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I would legit love a mode in Smash where you pick an AT when choosing your character, and you could activate that AT whenever you wanted.
I agree with all of this. It's not something you can just retroactively add to the game (that's not really what I was proposing anyway), especially since each character would have to be balanced to accommodate for assists as well since, at its core, the idea boils down to giving every fighter access to a custom move that any other fighter can also use so you have to make sure there aren't any broken combinations.
I think the best way would be to add a timed cooldown to it. It's easier for players to manage (all they have to keep track of is whether or not they can use it rather than how many uses are left) and allows for them to not be too spamable while still allowing the ones that give you weaker benefits to be used more often. For example, an Assist Trophy that just gives you a bit more stage control should be usable more often than one who gives you a KO move.
See I can agree with you SOMEWHAT on this point. If you could equip your assist trophy, that would be a cool concept. HOWEVER, smash bros isn’t necessarily a hardcore fighter. It’s a party game. So of course assist trophies are going to be random. That’s the point when it’s a party game bud.
just try and breath a bit, it’s not that bad. Smell the roses and just turn them off If you don’t like themheck, I hardly play with items on LOL.
Going complete randomness doesn't make the game fun, it makes it more frustrating. There's a major reason why Animal Crossing amiibo Festival and Mario Party 10 were hated so much besides them existing (like how at the end of the Mario Party 10 board despite going through the entire thing while being chased by Bowser you get a 1 in 3 chance of actually winning). There needs to be a proper balance of consistency and randomness, and seeing how there are many Assist Trophies that actively harm the user makes the entire item annoying to deal with since great chance it will backfire on you. Having characters people have been asking for to be tied to such a terrible item does a complete disservice to them, people want Skull Kid to be in Smash Bros but nobody wants to see him appear since he'll change your entire control layout. This is all they will ever be good for in Smash Bros, a 15 second item tied to other characters who would cause terrible effects. For a game that's all about celebrating video games and it's characters it sure do find a great way to treat a lot of them horrible.
Oh this easy
Did you just unironically suggest that older Mario Party games are less luck based than the current ones?
If we somehow ended up getting echo fighters as DLC, Octolings would be my first choice. Don't know how they'd work the eight new colors of ink out though.
The only Assist Trophies that can directly harm you are visual screws like the Nintendog, Skull Kid (which is pretty faithful to the character), and blast zone movers like the Squid Sisters. The former two harm everyone proportionally, so there are really only two that can screw you over specifically, but it can also screw up your opponent just as much instead. I wouldn't say that any of them are inherently detrimental to the user specifically.
And the fact that the Wii U never got a mainline Animal Crossing.
I can believe that Rayman could be part of Fighters' Pass 2 (partially thanks to the ARMS character inclusion.)
Have you seen how terrible Mario Party 10 is? Yeah the older Mario Party are random but it knows how to properly use randomness with certain consistency in order for it to be a fun experience. Mario Party 10 is just a bunch of randomness but not really knowing how to use it so they just slap it onto everything which lead to a miserable experience.
So... like Smash.
nintendo has built an entire lineup of party games ranging from mario strikers to mario party to mario kart that use rng for players enjoyment very effectively. most of the rng can be controlled by the player if they know how. The fact is you are giving an opinion when these games sales tell a completely different story. There are not "man"y assist trophies that harm the user there are less than 5 i tihnk out of 70ish ATs in the game.
I know this is what you're alluding to, but it's not the randomness that ruins Mario Party 10. It's the fact that it's Candy Land, but everyone moves with you when you draw a card and arbitrary categories decide who wins. Assist Trophies don't have this effect. While some of them can turn the tide of a match similarly to Smash Balls, Poké Balls, and the Gust Bellows, none of them are a straight win button, since they are either avoidable, or they affect everyone, and a lot of them can even be killed if you know how to approach them.
It would interesting to see how the competitive community reacted and debated on the use of such a mode/mechanic for sure.
As a side mode, not a chance, but as a main mechanic, I think think they'd be fine with it as long as long as few or none of them are easy "haha you die" buttons.
...Okay, let's be fair. Gust Bellows is extremely difficult to get past and is practically a win button.
me and the boys using devil every stock
Yeah, I suppose so. The only counterplay in the hands of a human player is that any players that aren't in the affect radius can smack you.
It doesn't help you can move very fast with it. The only downside is... you can't double jump. But it has such range on the size that doesn't as much matter.
There's Nightmare who turns the screen black, there's Riki who buffs everyone, and there's Divil who moves the camera around.
Well, I suppose not. Because the FGC would never use them.
Really? Cause that's the reason nobody I know likes that series.
It looks like you missed a lot of the clarification. Nobody likes RNG is single player. Multiplayer is a different story and a big reason people kept playing. It kept it fresh and where it's more about fun than just "winning".
The screen screws (Nightmare, Nintendog, and most of what Skull Kid does) hurts everyone, not just you. They're not favoable, but they're not a detriment to you and thus aren't really a punishment for being unlucky. Riki's Happy Happy Time may help everyone, but in doing so, they don't really help anyone since everyone gets the same buff. Aside from that, You Can Do It! is proximity based, so you want to go for it (or the items pulled by Yoink!), you could instead get tripped, frozen, or put to sleep. He's more helpful to you than anyone else. Devil and the Squid Sisters are the only ones who punish you for being unlucky but it's not a guarantee that they'll do this since it's not a guarantee that they'll put you in a less favorable position.
speaking of pokeballs, is there a point to Mew anymore?You know someone’s just looking to grind their axe when they’ll complain over multiple posts about the functionality of an item but only gripe about one of the two items that functions that way.
That's the most redundant way to end a statement, no ****. There's nothing that's objectively, except for SSBU since people will defend every single decision that was ever made and because it's some unholy sin to think that this game might have made some bad decisions. You defended Nightmare as an Assist Trophy, a damn NPC that turns the screen black for 15 seconds. In the eyes of some many of you Sakurai can't do anything wrong. Makes me wonder why he should even try when he can just half ass the game and everyone will just eat it all up.
people be using ad hominem and thinking they win the argument
Man if I had the level of determination you have about hating ATs every day literally all my problems would cease to exist
I mean, Mew was kinda pointless in almost every Smash game asides from Brawl (and maybe Smash 4?)
it would've been cool if getting mew was an alternative way to unlock mewtwo in melee. way better than playing for 20 hours in a single match.
