Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[RileyXY1]

I could see Yakuza maybe getting in but I think you're forgetting Puyo puyo. It's bigger than Yakuza in sales and have a bigger history, and it's more closely affiliated with Nintendo.

I think that Yakuza will likely get in over Puyo Puyo.

 

[Sestetz]

If Street Fighter (or a different third party series) had as many characters as the Super Mario (8 characters and 1 Echo Fighter), Pokémon (10 characters), or Fire Emblem (6 characters and 2 echo fighters) series, who would you pick and why?

Ooh this is a fun one

Ryu
Ken (Σ)
Akuma
Chun
Alex
Zangief
Rashid
M. Bison

 

[CapitaineCrash]

If Street Fighter (or a different third party series) had as many characters as the Super Mario (8 characters and 1 Echo Fighter), Pokémon (10 characters), or Fire Emblem (6 characters and 2 echo fighters) series, who would you pick and why?

For Street Fighter, I'd go with what Fire Emblem's got:
Ryu
Ken (Σ)
Akuma (Σ)
Chun-Li
M. Bison
Guile
Zangief
Menat

This covers the big names of the series, adds some important characters, and throws in a completely unique character just for fun. I didn't add Sakura or Segat because I felt that since Ryu, Ken, and Akuma all have the same moveset it would be imperative that the rest of the characters don't even remotely resemble the shotos to avoid "most of the characters are just Ryu" complaints.

I choose Final fantasy, because how big the franchise is and with every game having a different protagonist, there's just that much potential. Based on Super Mario (8 original and 1 echo).
-Cloud Strife (FF 7)
-Zack Fair (Cloud echo) (FF 7)
Sephiroth (FF 7)
-Black mage (FF)
-Terra Branford (FF 6)
-Cactuar (FF 6)
-Tidus (FF 10)
-Lighning (FF 13)
-Noctis Lucis Caelum (FF 15)

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Ooh this is a fun one

Ryu
Ken (Σ)
Akuma
Chun
Alex
Zangief
Rashid
M. Bison

Rashid would be great too! Really any Street Fighter V newcomer would be great so long as they aren't Kage or Abigail.

 

[Sestetz]

Rashid would be great too! Really any Street Fighter V newcomer would be great so long as they aren't Kage or Abigail.

lol abigal, he's already annoying in sfv if he was in smash I would die

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I choose Final fantasy, because how big the franchise is and with every game having a different protagonist, there's just that much potential. Based on Super Mario (8 original and 1 echo).
-Cloud Strife (FF 7)
-Zack Fair (Cloud echo) (FF 7)
Sephiroth (FF 7)
-Black mage (FF)
-Terra Branford (FF 6)
-Cactuar (FF 6)
-Tidus (FF 10)
-Lighning (FF 13)
-Noctis Lucis Caelum (FF 15)

Any scenario in which I can play as a Cactuar is the best timeline. Also Black Mage. Black Mage is cool.

 

[Extremmefan]

I really would hate if they added another Pokemon after Incineroar. I think they missed the shot for having the fire water grass trio with picking Incineroar over Decidueye. But I wanted Incineroar more than him anyways honestly

I want Pokemon, but rather than it being constantly latest I want the missing (or at this point any) past generations to get some of that love too. It's become tiring how expectable they've been recently, so at this point imo the older ones would actually be more of a curveball than anything very recent.

I think if we got another sega rep the most likely picks would be another Sonic character (because of course sega would want that). Or a Yazuka rep. I'm not really sure how it would work, but Yakuza is giant in Japan, and it gets to the top of the sales on the charts easily. It's the last franchise I could see Sega adding besides like, Valkyria Chronicles? Everything else they have it pretty dead sadly, no Jet Set radio character T-T. But even then having a character like Kiryu would be mad difficult, I can't really even come up with a recovery for him. Would be fun to at least have a stage though.

Puyo Puyo and Sakura Wars, that is all. I don't know much about Sega in general but I've heard enough to say that both have returned to an active state and are likely being just as pushed, and if Bayonetta is any indication then Sega getting a series pushed rather than getting a well-doing franchise repped is not out of the question (in which case Yakuza would be the other way, more of a Joker situation).

 

[Sestetz]

Would a Bravely Default character work? I'd say Octopath, but Bravely has a bit more time on its belt. I haven't played much of the games themselves, but I think they revolve around class changes? How would that work in a moveset?

 

[Sari]

If Street Fighter (or a different third party series) had as many characters as the Super Mario (8 characters and 1 Echo Fighter), Pokémon (10 characters), or Fire Emblem (6 characters and 2 echo fighters) series, who would you pick and why?

For Street Fighter, I'd go with what Fire Emblem's got:
Ryu
Ken (Σ)
Akuma (Σ)
Chun-Li
M. Bison
Guile
Zangief
Menat

This covers the big names of the series, adds some important characters, and throws in a completely unique character just for fun. I didn't add Sakura or Segat because I felt that since Ryu, Ken, and Akuma all have the same moveset it would be imperative that the rest of the characters don't even remotely resemble the shotos to avoid "most of the characters are just Ryu" complaints.

For SNK:

• Terry
• Kyo
• Iori
• Mai (yeah yeah I know)
• Athena
• Geese
• K'
• Haohmaru
• Nakoruru
• Marco Rossi (and the other Metal Slug characters as alts)

Essentially all the big names/popular characters. Ryo was an honorable mention but he'd be way too similar to Ryu. If Mai can't work then swap her with Rugal.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I think if we got another sega rep the most likely picks would be another Sonic character (because of course sega would want that). Or a Yazuka rep. I'm not really sure how it would work, but Yakuza is giant in Japan, and it gets to the top of the sales on the charts easily. It's the last franchise I could see Sega adding besides like, Valkyria Chronicles? Everything else they have it pretty dead sadly, no Jet Set radio character T-T. But even then having a character like Kiryu would be mad difficult, I can't really even come up with a recovery for him. Would be fun to at least have a stage though.

Just some advice, don't make 2 posts in a row, either edit the first post or wait until someone else posts in the mean time

I could see Yakuza maybe getting in but I think you're forgetting Puyo puyo. It's bigger than Yakuza in sales and have a bigger history, and it's more closely affiliated with Nintendo.

Tbf we got Mega Man before Ryu, Banjo before Master Chief or Steve and as Smash has kept showing, Nintendo ties aren't nearly as important as they used to be

 

[Flyboy]

If Street Fighter (or a different third party series) had as many characters as the Super Mario (8 characters and 1 Echo Fighter), Pokémon (10 characters), or Fire Emblem (6 characters and 2 echo fighters) series, who would you pick and why?

For Street Fighter, I'd go with what Fire Emblem's got:
Ryu
Ken (Σ)
Akuma (Σ)
Chun-Li
M. Bison
Guile
Zangief
Menat

This covers the big names of the series, adds some important characters, and throws in a completely unique character just for fun. I didn't add Sakura or Segat because I felt that since Ryu, Ken, and Akuma all have the same moveset it would be imperative that the rest of the characters don't even remotely resemble the shotos to avoid "most of the characters are just Ryu" complaints.

This is fun. I like your list a lot, but I think I'd use Juri instead of Menat. She's one of the most popular 4/V characters easily, as cool as Menat is. Her staying power is enough to put her into pretty much any SF crossover (and, no, I don't think she'd fall victim to the Mai curse).

If we get to go a little crazier I'd love to see Poison and Hugo as a duo in place of Guile just because I love them, but I know that's super unlikely even if Poison is a fan favorite.

 

[Sestetz]

Just some advice, don't make 2 posts in a row, either edit the first post or wait until someone else posts in the mean time

Tbf we got Mega Man before Ryu, Banjo before Master Chief or Steve and as Smash has kept showing, Nintendo ties aren't nearly as important as they used to be

I messed up my post to the guy asking for the 8 reps from a certain franchise one, so that's sorta why I had an extra post, sorry!

 

[CapitaineCrash]

Just some advice, don't make 2 posts in a row, either edit the first post or wait until someone else posts in the mean time

Tbf we got Mega Man before Ryu, Banjo before Master Chief or Steve and as Smash has kept showing, Nintendo ties aren't nearly as important as they used to be

Well Mega man got way more support than Ryu in Smash in the Brawl time and Banjo got way more support than Chief and Steve. Arle also have way more support than Kazuma so I could see her being choose based on that (although support never means everything, it can help).

 

[shinhed-echi]

If Street Fighter (or a different third party series) had as many characters as the Super Mario (8 characters and 1 Echo Fighter), Pokémon (10 characters), or Fire Emblem (6 characters and 2 echo fighters) series, who would you pick and why?

For Street Fighter, I'd go with what Fire Emblem's got:
Ryu
Ken (Σ)
Akuma (Σ)
Chun-Li
M. Bison
Guile
Zangief
Menat

This covers the big names of the series, adds some important characters, and throws in a completely unique character just for fun. I didn't add Sakura or Segat because I felt that since Ryu, Ken, and Akuma all have the same moveset it would be imperative that the rest of the characters don't even remotely resemble the shotos to avoid "most of the characters are just Ryu" complaints.

In before anyone else does Sonic.

1) Sonic
2) Tails € (different Up+B)
3) Shadow € (different Up+B and Side+B)
4) Dr.Eggman
5) Amy
6) Knuckles
7) Metal Sonic
8) Mighty & Ray (combo team, promote Mania+)

 

[P.Kat]

If Street Fighter (or a different third party series) had as many characters as the Super Mario (8 characters and 1 Echo Fighter), Pokémon (10 characters), or Fire Emblem (6 characters and 2 echo fighters) series, who would you pick and why?

For Street Fighter, I'd go with what Fire Emblem's got:
Ryu
Ken (Σ)
Akuma (Σ)
Chun-Li
M. Bison
Guile
Zangief
Menat

This covers the big names of the series, adds some important characters, and throws in a completely unique character just for fun. I didn't add Sakura or Segat because I felt that since Ryu, Ken, and Akuma all have the same moveset it would be imperative that the rest of the characters don't even remotely resemble the shotos to avoid "most of the characters are just Ryu" complaints.

I'd go the Fire Emblem route too:
Ryu
Ken (Σ)
Sakura (Σ)
Chun-Li
M.Bison
Zangief
Ibuki
Juri

 

[DarthEnderX]

If Street Fighter (or a different third party series) had as many characters as the Super Mario (8 characters and 1 Echo Fighter), Pokémon (10 characters), or Fire Emblem (6 characters and 2 echo fighters) series, who would you pick and why?

Mega Man:
1 - Megaman
1e -Protoman
2 - Roll
3 - Bass
4 - X
5 - Zero
6 - Vile
7 - Sigma
8 - Tron Bonne
Boss - Wily Machine 8

 

[SKX31]

If Street Fighter (or a different third party series) had as many characters as the Super Mario (8 characters and 1 Echo Fighter), Pokémon (10 characters), or Fire Emblem (6 characters and 2 echo fighters) series, who would you pick and why?

For Street Fighter, I'd go with what Fire Emblem's got:
Ryu
Ken (Σ)
Akuma (Σ)
Chun-Li
M. Bison
Guile
Zangief
Menat

This covers the big names of the series, adds some important characters, and throws in a completely unique character just for fun. I didn't add Sakura or Segat because I felt that since Ryu, Ken, and Akuma all have the same moveset it would be imperative that the rest of the characters don't even remotely resemble the shotos to avoid "most of the characters are just Ryu" complaints.

I'd do FF a bit differently:

Sephiroth
Black Mage (FFI / FFIII) / Vivi (FFIX)
Cecil (FFIV)
Terra (FFVI)
Kefka (FFVI)
Yuna (FFX) - choosing her over Tidus due to summoning magic mainly.
Lightning (FFXIII Series)
Noctis (FFXV)
Gilgamesh (FFV etc.)

So that brings FF to Pokemon levels.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

If Street Fighter (or a different third party series) had as many characters as the Super Mario (8 characters and 1 Echo Fighter), Pokémon (10 characters), or Fire Emblem (6 characters and 2 echo fighters) series, who would you pick and why?

For Street Fighter, I'd go with what Fire Emblem's got:
Ryu
Ken (Σ)
Akuma (Σ)
Chun-Li
M. Bison
Guile
Zangief
Menat

This covers the big names of the series, adds some important characters, and throws in a completely unique character just for fun. I didn't add Sakura or Segat because I felt that since Ryu, Ken, and Akuma all have the same moveset it would be imperative that the rest of the characters don't even remotely resemble the shotos to avoid "most of the characters are just Ryu" complaints.

Sonic, going the Super Mario route:
- Sonic
- Shadow (e)
- Knuckles
- Tails
- Amy
- Eggman
- Rouge
- ... Big the Cat Blaze

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Mega Man is my favorite 3rd party series, so if I was allowed to go ham with it I would be so happy. I'll give it Super Mario's number of characters (8 unique, 1 echo):
Mega Man
Proto Man (Σ)
Bass
X
Zero
Sigma
Dr. Wily
Roll
Pharaoh Man

It's got all of the main characters of the Mega Man and Mega Man X series, and Pharaoh Man because why not. (I'd probably add Tron or Vile instead of Pharaoh Man if I were to be objective about it.) Bass's moveset would be based off of his boss battles instead of his playable appearances (though he'd still have the Bass Buster as his Neutral Special or something). Pharaoh Man's Final Smash would be the mighty Pharaoh punch!

This is fun. I like your list a lot, but I think I'd use Juri instead of Menat. She's one of the most popular 4/V characters easily, as cool as Menat is. Her staying power is enough to put her into pretty much any SF crossover (and, no, I don't think she'd fall victim to the Mai curse).

I don't play Street Fighter games and Juri's not my cup of tea so she didn't cross my mind, but she'd probably be the objectively best pick from the newer titles now that you mention her. (Also she's got pants so she's fine.)

- ... Big the Cat. Yes.

- ... Big the Cat Blaze

Nuhno. You be proud of your pick! Big the Cat is the best Sonic candidate for Smash. They just don't see it yet.

 

[Extremmefan]

Sonic, going the Super Mario route:
- Sonic
- Shadow (e)
- Knuckles
- Tails
- Amy
- Eggman
- Rouge
- ... Big the Cat Blaze

I'd take anything but Blaze. Don't want my sis to be even more of a pain than she already is.
Silver would be more interesting to see imo but I guess the 06 stigma might be too big there.

 

[Jomosensual]

Why are we even still talking about the Akuma leak? It straight up looks like a Smash 4 mod, it goes against Akuma's signature characteristics, and it's 4Chan where leaks are fake 99% of the time.

btw can I get a Fighters Pass 2 template?

https://twitter.com/Templates4Smash/status/1217844656731492352

 

[Herocin]

The only thing that makes me think Pokémon might not be in pass#2 is because Sakurai said how TPC are the hardest party to work with (much worse than any 3rd party). Don’t remember what interview that was from though.

And also, no Pokémon has ever been DLC except for Mewtwo only he 1) Might have been meant for base roster like PP, and 2) Was a veteran character. (And 3) Huge demand for him to return?)

I don’t recall Sakurai saying the Pokemon Company was the hardest to work with and I don’t think that’s the sort of thing Sakurai would say or even reveal. From interviews it seems Sakurai just picks out the Pokemon he wants and they let him have it with rare cases like Greninja happening where they just let him have concept art to make a moveset before it’s known to the public. And more recently with the exception of gen one they only add Pokemon from the most recent gen which would explain the lack of a dlc Pokemon for smash 4 as the most recent gen out at the time was 6 and we had already got greninja. It depends if Sakurai views Pokemon as highly as he does during base game during this dlc to a large enough extent that it makes him want to add one

 

[Guynamednelson]

If Street Fighter (or a different third party series) had as many characters as the Super Mario (8 characters and 1 Echo Fighter), Pokémon (10 characters), or Fire Emblem (6 characters and 2 echo fighters) series, who would you pick and why?

For Street Fighter, I'd go with what Fire Emblem's got:
Ryu
Ken (Σ)
Akuma (Σ)
Chun-Li
M. Bison
Guile
Zangief
Menat

This covers the big names of the series, adds some important characters, and throws in a completely unique character just for fun. I didn't add Sakura or Segat because I felt that since Ryu, Ken, and Akuma all have the same moveset it would be imperative that the rest of the characters don't even remotely resemble the shotos to avoid "most of the characters are just Ryu" complaints.

The King of Fighters, with FE's numbers:

Terry
Rock
Kyo
Kusanagi (Σ)
Iori
Ralf
Clark (Σ)
K'

 

[Sestetz]

If Street Fighter (or a different third party series) had as many characters as the Super Mario (8 characters and 1 Echo Fighter), Pokémon (10 characters), or Fire Emblem (6 characters and 2 echo fighters) series, who would you pick and why?

For Street Fighter, I'd go with what Fire Emblem's got:
Ryu
Ken (Σ)
Akuma (Σ)
Chun-Li
M. Bison
Guile
Zangief
Menat

This covers the big names of the series, adds some important characters, and throws in a completely unique character just for fun. I didn't add Sakura or Segat because I felt that since Ryu, Ken, and Akuma all have the same moveset it would be imperative that the rest of the characters don't even remotely resemble the shotos to avoid "most of the characters are just Ryu" complaints.

Wanted to make a new one because my first was just Street Fighter.

Persona/SMT:
Joker (Persona 5)
Goro Akechi (Echo)
Itsuki (Tokyo Mirrage Sessions) Stage - Shibuya
Yu Narukami (Persona 4) - Back Side Of The TV/June's
Makoto/Femc (Persona 3: FES) Tartarus
Jack Frost (Everything lol) Velvet Room
Flynn (Shin Megami Tensei IV) Devil's Colosseum
Shin Megami Tensei 5 Protag whenever that comes out

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Boss - Wily Machine 8

Wily Machine 8 would be a really cool boss so long as the second phase doesn't last all that long (it's not particularly interesting and would be incredibly frustrating for Little Mac and the slow characters). If we couldn't have that with Dr. Wily playable, then I'd pick the Wily Teleport System; a boss rush that pits your character against eight of the series's most popular Robot Masters and/or Mavericks, with each perhaps giving you an item that does more damage against certain bosses.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

If Street Fighter (or a different third party series) had as many characters as the Super Mario (8 characters and 1 Echo Fighter), Pokémon (10 characters), or Fire Emblem (6 characters and 2 echo fighters) series, who would you pick and why?

For Street Fighter, I'd go with what Fire Emblem's got:
Ryu
Ken (Σ)
Akuma (Σ)
Chun-Li
M. Bison
Guile
Zangief
Menat

This covers the big names of the series, adds some important characters, and throws in a completely unique character just for fun. I didn't add Sakura or Segat because I felt that since Ryu, Ken, and Akuma all have the same moveset it would be imperative that the rest of the characters don't even remotely resemble the shotos to avoid "most of the characters are just Ryu" complaints.

Castlevania, going the FE route

Simon Belmont
Richter Belmont (E)
Trevor Belmont (E)
Dracula
Alucard
Maria Renard
Soma Cruz
Shanoa

 

[Sc_Ev0lution]

Would a Bravely Default character work? I'd say Octopath, but Bravely has a bit more time on its belt. I haven't played much of the games themselves, but I think they revolve around class changes? How would that work in a moveset?

I think a lot of people envision a stance change moveset: kinda like Pokemon Trainer's down b. However, I don't think that's too likely, since that is not only a huge amount of work, especially for a dlc fighter, but it also makes for an inelegant moveset imo. The most I could see come from this moveset concept of class change is being able to swap special moves.

My alternate concept revolves around the game's namesake: the Brave/Default system. In the BD games, you can Default, which sacrifices a turn but doubles your defenses and stores that turn for later, then Brave taking multiple actions in one turn. Or you could Brave right away, but leave yourself vulnerable for as many turns as you braved. And there are some high powered moves that require Braving to preform.

In smash, I think this would manifest as Default assigned to down special, which could power up your other specials for later. but pressing and holding b powers up the special anyway though it leaves you extremely vulnerable. Think Focus Attack plus Limit Break (so, Rebels Guard I guess...) but the buffs are more focused and can be stacked. I realize meters and resource management mechanics have become a trope of Smash dlc, but I think Brave/Default can be made distinct.

Now, if you want to go crazy, you could have it so Braving allow you to cancel normals into specials, but on what would likely otherwise be a highly mobile swordfighter that may be too much.




Thinking on it, Byleth and Hero kinda stole a BD rep's potential thunder. I mean, since the class system in BD is so open, I always pictured Tiz or Edea having a moveset that drew ideas from all over the place, incorporating a variety of weapons and spells. Now, Byleth covers the "weapon's master" archetype well enough, and Hero the "magic swordsman." I guess Sakurai was able to differentiate Hero and Robin enough: they have very different normals, and feel very different to play. Even so, they are quite similar in broad strokes, with a Wind up b, a swaped Fire and Electric attack for neutral and side b, and a utility down b. There's definitely still room to make a BD character work, but it would take some creative thinking for them not to come off as stale.

 

[SilverSoul24]

- ... Big the Cat Blaze

Just wait until a Sonic Adventure remake is confirmed and gets a promotional character in Smash. I can hear already hear him shouting "Froggyyyy!" as he jumps straight to top tier. And he's still a better meme pick than Waluigi.

Castlevania, going the FE route

Simon Belmont
Richter Belmont (E)
Trevor Belmont (E)
Dracula
Alucard
Maria Renard
Soma Cruz
Shanoa

Ahhh I was literally working on a Castlevania list right now! Haha, good work, though. Mine was actually identical aside from having Sypha over Dracula since he's a boss.

 

[King Sonnn DeDeDoo]

I know most people don't care about spirits, but I wish that nearly all series featured in Smash can get one spirit. The series that got included through Mii Costumes should get a spirit too, but I can see why they didn't want to lock spirit list completion behind a DLC paywall.

Goemon, sans, Altaïr, and Cuphead should all get a spirit and a spirit battle. Maybe they could have a "miscellaneous spirit event" that adds them in, but it's probably pretty doubtful.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I know most people don't care about spirits, but I'm kind of wished that nearly all series featured in Smash can get one spirit. The series that got included through Mii Costumes should get a spirit too, but I can see why they didn't want to lock spirit list completion behind a DLC paywall.

Goemon, sans, Altaïr, and Cuphead should all get a spirit and a spirit battle. Maybe they could have a "miscellaneous spirit event" that adds them in, but it's probably pretty doubtful.

I mean, they gate off spirits through timed events meaning you can't even spend money for it. I'm still mad I missed out on the Kunio stuff due to my eye injury

 

[DarthEnderX]

Wily Machine 8 would be a really cool boss so long as the second phase doesn't last all that long

WM8 is just it's appearance. It's attack pattern would be a grab bag of attacks from all the WMs.

Goemon, sans, Altaïr, and Cuphead should all get a spirit and a spirit battle. Maybe they could have a "miscellaneous spirit event" that adds them in, but it's probably pretty doubtful.

Completely agree. It's weird have those characters in the game and not have Spirits.

 

[King Sonnn DeDeDoo]

I mean, they gate off spirits through timed events meaning you can't even spend money for it. I'm still mad I missed out on the Kunio stuff due to my eye injury

They eventually comeback though, I missed the Tetris event and am only getting the spirits now

 

[Garteam]

If Street Fighter (or a different third party series) had as many characters as the Super Mario (8 characters and 1 Echo Fighter), Pokémon (10 characters), or Fire Emblem (6 characters and 2 echo fighters) series, who would you pick and why?

For Street Fighter, I'd go with what Fire Emblem's got:
Ryu
Ken (Σ)
Akuma (Σ)
Chun-Li
M. Bison
Guile
Zangief
Menat

This covers the big names of the series, adds some important characters, and throws in a completely unique character just for fun. I didn't add Sakura or Segat because I felt that since Ryu, Ken, and Akuma all have the same moveset it would be imperative that the rest of the characters don't even remotely resemble the shotos to avoid "most of the characters are just Ryu" complaints.

I'm gonna go the extra mile with this one and try to do this with multiple third party series. Granted, I don't really know enough about every series to give a super in-depth response, but here's what I thought.
Sonic:

Spoiler

Sonic
Shadow (Echo)
Tails
Knuckles
Amy
Metal Sonic
Blaze
Silver
Dr. Eggman

Mega Man:

Spoiler

Mega Man
Proto Man (Echo)
Dr. Wily
Mega Man X
Zero
Sigma
Mega Man Volnutt
Tron Bonne
MegaMan.EXE
Bass.EXE

Street Fighter:

Spoiler

Ryu
Ken (Echo)
Akuma (Echo)
Chun Li
Zangief
Alex
Juri
Rashid

Final Fantasy:

Spoiler

Cloud
Zack (Echo)
Sephiroth
Terra
Cecil
Bartz
Squall
Black Mage
Noctis

Castlevania:

Spoiler

Simon
Richter (echo)
Sypha Belnades
Alucard
Maria
Eric Lecarde
Soma Cruz
Shanoa
Dracula

Dragon Quest:

Spoiler

Hero
Heroine (echo, consists of Femdrick, Sophia, Anlucia, and Teresa)
Slime
Alena
Madason
Bianca
Terry
Jessica
Erik

Doing two for Terry, one based solely on Fatal Fury, one based on King of Fighters.
Fatal Fury:

Spoiler

Terry
Alice (echo, although this might be a bit of a stretch)
Andy
Joe
Mai (assuming no issues with her appearance)
Blue Mary
Billy Kane
Geese
Rock

King of Fighters:

Spoiler

Terry
Mai
Kyo
K' (echo)
Iori
Athena
Ryo
Nakoruru
Geese

 

[Extremmefan]

I don’t recall Sakurai saying the Pokemon Company was the hardest to work with and I don’t think that’s the sort of thing Sakurai would say or even reveal. From interviews it seems Sakurai just picks out the Pokemon he wants and they let him have it with rare cases like Greninja happening where they just let him have concept art to make a moveset before it’s known to the public. And more recently with the exception of gen one they only add Pokemon from the most recent gen which would explain the lack of a dlc Pokemon for smash 4 as the most recent gen out at the time was 6 and we had already got greninja. It depends if Sakurai views Pokemon as highly as he does during base game during this dlc to a large enough extent that it makes him want to add one

In an interview he says he's the one that usually approaches them to ask what's the hot new Pokemon that can be added, which by itself means the focus is already biased towards current latest (movies included) on the Smash side. Don't think that says it's hard to work with them but it at least says they're somehow not considering past 'mons (barring movie tie-ins like Mewtwo, even though imo they really should, as between missing mainstays and the demand for a rep for the missing gens there's a lot of unique choices they're overlooking there) unless none of the new 'mons fit what they ask for at all (which is VERY unlikely as it is still a massive amount of possible picks at the end of the day, plus starter final evos are now pretty much always safe enough to work with).
That's Pokemon's current situation afaik. It's also probable they always HAVE to have a new 'mon every base Smash game just to keep the IP in the game at all, but there's no definitive evidence of that aside from the repeat shilling since Melee.

 

[Guynamednelson]

although this might be a bit of a stretch

I don't know if it's her moveset that makes Alice being an echo a stretch, or her only FF appearances being in pachinko games.

Also Kim should go into that Fatal Fury list.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

They eventually comeback though, I missed the Tetris event and am only getting the spirits now

Did you already have any Tetris spirits by then? I heard they only come back if you played them at least once

 

[Dukefire]

I don't think another Pokemon rep might appear for DLC. Then again, we could be wrong with Sakurai's history with newcomers

 

[Mushroomguy12]

If Street Fighter (or a different third party series) had as many characters as the Super Mario (8 characters and 1 Echo Fighter), Pokémon (10 characters), or Fire Emblem (6 characters and 2 echo fighters) series, who would you pick and why?

For Street Fighter, I'd go with what Fire Emblem's got:
Ryu
Ken (Σ)
Akuma (Σ)
Chun-Li
M. Bison
Guile
Zangief
Menat

This covers the big names of the series, adds some important characters, and throws in a completely unique character just for fun. I didn't add Sakura or Segat because I felt that since Ryu, Ken, and Akuma all have the same moveset it would be imperative that the rest of the characters don't even remotely resemble the shotos to avoid "most of the characters are just Ryu" complaints.

Street Fighter:
Ryu
Ken (e)
Chun-Li
Cammy
Sakura
Akuma (e)
Guile
M. Bison

Megaman:
Megaman
Protoman (e)
Roll
Zero
Tron Bonne
Bass (e)
Megaman X
Vent/Aile

Final Fantasy:
Cloud
Tifa
Terra
Cecil
Tidus
Yuna
Zack Fair (e)
Lightning
Noctis

Sonic:
Sonic
Tails
Knuckles
Amy
Eggman
Shadow
Silver
Blaze
Metal Sonic (e)

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Did you already have any Tetris spirits by then? I heard they only come back if you played them at least once

I just got one today, and I missed the Tetris event completely, so it does seem like they eventually reappear.

 

[King Sonnn DeDeDoo]

Did you already have any Tetris spirits by then? I heard they only come back if you played them at least once

Hmm I don't remember doing any tetris spirits back then, I was under the impression that they just comeback eventually