find out it’s not who they wanted (especially from Waluigi fans).
 

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…Okay, Ecco I get as a joke, but I specifically gave the choice of Sakura and Axel. If I was asking about SEGA characters in general, I would’ve left out that choice.
Oh. Well, then lest Lesley castrate me for picking the dude, I pick Axel simply out of recognition.
 

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Question: if we were getting a pure SEGA-created rep (as in, not created by Platinum Games, like :ultbayonetta: or ATLUS, like :ultjoker:), who would you rather have: Sakura Shinguji from Sakura Wars, or Axel Stone from Streets of Rage?
I never played Sakura Wars nor am I interested in it. I did play Streets of Rage though and Streets of Rage 4 is the sickest **** ever. I'll pick Axel Stone.
 

Michael the Spikester

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Whelp so back to Spring Man then eh?

This debate was good while it lasted then. Protagonist/Mascot first rule still reigns supreme!
 
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What's nice is that having not played that much of ARMS is that I can't say there's anyone character that would disappointment me. I mean I would be most amused by Lola Pop, and Spring Man would intriguing given the speculation about Assist Trophies, but I wasn't expecting any additional first parties besides Pokemon and more Fire Emblem so whatever they show will be a pleasant reveal regardless.
 

MisterHollywood

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Probably because they wanted people talking about ARMS again. This reveal did coincide with ARMS being made free for a limited time. Also saying the character is a AT upgrade would cause a lot of people to get really salty when they find out it’s not who they wanted (especially from Waluigi fans).
If it’s Spring Man I’m pretty sure the salt about people’s favorites not getting upgraded would happen anyway. but just to look at your argument, if it just ended up being springman right, they could’ve just announced springman and then announced the 10 day free trial and I’m sure it would’ve had the same effect. Idk why keeping the character a mystery would generate a different effect. If the goal is to get people into arms again, both work. And if you’re gonna say they wanted to get people taking about ARMS for a hot minute, showing off Springman without his moveset would do the job just fine as well.

look, I’m not saying it’s not springman, I think he’s actually incredibly likely, but he’s not 100% the arms character imo
 
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Question: if we were getting a pure SEGA-created rep (as in, not created by Platinum Games, like :ultbayonetta: or ATLUS, like :ultjoker:), who would you rather have: Sakura Shinguji from Sakura Wars, or Axel Stone from Streets of Rage?
Kazuma Kiryu from Yakuza.
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And that's one of his victory poses
 
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