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Yeah, I like how the Direct was like "We made this character in absolutely secrecy, so very few people at Nintendo even know who it is!" to "Nintendo made me put them in..."
It's not worth getting excited about. It's going to be extremely basic information like "each character will have music and stage to go with it" and "this is when we decided it" and "we hope people are excited and buy Vol 2" you're not going to get any kind of revelation or hint at what's going to happen or what direction they're going with Vol 2. It's going to just be vague with the same talking points as every other thing.
They did. Those fan rosters were less concerned about things being "fair" and "balanced", and generic enemies were fine.
Honestly I don't even really know what a big swing pick is. Is that like, main stream popular? Fan popular? Historically significant?
Ehh let's go ahead and say iconic? Wasn't elaborated on as much as I would've wanted honestly lol. I guess newer characters aren't as iconic like Joker and Byleth for example
My point was more on the fixation on 90's and retro characters being the only good options. That's still here and then some with this community.
Of course they aren't the only good options, but that doesn't give you the right to **** on them.
Iconic in where?
Joker was decently large, but I don't think he was on the radar of most Nintendo fans.
Steve is one of my most likely picks, but currently I could see him slipping in as a Deluxe Mii Costume. It would be interesting if he gets in though. After being a player in the Banjo vs Steve debate wars, I came to see him as a good pick.
The same could be said about newer, more out there characters that core fans **** on all the time.
I can kinda argue Reimu is a bit more likely than Quote, mainly because we know for a fact ZUN would allow her in Smash and the fact Niantic has been full of sketchy stuff lately that I imagine Nintendo may not want to touch him. As well as Touhou being around since the 90's.
Can someone explain to me the Touhou thing? Don't get me wrong, it seems cool and all. But if smash was going to add a series with Yokai, Yokai watch seems infinitely more plausible and no one has even mentioned Yibanyan since sm4sh. I'm just not very fresh on Touhou besides Zun being in Another king for a day
Bullet Hell doujin series that's been around since the 90's if we count the PC-98 games. One of the largest Doujin/indie series around where it's in the Guiness Book of World Records for most prolific Indie series around, the doujin circle is so big that it needs it own con given how big it's in Comiket, and it has a strong following in Japan and China with a cult following in the West.
While I should've been more specific with my language, I don't think the point I was making was wrong.
I could totally see it if Sakurai was a fan of the series himself, but I don't know the guy so lol. Considering it's big in those regions, I don't have much of a grasp on it besides the smaller following it has in the west. Only problem I see is that it first started on PC + Would it be difficult to represent a bullet hell character in smash?
The series has a fair share of fighting games too which actually manage to blend traditional fighting mechanics with Shmup mechanics. They're honestly quite fun to play and I prefer the official fighters slightly more than the Shmups.
out of all things to hold back a character for, I highly doubt platform of origin would be one of em
It's mostly that it just seemed kinda weird to me, you know?
You are still saying essentially the same thing: that if Sakurai doesn't want a character he can just say "gimme another, what are you gonna do, fire me? I got you by the balls Nintendo". That's simply not what he was implying.
Thank you. Sakurai wouldn't be like "Man, idk Nintendo...My creative juices just aren't flowing for this character... Think you can give me another one?
"Personally, I think it's far more likely that the last character of FP2 will be in a similiar vein to Corrin and Byleth: A character from a game that is currently being developed and slated for release. It will most likely be that pass's Nintendo character since it would be easy for Sakurai to gain access to whatever Nintendo's cooking up to the point where they can be developed without issue. One of the reasons Byleth (and Corrin) made it in is precisely because they are recent characters who would have had to wait years to get into Smash if DLC were not taken into account.
Also agreed on this.
I can kind of argue that's because a lot of fan rules have been broken over Smash inclusions as well as us getting more and more Third Parties to the point where it doesn't seem like some "Super once in a lifetime thing" people handwaved in Brawl around and most of the big names have gotten in already in SSB4 and Ultimate for characters.
I think Geno has a shot just because his mii costume hasn't been deconfirmed yet, but it's definitely not super likely. He probably has more of a shot of his costume returning in a better Mii Gunner skin. Bandana Dee and Dixie are def dead picks though sadly
Imagine hypothetically if, in addition to that, her hurtbox were as small as it is for the playable characters in the bullet hell main series games.
This I believe is the most likely option. I genuinely think Nintendo wants to see characters they're making or having a hand in making right now be in Smash through DLC than picking a character who clearly has had their glory days.
Not even a year ago I thought that the sheer idea of Reimu getting in Smash was beyond ridiculous but given the direction Nintendo and Sakurai have taken with the DLC so far I now consider her a genuine possibility. I'm sure that's how a lot of Touhou fans feel.
To be fair we do rate a ton of characters in the RTC thread, even if someone actively seeks to expand their knowledge, I'd be very surprised if that person had the time and interest to do proper research on every one of them, and if they don't it's better that they abstain rather than talk about a subject they can't contribute to in a meaningful way. I usually just don't comment when it's a day that I'm not all that interested in, but I understand if people want to get their nominations in, or if it's a double day where they have something to say about one character but not the other.
I don't imagine they'd do that but...What if she was like Bowser Jr.? She takes less damage if you hit most of her, but more damage if you hit the red glowey bit. It'd be kinda interesting especially if she was super light (and I'd imagine she'd at least be pretty floaty). Although this would probably just mean you do less damage with aerials and attacks that just clip her arm.
They literally selected Banjo & Kazooie for the last pass
