Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Evil Trapezium]

Did someone say red karate man?!

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But we already have Ryu and Ken...

 

[Deleted member]

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[Firox]

To be completly fair ... Sakurai really seem to have something against Spin Off that aren't Mario, be it Pokemon and everything that is Mystery Dungeon, Pokemon Rangers, or Pokken, there is none of that in Smash, not even a song
Zelda is the same, Hyrule Warriors didn't even get a single track desepite having one of the best remixes the series ever produced, so ... I don't know if they would pull in the incarnation of a character from that game, when they even refuse to put a JPEG from that game in Smash

Though you're right, HW Impa slap, but every character slap in this game TBH, so it's not like it make her more special than the rest of the possible Zelda rep haha

LOL I guess that's true. Even Tingle was kicking ass in that game. Hm, I wonder why Sakurai so against spin-offs? I think that severely limits the creative potential of a lot of different characters, especially Zelda ones since we rarely see anyone besides Link or Ganondorf in combat. I guess if we couldn't get Impa, Urbosa could be a pretty cool, modernly relevant Zelda character to add. She's got a sword and shield and everything.

 

[Deleted member]

No, I haven't. Dynasty Warriors and it's reskins don't interest me. Also they aren't going to pull anything from a Warriors spinoff for Impa when a quick clone job is an option.

Sadly, I highly doubt Impa only because she really gained traction in Hyrule Warriors. She's very original there and it stuck with a lot of people. She plays very quickly but wields long and heavy weapons, which would make her stand out from Sheik who's just very quick and hits light.

Now I doubt Hyrule Warriors stook out enough for Nintendo to choose from that game--let alone--Impa as a newcomer, but she'd be cool.

 

[MattX20]

just like the pain, it will never end

I doubt it will be endless.

 

[Deleted member]

I doubt it will be endless.

not if i have anything to say about it

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Sakurai count the Fire Emblem mobile game as good enough to put in Smash? Or am I missing some serious FE lore and it's somehow canon enough to not be called a spinoff?
I just remember some confusion over how Three Houses being called FE17 rather than FE16 in the wake of the Byleth reveal.

 

[Deleted member]

not if i have anything to say about it

What if we get BOTW 2 news? What then, Ms. Faygo Shill?

 

[HansShotFirst20]

I'm holding out for some sort of Ganon/Ganondorf fotm to be added as a BotW 2 rep. Granted, we know next to nothing about this game, so it could be a character we've never even seen yet -- and the fact that FPv2's complementary Mii costume is from BotW doesn't give me high hopes for a Zelda rep this pass, but the Nintendo fan in me hopes that Nintendo gives Zelda a character in this pass instead of Pokemon or something.

I'd still accept Waluigi over a Zelda rep tho. 'haha funny meme plumber' is the only reason i will give

 

[Zero Suit Violet]

LOL I guess that's true. Even Tingle was kicking ass in that game. Hm, I wonder why Sakurai so against spin-offs? I think that severely limits the creative potential of a lot of different characters, especially Zelda ones since we rarely see anyone besides Link or Ganondorf in combat. I guess if we couldn't get Impa, Urbosa could be a pretty cool, modernly relevant Zelda character to add. She's got a sword and shield and everything.

... To be completly honest, I made several Zelda moveset, and while some of them inspire themselves in some ways from Hyrule Warriors, they are mostly based on their canon counterpart, my Midna one specifically only have like .. One move from HW, and it was just the adaptation of another one of her powers really haha, so it's completly possible to do, because Hyrule Warriors didn't "create" a lot of things, they just adapted a lot of canon things, which is what made it so pleasing to play, as a Zelda fans

As for the champions, I dunno ... I always felt like their "popularity" was more about "Oh yeah, they are from the latest game that worked, guess we have to put one of them" instead of "Wow they are such cool characters ! Really want them in !", but that steem down from the fact that BOTW ... Wasn't really the best at making characters (And that hurt to say about such an amazing franchise like Zelda that usually exel in that, but it's true for BOTW)

 

[Deleted member]

What if we get BOTW 2 news? What then, Ms. Faygo Shill?

a small price to pay for the pleasure of floating in the endless limbo of The Time Between Video Game Announcements

 

[GoodGrief741]

Damn, I hope Sakurai starts taking more care of himself. Dude doesn't exactly live the healthiest lifestyle, he definitely needs a rest at this point.

Did someone say red karate man?!

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Damn that's a deep cut

 

[Gyrom8]

hydrated ganondorf

it wind waker ganondorf

 

[MattX20]

I hope Sakurai gets more food and water after this

 

[Deleted member]

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that's just kirby down b

 

[Wunderwaft]

It will be a good day when this forsaken information drought ends completely. It's tiresome to talk about when the next Direct drops over and over.

There's a very good chance that Nintendo has nothing to show from their line-up and this year is barren for them. With how we've had three separate directs of different games for the past two months it seems they don't have a lot of games to reveal. I'm not gonna be surprised if we get a Xenoblade direct instead of a general direct this month.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

There's a very good chance that Nintendo has nothing to show from their line-up and this year is barren for them. With how we've had three separate directs of different games for the past two months it seems they don't have a lot of games to reveal. I'm not gonna be surprised if we get a Xenoblade direct instead of a general direct this month.

I, for one, would welcome a Xenoblade direct

didn’t X get dedicated directs or

 

[Wunderwaft]

I, for one, would welcome a Xenoblade direct

didn’t X get dedicated directs or

I'm not sure about X but XC2 got a dedicated direct back in 2017.

 

[MattX20]

There's a very good chance that Nintendo has nothing to show from their line-up and this year is barren for them. With how we've had three separate directs of different games for the past two months it seems they don't have a lot of games to reveal. I'm not gonna be surprised if we get a Xenoblade direct instead of a general direct this month.

Doesn't really make sense considering how popular the Switch is and I imagine 3rd parties have some games lined up for it

 

[P.Kat]

It will be a good day when this forsaken information drought ends completely. It's tiresome to talk about when the next Direct drops over and over.

Pssht this drought isn't so bad, ya big baby, you just need patience. Just look at me...

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Can someone scratch my back, my skin's bit dry out here.
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[Cosmic77]

There's a very good chance that Nintendo has nothing to show from their line-up and this year is barren for them. With how we've had three separate directs of different games for the past two months it seems they don't have a lot of games to reveal. I'm not gonna be surprised if we get a Xenoblade direct instead of a general direct this month.

I doubt it'll be that severe.

Worst-case scenario, BotW 2 and Pokemon SwSh DLC will be the highlights of E3 2020. It's not great, but I think it'll be just as good as last year's when LM3 and SwSh were the focus.

 

[Eldrake]

Pssht this drought isn't so bad, ya big baby, you just need patience. Just look me...

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Imagine actually waiting for the direct like a PATIENT person when you could just cryogenically preserve yourself like any normal person would do.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I doubt it'll be that severe.

Worst-case scenario, BotW 2 and Pokemon SwSh DLC will be the highlights of E3 2020. It's not great, but I think it'll be just as good as last year's when LM3 and SwSh was the focus.

Lmao ShoShi absolutely wasn't focused at E3 at all, especially as the only thing they really showed off was Nessa

 

[SNEKeater]

There's a very good chance that Nintendo has nothing to show from their line-up and this year is barren for them. With how we've had three separate directs of different games for the past two months it seems they don't have a lot of games to reveal. I'm not gonna be surprised if we get a Xenoblade direct instead of a general direct this month.

That would be a bit disappointing for me, but they will announce at least a few games during this year, that's for sure.
First months of the year are usually very relaxed and 'empty' for Nintendo these last years, not that I have a problem at all with that because for other platforms most of their big games are usually released before summer,

 

[Wunderwaft]

Doesn't really make sense considering how popular the Switch is and I imagine 3rd parties have some games lined up for it

My guess is that the third party games are still far away from being released or they're not enough for a general direct. Hell, Doom Eternal isn't even gonna get released on the Switch in March, the release date for the Switch version is left in an ambiguous "2020" slot.

Bayonetta 3 is another weird situation where Platinum Games are making big changes and announcements yet nothing related to Bayonetta 3, we've had Platinum Games tell us the game is on it's way but we've literally gotten nothing since 2017.

SMT V is another third party title coming to the Switch that Atlus is taking their sweet ass time with, like three Persona 5 games got released before even a gameplay trailer for SMT V got revealed. Atlus said they'll show something related to the game this year, but it's Atlus, they'll find a way to delay the information.

It seems there aren't that many first party and third party titles coming to the Switch in the first half of 2020. If that's the case then it makes sense there hasn't been a general direct yet.

 

[MattX20]

Pssht this drought isn't so bad, ya big baby, you just need patience. Just look me...

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Can someone scratch my back, my skin's bit dry out here.
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You're uh, looking a little dry there

 

[P.Kat]

Imagine actually waiting for the direct like a PATIENT person when you could just cryogenically preserve yourself like any normal person would do.
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I was going to, but they said I was $79.99 to short for cryogenic preservation.

I could of waited to buy Granblue Fantasy Versus (character set) later but noooooo...

 

[Gyrom8]

I'm hoping there's more than DLC and the few games we know of for the post March period - 2018 was a little bit of a dry year, but then that was when I got Switch games I hadn't bought in 2017 and caught up with some old Wii U ports, so it was fine for me

In all honesty, Animal Crossing is going to completely claim my life in 16 days, but knowing what stuff's coming in the future is always reassuring - which is why I don't quite agree with the 'there are so many games out right now, why do you want a direct' angle when it's not really about playing stuff now (unless the direct does a shadowdrop) and more about that good feeling of knowing stuff is on the horizon

 

[Cosmic77]

Lmao ShoShi absolutely wasn't focused at E3 at all, especially as the only thing they really showed off was Nessa

What universe were you living in back then?

SwSh was basically the main game Nintendo showcased at last year's E3. They had several booths with demos, lots of decorations including banners and small statues, and lanyards that they were handing out to attendees.

 

[NurpNurp]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Sakurai count the Fire Emblem mobile game as good enough to put in Smash? Or am I missing some serious FE lore and it's somehow canon enough to not be called a spinoff?
I just remember some confusion over how Three Houses being called FE17 rather than FE16 in the wake of the Byleth reveal.

Yes, and only a song but still. Heroes is 100% a spin-off which makes it weird to me that it's even counted as FE16.

Also, come on! You have "Gear Up For..." but couldn't get "God Shattering Star"? It's not even a licensing issue like "Whims of Fate" would have been it's the same company

 

[Cutie Gwen]

What universe were you living in back then?

SwSh was basically the main game Nintendo showcased at last year's E3. They had several booths with demos, lots of decorations including banners and small statues, and lanyards that they were handing out to attendees.

Ah, I thought you meant the E3 Direct which was just a recap of the Pokemon news that was a week prior outside of Nessa

 

[wynn728]

I believe you when you say it takes little effort because you make zero attempt to actually post anything productive, interesting, amiable, logical, or even original. Ranting about everything and not having to critically think when called out for being wrong is remarkably effortless.

Literally nothing posted here is productive. It's not like any of these post are going to affect Smash Bros or it's future. You typing this isn't even productive at all. Me responding to this isn't productive. I guess it's only productive if we just keep spouting positive crap and refrain from saying anything that can be considered negative. Do I need to keep listing all the stuff I like about game before I dare say something bad about it?

 

[N3ON]

I'd honestly say Doom is to Japan as Dragon Quest is to the West. Both are extremely popular in their home country and are considered some of the most important games in defining their genre, but have yet to find footing overseas beyond a small but very dedicated group of fans.

It's not an unfounded comparison, but I think, given the sheer magnitude of the respective series, the true parallel for Dragon Quest would be Halo. It might be less influential than Doom, but since its existence I'd say it's also been a much higher-profile series.

Plus up until the XB1 Halo did have somewhat of a fanbase within Japan, while Doom's Japanese fanbase, to my knowledge, is quite small. Like, per capita, I imagine it's smaller than DQ's western fanbase.

There's a very good chance that Nintendo has nothing to show from their line-up and this year is barren for them. With how we've had three separate directs of different games for the past two months it seems they don't have a lot of games to reveal. I'm not gonna be surprised if we get a Xenoblade direct instead of a general direct this month.

Barring any virus-related production delays, I don't imagine that will be true. That said, I really don't know what they're holding out for at this point. We've been waiting for this Direct for 1/6 of the Switch's life.

All I did was put in a throw away line, you're acting like I made a giant paragraph that only focused on Assist Trophy.

Can’t even admit it, huh?

Well the point of my post was that the festering obsession you’re unable to let go will ultimately hinder you the most, and that’s true whether you’re big enough to acknowledge it or not.

 

[PhantomShab]

Don't worry Wynn I hate assist trophies too.

 

[HansShotFirst20]

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Dehydrodorf was supposed to be announced 2 weeks ago, but the reveal was cancelled due to Sakurai's dehydration.

 

[TheYungLink]

Broke: Hydrated Ganondorf for Smash
Woke: Hydrated Sakurai for health

 

[NurpNurp]

Broke: Hydrated Ganondorf for Smash
Woke: Hydrated Sakurai for health

The only bit of discussion that matters

 

[Cosmic77]

I think the only reason why ATs are so hated is because a lot of people think it's a permanent deconfirmation.

If Waluigi or Isaac got in through one of the six remaining slots, then I feel like ATs would suddenly be treated way better than they are now.

 

[NurpNurp]

I think the only reason why ATs are so hated is because a lot of people think it's a permanent deconfirmation.

If Waluigi or Isaac got in through one of the six remaining slots, then I feel like ATs would suddenly be treated way better than they are now.

Let's ignore the fact that there's a precedent that disproves ATs being permabans currently in the game right now. Mac might not be good, but he's at least mostly playable

 

[Hadokeyblade]

I feel weird that the lack of Zelda newcomers never bothered me.

We have the most important games represented already in some form we don't really need anymore than that.