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Mega Man: Zero
The only Piranha Plant with identity is Petey who has a different body compared to other Piranha Plants unlike Vivi who's literally the default Black Mage but with an identity alongside being a fanfavourite character.
RaidenBlaze, Shadow, Omega, Eggman, Metal Sonic, Tails and KnucklesProto Man, Bass, Zero, Vile, Axl and SigmaChun-Li, Poison, Dudley, Makoto, Blanka, Zangief, Juri, Bison, Rashid and 5SethCecil, Kain, Terra, Tifa, Barret, Vivi, Kuja, Tidus, Yuna and LightningJeanne, Rodin, Baldur and Masked LumenShanoa, Alucard, Soma, Charlotte, Sypha and DraculaErik, Jessica, 5 Protag and fem!ErdrickKyo, Iori, Rock, Geese, Leona, Nakoruru, Fio, K-, Mature, Vice and Rugal
All those Megaman characters and you couldn’t include Roll and Tron Bonne despite their history of appearing in crossover fighting games.
But Vivi from TTYD isn't a Piranha Plant.
Dude I want Tron Bonne too. She would be awesome with her mach and Servbots at her side.
How about two arguments? Building and mining. Those are the two core fundamentals of Minecraft which make it what it is and what it was all about since it's creation.
Samus isn't a good comparison because
Wow! Splendid work! Makes me want to see Kat get in even more. I think she and Kratos are Sony reps that'd be awesome to be in Smash.
Makes lot of sense. Among the last NES icons yet to not be in Smash and Tecmo has an fantastic relationship with Nintendo especially playing a part in helping them and Sakurai make Smash.
what kind of phones do y'all have because I exclusively post on mobile and mobile does collapse the gifs into quotes. Smashboards potato version. I've never understood that argument. I'm not saying more spoiler tags would've been fine but the reaction was ****ty as hell and off topic and the "mobile users" argument feels like a boogeyman.
Squall's gimmick is being the best looking guy of the roster
Having a character in a fighting game who can't bend their limbs will also look terrible, can't really make them look that dynamic when compare to all the other playable characters. Plus with some effort you can have a Mii Costume just be a bunch of blocks without them bending limbs.
Idk man the game already has deliberstely blocky animations, this really isn't an issue for Steve as seen with Pit's Hammer animation, with a hopping 2 whole frames of animation when standing still.
They’d have to make a new type of mii or put in extra programming for that to work, effectively making it so they may as well just make him a new character. They could probably keep the limbs stiff on a basic mii but idk how weapons would be held without them disconnecting from the arms assuming the miis are coded like a model template.
Steve doesn’t have to mine stages, he can just place blocks and mine them and use an entire arsenal of other items (the various tools and weapons, minecarts, fireworks, ender pearls, etc.), maybe craft some. They could easily balance block-placing by limiting the amount he can have onstage, how much damage they can take before breaking (they could take damage if a fighter gets hit against them, too), and maybe a timer on each block before it disappears. This still lets players be creative with set-ups but it wouldn’t be OP.
Wow, a few days ago I said wanted a stance based character, looks like you had the answer! Also I’m glad you went in detail with the normals, those are often overlooked.
Wasn't the narrative behind that "Nintendo tried getting Sora but Disney said no, likely for Smash 4"? I wish it was a disconfirmation but it is indeed a sign that Disney's stingier than NoA
A big ass post with lots of embeds can mess with loading the page a lot, even on a fairly high end PC. It's definitely a valid concern.
Technically speaking, R.O.B can’t bend his limbs
KatKit
. You went in deep and made a moveset so intricate and well designed that it made me want to see Kat in Smash as well. Just yesterday I was discussing with someone the possibility of a character that could change the mechanics of jumping and floating, and right just now it's a core part of the moveset you made.
Yeah, as a general rule, if someone puts a ton of effort into a post, a response that isn't inherently supportive should take a similar amount of effort to warrant existing.
My biased side would throw in Eric for Castlevania as well.The only Piranha Plant with identity is Petey who has a different body compared to other Piranha Plants unlike Vivi who's literally the default Black Mage but with an identity alongside being a fanfavourite character.
Anyway as for 'if third parties were as well off as first parties' my picks would be...
I mean, I haven't played Bloodlines yet and Eric isn't playable in Portrait of Ruin despite being a rather important character there (Yet Richter and Maria are playable for some ****in reason).Yeah, as a general rule, if someone puts a ton of effort into a post, a response that isn't inherently supportive should take a similar amount of effort to warrant existing.
Like, literally all it takes to make note of a post's size is looking at it. Pointing out that it's a big post and then not saying anything meaningful about it is useless spam to +1 your post count.
Especially since Kat's really cool and to undermine the post like that is just kinda ****ty. It's a text based forum, people. Read.
My biased side would throw in Eric for Castlevania as well.
Where is Steve going to get the blocks from? If he has them from the start that entirely defeats the purpose of mining for them because he can already place them down as blocks.
Honestly we have pretty similar tastes lmao. The only ones I'd personally add if I were going full bias mode would be Eric, Dhalsim, Rab, and Haru lmao. Long range lancer, stretchy limbs and yoga fire, magical Scottish grandpa, and a lady with an axe and a grenade launcher.
No one is really mentioning it here from what I can see and that was a rumour from the start of Feb. Everyone pretty much established that it was just him speculating as either shortly before or after he straight up said he predicts either Sora or Chief so unless he had a bug in his ear and was being alerted real time for new info which coincidentally happened right after/ before he said he predicted Sora or Chief and also was chill enough to not give any visual indication as to being given the info. The prediction excuse that people were using around the time the podcast came out was definitely a fairly weak one. Either way I am really legitimately curious as to where you saw people bring it up for it to be warranted mentioning?
An idea I had a while ago is that Steve has access to a sword and a pickaxe which can be swapped at any time, the sword does more damage than the axe but the axe gets you materials when you hit people with it, down B is a crafting table and shows a menu for blocks or equipment upgrades, meaning players get to choose between stage control with the blocks, more power by upgrading the sword or getting more materials on hit by uograding the axe, the upgrades and higher tiers of blocks can be very useful but obvioisly take more resources and you lose equipment upgrades when you lose a stock, all the blocks have different properties but gravity will still influence them
He could mine them to get them back, or they could drop from opponents and into his inventory when he attacks them.
Cutie Gwen
mentioned though, they could just all be influenced by gravity tbh so they really will have to be touching the stage. Really like that crafting idea btw.
: Raiden, Naked Snake (echo): Eggman, Tails, Knuckles, Shadow (echo): Proto Man (echo), Dr. Wily, X, Zero: Ms. Pac-Man (echo): , Chun-Li, Alex, Juri, Rashid (one rep per mainline game): Cecil, Terra, Zack (echo), Squall: Jeanne (echo): , Alucard, Soma Cruz, Shanoa, Dracula: Yu, Minato (assuming SMT characters are off the table): Slime, Madason, Jessica, Erik: Gruntilda: Andy, Joe, Mai, Geese (assuming just Fatal Fury is on the table)
Steve as a ROB echo confirmed.
"Can we please have a pro-Steve echo chamber?"
How's that "stop making half-asses, tired pseudo arguments to pass your dislike as a legitimate point against a character's chances" is the same thing as building an echo chamber for you?
This is the same guy that screams that people are delusional normies for thinking Incineroar's alright at worst, why bother argue
No it’s more like “can yall please actually have legitimate arguments if you’re gonna pass your opinion as fact?” All the arguments that “go against” Steve are poorly-researched arguments that are entirely opinionated anyway, especially the moveset one since it should be pretty clear he has a huge arsenal to pick from. And when Steve is brought up, it’s already an echo chamber of Steve supporters/people who are open to him trying to explain how he’d work with Mojang’s work itself already disproving the arguments people have against him, and the echo chamber is always caused by the people against him.
Hey, I wouldn't be complaining if he was a semi-clone instead. Though I don't see any reason why there can't be two Echo Fighters for one base character. I mean, Melee Mario had two clones in Luigi and Dr. Mario so...
I don't consider them as a part of the essentials, but Roll and Tron would both make my list if we were expanding even further. I'd also throw in Lan & Mega Man.exe (though Lan wouldn't actually do any fighting).
I think the reason some people put them in abnormally high regard is because there is a character in Smash. There's this tendency to defend every character (except Fire Emblem I guess) as if it was SUPER OBVIOUS the character should be in. Like everyone immediately circles the wagon the minute Sakurai adds anything. I feel thats the same with Terry. This is why people got upset when they said "Who's that". It's a legitimate issue with having an SNK character and the only thing apologist can do is to act shocked an elevate SNK to this ungodly level.
There's been no stage DLC separated from characters. In fact, all the DLC were modes, patches, a single bonus character(more have a very tiny chance of coming), and full character packs. It's not all that likely. We probably are going those 6 and they'll do nothing more like their intentions currently are.
To be fair, you don't need the stages to be mine-able. Steve could just have an inventory where he can place blocks and then have a pickaxe to mine those blocks. He also would be limited in blocks. Of course they won't allow him to have twenty blocks so he can surround himself or build an impossibly tall wall. At the most they will give him about 5 blocks he can put down and if ledge blocking is an issue, they can have the blocks be easily destroyed or have the ledge still be grab-able.
Eh, I'd be fine with it and I think the moveset can be done well, but most of what I've seen so far from fanmade movesets hasn't impressed me. So I'm neutral on Steve, really.
