Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Scoliosis Jones]

I gotta draw the line when we’re literally saying Ike is just Marth with a big sword. It’s reductionist in nature to people who like the character, and I literally cannot understand what people are talking about.

It’s plainly obvious that some folks literally either do not actually play Super Smash Bros ., or don’t put in any sort of effort to learn about characters they dislike or aren’t interested in. Ike not only plays literally nothing like Marth, his personality and backstory is entirely different.

Fire Emblem has grown. It is not the F tier series it used to be, quickly climbing into a B-Tier series that generates quality titles with mainstream appeal. It will never be Mario , Zelda, or Pokémon tier. It doesn’t have to be.

I would agree that Smash was bloated with Fire Emblem characters because literally no one wanted them and they didn’t bring anything new to the game. However, that’s not the case. Pretty much the only pick in the group that people view as truly controversial is Corrin, and even then they’re incredibly unique as a character that can transform into a dragon, pin opponents, etc...

I firmly believe that the only people who want characters cut are mainly salty that they didn’t get who they wanted. Or they don’t have experience with something, and therefore don’t understand, and therefore see it as “anti ‘my pick’”.

There’s no indication that Fire Emblem will get another pick. They aren’t going to cut anybody until next Smash at best. Arguing about sales obviously isn’t convincing anybody of anything.

Y’all are better off dropping it and talking about something actually thought provoking rather than repetitive and mind-numbing.

FYI- I play Ike regularly and have a pocket Marth— they play nothing alike.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Like Megadoomer said, please do try to engage in a different discussion. While I am all for having FE discussed, it has the potential to turn into something ugly so I ask those involved with this discussion that if you intend to continue with it; please do so in a civil manner and avoid any personal attacks or trolling of others in the discussion.

 

[Deleted member]

I hope things turn out better than expected and I do get Fire Emblem Three Houses on January 6th.

I think I’m going to join the Golden Deers.

 

[nessdeltarune00]

Found this old photo on my camera roll.



Can anyone cite where this tweet came from? Was it from the same one that was already outed as a fraud after Terry?

 

[Yacobo]

Like Megadoomer said, please do try to engage in a different discussion. While I am all for having FE discussed, it has the potential to turn into something ugly so I ask those involved with this discussion that if you intend to continue with it; please do so in a civil manner and avoid any personal attacks or trolling of others in the discussion.

Didn't seem to be an issue when people were insulting me earlier.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

As I’ve said previously, I basically don’t have much energy to put into Pick 5, but I’ll be WAY more interested to talk about picks beyond Pick 5.

Not to say leakers know everything, but if those ones that were shot down before truly aren’t Pick 5, it more or less is “meh” for me right now.

Just looking for Dante and 2B after Pick 5.

 

[Yacobo]

I gotta draw the line when we’re literally saying Ike is just Marth with a big sword. It’s reductionist in nature to people who like the character, and I literally cannot understand what people are talking about.

It’s plainly obvious that some folks literally either do not actually play Super Smash Bros ., or don’t put in any sort of effort to learn about characters they dislike or aren’t interested in. Ike not only plays literally nothing like Marth, his personality and backstory is entirely different.

Fire Emblem has grown. It is not the F tier series it used to be, quickly climbing into a B-Tier series that generates quality titles with mainstream appeal. It will never be Mario , Zelda, or Pokémon tier. It doesn’t have to be.

I would agree that Smash was bloated with Fire Emblem characters because literally no one wanted them and they didn’t bring anything new to the game. However, that’s not the case. Pretty much the only pick in the group that people view as truly controversial is Corrin, and even then they’re incredibly unique as a character that can transform into a dragon, pin opponents, etc...

I firmly believe that the only people who want characters cut are mainly salty that they didn’t get who they wanted. Or they don’t have experience with something, and therefore don’t understand, and therefore see it as “anti ‘my pick’”.

There’s no indication that Fire Emblem will get another pick. They aren’t going to cut anybody until next Smash at best. Arguing about sales obviously isn’t convincing anybody if anything.

Y’all are better off dropping it and talking about something actually thought provoking rather than repetitive and mind-numbing.

FYI- I play Ike regularly and have a pocket Marth— they play nothing alike.

You keep making these long posts but you're just arguing against points that no one is making and saying conclusions that don't justify FE getting all the content it warrants.

B tier franchise gets literally no one else 7 characters.
The characters aren't as wanted as the most wanted smash characters
Being "unique" isn't a selling point, especially since FE has done a piss poor job of this overall. If I'm going to spend money on a character I'm going to expect them to be unique. If Corrin didn't get in we wouldn't have been stuck with a clone character.
No one, except the people strawmanning me has said characters should get cut.
Yes, FE getting a character might not have been the reason one I wanted didn't, but that doesn't excuse it of criticism. FE not existing would have given at least 4 or 5 other characters to other franchises.

 

[SNEKeater]

three houses rep will defy expectations and be dimitri because this man is still absolutely killing it in official nintendo polls

For DLC approach I'd rather have new franchises but if we get a 3H character I definitely think Dimitri would be the best option.
Edelgard and Claude would be super cool as well but idk Dimitri is even more badass.
Also I would be offended if we get one of the 3 lords from 3H and they didn't came with their timeskip design. That would be an actual crime.

Is now a good time or a bad time to mention that Fire Emblem gets an entire section dedicated to it on Nintendo of Japan’s website?
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Ike and Lyn together. Seeing the best lords in the series together is for sure satisfying.

Good. The more content the better I'd say. Even if it doesn't appeal to me specifically.

Definitely I'm amazed at how there's people who wants to cut content from some franchises because "representation". Honestly, I find it unbelievable.

 

[EricTheGamerman]

As I’ve said previously, I basically don’t have much energy to put into Pick 5, but I’ll be WAY more interested to talk about picks beyond Pick 5.

Not to say leakers know everything, but if those ones that were shot down before truly aren’t Pick 5, it more or less is “meh” for me right now.

Just looking for Dante and 2B after Pick 5.

Why aren't you supporting Dante for Pick 5? I could understand 2B since we've already had a Square Enix rep in this Fighter's Pass (though I don't hold to the same hard line as others on that point), but it kind of still feels like Dante could totally show up for #5 and he still remains one of my alternate predictions for 5 personally haha.

You keep making these long posts but you're just arguing against points that no one is making and saying conclusions that don't justify FE getting all the content it warrants.

B tier franchise gets literally no one else 7 characters.
The characters aren't as wanted as the most wanted smash characters
Being "unique" isn't a selling point, especially since FE has done a piss poor job of this overall. If I'm going to spend money on a character I'm going to expect them to be unique. If Corrin didn't get in we wouldn't have been stuck with a clone character.
No one, except the people strawmanning me has said characters should get cut.
Yes, FE getting a character might not have been the reason one I wanted didn't, but that doesn't excuse it of criticism. FE not existing would have given at least 4 or 5 other characters to other franchises.

Already, look, I just want to say one thing. Fire Emblem has 7 characters and that's that. You can hate that all you want, but it's reality and you're way better off just accepting that and pushing for characters you actually like instead of complaining about what Fire Emblem has because that's not changing in Ultimate any time soon. That's not productive to getting the things you want in the game in any way, and as a conversation topic, it has clearly run its course. What are some characters you'd like to see in Ultimate just to try to pull away from all this FE stuff.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Didn't seem to be an issue when people were insulting me earlier.

I won’t go into this further in order to not sidetrack the thread but I will look into this. If you feel there are any particular examples, please report them.

Anyways,

Ultimate has included nearly all of my requested characters or characters that I have a nostalgic connection to.

Ridley was always my Character Number 1 since, like Melee. King K Rool was usually my third after Mega Man. Isabelle was also high on my list. Banjo-Kazooie were characters I always wanted since the 64 days but gave up after MS aquired Rare. I was super estatic to see them finally appear. And Terry was a pivotal point in my childhood as, along with Ken, formed the backbone of my interest in fighting games as a child. I probably first played FF when I was 7 and it quickly became apart of library along with SF, Samuai Shodown, Mortal Kombat, and, a bit later, Killer Instinct.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

You keep making these long posts but you're just arguing against points that no one is making and saying conclusions that don't justify FE getting all the content it warrants.

B tier franchise gets literally no one else 7 characters.
The characters aren't as wanted as the most wanted smash characters
Being "unique" isn't a selling point, especially since FE has done a piss poor job of this overall. If I'm going to spend money on a character I'm going to expect them to be unique. If Corrin didn't get in we wouldn't have been stuck with a clone character.
No one, except the people strawmanning me has said characters should get cut.
Yes, FE getting a character might not have been the reason one I wanted didn't, but that doesn't excuse it of criticism. FE not existing would have given at least 4 or 5 other characters to other franchises.

If you read the page, you’d have seen that literally somebody said Ike was Marth with a big sword. The logical conclusion to make after seeing somebody argue for an entire day that they don’t like Fire Emblem characters as they are right now in Smash, is that they want them cut. Otherwise, what’s your point in continuing this for literally an entire day?

Some of the other points are either not making sense to me, or are irrelevant. Bringing up hypotheticals about “4 or 5” other series that could be in aside from Fire Emblem, and then not providing a single name, seems to just say, “WOW, I’d really have rather had different series and I wish it was never added”.

I’m dropping it here because it was requested by the mods. But nothing you’ve said has been convincing, and I really think you’d have been better off at the beginning just straight up saying you didn’t like Fire Emblem, and leaving it at that.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Still thinking FP5 will be either Master Chief, KOS-MOS or Travis Touchdown.

Also my number one most wanted had always been my boi

andfollowed very closely.

 

[EricTheGamerman]

I won’t go into this further in order to not sidetrack the thread but I will look into this. If you feel there are any particular examples, please report them.

Anyways,

Ultimate has included nearly all of my requested characters or characters that I have a nostalgic connection to.

Ridley was always my Character Number 1 since, like Melee. King K Rool was usually my third after Mega Man. Isabelle was also high on my list. Banjo-Kazooie were characters I always wanted since the 64 days but gave up after MS aquired Rare. I was super estatic to see them finally appear. And Terry was a pivotal point in my childhood as, along with Ken, formed the backbone of my interest in fighting games as a child. I probably first played FF when I was 7 and it quickly became apart of library along with SF, Samuai Shodown, Mortal Kombat, and, a bit later, Killer Instinct.

Is there anyone left from that period besides the other fighting game franchises?

 

[Deleted member]

I won’t go into this further in order to not sidetrack the thread but I will look into this. If you feel there are any particular examples, please report them.

Anyways,

Ultimate has included nearly all of my requested characters or characters that I have a nostalgic connection to.

Ridley was always my Character Number 1 since, like Melee. King K Rool was usually my third after Mega Man. Isabelle was also high on my list. Banjo-Kazooie were characters I always wanted since the 64 days but gave up after MS aquired Rare. I was super estatic to see them finally appear. And Terry was a pivotal point in my childhood as, along with Ken, formed the backbone of my interest in fighting games as a child. I probably first played FF when I was 7 and it quickly became apart of library along with SF, Samuai Shodown, Mortal Kombat, and, a bit later, Killer Instinct.

I basically got everyone I wanted:

>Samus
>Zero Suit Samus
>Ridley
>Dark Samus
>K.Rool
>DQ8 Hero (probably the most never-ever of my dream picks)
>Solid Snake
>Megaman
>Pac-Man
>Cloud

At this point, I basically feel cool with anyone getting in.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

So with an direct supposedly confirmed for this month when should we expect it? Next week or the week after?

 

[nessdeltarune00]

So with an direct supposedly confirmed for this month when should we expect it? Next week or the week after?

I’d bank on next week.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Why aren't you supporting Dante for Pick 5? I could understand 2B since we've already had a Square Enix rep in this Fighter's Pass (though I don't hold to the same hard line as others on that point), but it kind of still feels like Dante could totally show up for #5 and he still remains one of my alternate predictions for 5 personally haha.



Already, look, I just want to say one thing. Fire Emblem has 7 characters and that's that. You can hate that all you want, but it's reality and you're way better off just accepting that and pushing for characters you actually like instead of complaining about what Fire Emblem has because that's not changing in Ultimate any time soon. That's not productive to getting the things you want in the game in any way, and as a conversation topic, it has clearly run its course. What are some characters you'd like to see in Ultimate just to try to pull away from all this FE stuff.

I really would like Dante as Pick 5, and he could definitely be the pick. There’s just...something telling me he isn’t.

I’d be absolutely happy to be wrong though. You better believe that.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Is there anyone left from that period besides the other fighting game franchises?

What do you mean? Sorry, just a bit confused bh the wording.

I basically got everyone I wanted:

>Samus
>Zero Suit Samus
>Ridley
>Dark Samus
>K.Rool
>DQ8 Hero (probably the most never-ever of my dream picks)
>Solid Snake
>Megaman
>Pac-Man
>Cloud

At this point, I basically feel cool with anyone getting in.

Ah, if we are talking about all of Smash...

Ike, Diddy Kong, Sonic, Wolf, Toon Link, Villager, Palutena, Mega Man, Cloud, Shulk, Lucina, and Ryu were also high on my list at some point.

 

[EricTheGamerman]

I'm a naturally greedy human, so I still want a ton more characters in Smash (no harm in admitting that lol), but I'm also completely satisfied with where we're at right now, and when the ride ends, it ends. But I'll join on the "Smash Bros. made my dreams come true" camp fire we've got going:

Basically every character I ever considered prior to more wide reaching third party considerations has made it in:

• Ridley
• King K. Rool
• Banjo & Kazooie
• Simon Belmont (I ****ing loved getting my ass kicked by the original Castlevania back in the day).
• Mewtwo Coming Back from Melee as DLC
• Diddy Kong
• Pokemon Trainer (I'm not sure I specifically wanted this as a kid, but I loved Pokemon when I was younger and was so happy to see it I might as well include it)
• Shulk
• Little Mac
• Pac-Man's reveal was one of my happiest Smash announcements ever because I was just grinning from ear to ear
• Bayonetta (I never seriously considered her because of obvious reasons, but I was totally on board post playing Bayonetta 1 and 2 on Wii U)

Great stuff all around from Smash since I first got into Melee 15 years ago this year. I'm super happy with things, and the excellent stage list in Ultimate is also a really big deal for me as I do adore so many Smash stages that I could probably make this post 4 times as long just gushing about those.

 

[Yacobo]

The logical conclusion to make after seeing somebody argue for an entire day that they don’t like Fire Emblem characters as they are right now in Smash, is that they want them cut. Otherwise, what’s your point in continuing this for literally an entire day?

My argument was that more shouldn't be added because it would be making a problem that's already there even worse.

Some of the other points are either not making sense to me, or are irrelevant. Bringing up hypotheticals about “4 or 5” other series that could be in aside from Fire Emblem, and then not providing a single name, seems to just say, “WOW, I’d really have rather had different series and I wish it was never added”.

The point was that FE has objectively taken up resources from the dev team. Even if it wasn't specifically the reason a character I wanted to get in, seeing one franchise constantly get pandered to just for the sake of it's fanbase continue to feel that they were mistreated is ridiculous.

If you read the page, you’d have seen that literally somebody said Ike was Marth with a big sword. The logical conclusion to make after seeing somebody argue for an entire day that they don’t like Fire Emblem characters as they are right now in Smash, is that they want them cut. Otherwise, what’s your point in continuing this for literally an entire day?

Some of the other points are either not making sense to me, or are irrelevant. Bringing up hypotheticals about “4 or 5” other series that could be in aside from Fire Emblem, and then not providing a single name, seems to just say, “WOW, I’d really have rather had different series and I wish it was never added”.

I’m dropping it here because it was requested by the mods. But nothing you’ve said has been convincing, and I really think you’d have been better off at the beginning just straight up saying you didn’t like Fire Emblem, and leaving it at that.

The discussion would improve if people didn't see any criticism of the franchise as people just mindlessly hating it instead of maybe, just maybe, for once FE has done something worth criticizing.

I don't think Metroid, Punch Out, F Zero, Xenoblade, Pikmin, etc. should get 7 characters either, does that mean I hate them too?

 

[Deleted member]

I really would like Dante as Pick 5, and he could definitely be the pick. There’s just...something telling me he isn’t.

I’d be absolutely happy to be wrong though. You better believe that.

I honestly believe that people shouldn’t support their most wanted just for specific spots.

I seriously doubt the chances of a character are determined by whether or not they will be the fifth or fourth on a pass and rather feel that they just will happen sooner or later.

Not to mention that hoping for our most wanted without locking ourselves into specific moments does really help us keep the motivation up.

 

[EricTheGamerman]

What do you mean? Sorry, just a bit confused bh the wording.

You said Ultimate had included nearly all of your requested characters or ones you shared a nostalgic connection with and then talked about some of those characters/games. Are there any other ones you're looking to see make it into Ultimate or would just be really happy to see even if you aren't actively pushing for them?

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

You said Ultimate had included nearly all of your requested characters or ones you shared a nostalgic connection with and then talked about some of those characters/games. Are there any other ones you're looking to see make it into Ultimate or would just be really happy to see even if you aren't actively pushing for them?

Honestly, I’m happy with any inclusions as long as the fan base is happy. I have never played FE (Except a bit of Radiant Dawn) but I was generally happy to see FE characters included as it made fans happy. So really, any additions are good in my book. Not a fan of Steve? but I would be interest to see how he is included and the stage that comes with it. I am also not generally into Hayabusa but i would be happy to see him included.

As for other characters, I list of characters that I would like to see for different reasons:

2B (never played the game but I love the story, the gameplay, and, most importantly, the soundtrack)

Doomslayer (Been a Doom fan since the beginning)

Dovahkin (Huge Skyrim/TES fan. Almost to the same level as Mass Effect)

Geno (Been on my list since the 64 days)

Lloyd Irving (Tales of Symphonia helped me get through the death of a close friend and my dog so it has a soft spot in my heart)

Sora (Interesting moveset additions and getting Utada music in Smash would be awesome)

Kratos (It would be sheer amounts of craziness to see this happen. Also, Kratos Kirby makes me happy)

Master Chief (Much like Kratos, just sheer amounts of hype and craziness from the Internet.)

Scorpion (Just to see Kirby say “Get over here!” And getting the Mortal Kombat theme song)

 

[Garteam]

Fire Emblem only has as many characters as it does because it got lucky by often being in the right place at the right time.
- was added because Sakurai wanted to beef up Melee's roster with characters that utilize the work they had done on the first batch of newcomers. Another Fire Emblem lord was an easy addition because all the lords that existed at the time had a similar fighting style to Marth, Sakurai then settled on Roy because he liked what he saw of the Binding Blade during development.
- was a literal costume that got upgraded at the last minute.
- was added because Sakurai wanted a character from a game that had been released after Smash for Wii U. Among Nintendo's 2015 releases, Fire Emblem Fates was simply the game best suited to have a character in Smash. There's a Source Gaming article which breaks this down very well: https://www.sourcegaming.info/2018/01/08/corrin-best-dlc/
- was added because they simply wanted an echo which could appeal to a Japanese audience. Not only was Chrom a popular character who could easily echo another fighter, but he already had a model from the virtue of appearing in Robin's final smash.

We don't have 7 characters because Sakurai has a massive love affair with Fire Emblem, we have 7 characters because Fire Emblem characters were lucky enough to be able to plug certain holes in the roster. Without these opportunities, Fire Emblem would only have 3 fighters, Marth, Ike, and Robin. That's actually rather small given the size of Fire Emblem as a series.

 

[XorahnGaia]

Found this old photo on my camera roll.

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Can anyone cite where this tweet came from? Was it from the same one that was already outed as a fraud after Terry?

That's from Milk Bosatu (the guy that "leaked" a female character from a fighting game as FP4). I wouldn't bet anything on what he says, he clearly tried to save face with this tweet.

 

[Deleted member]

Holy ****, I hope this is getting revealed at this month’s potential Direct:

https://vandal.elespanol.com/notici...ndo-switch-podria-llegar-finalmente-a-europa/

Basically an european store may have leaked DQ Heroes 1+2 for Switch.

 

[Yacobo]

We don't have 7 characters because Sakurai has a massive love affair with Fire Emblem, we have 7 characters because Fire Emblem characters were lucky enough to be able to plug certain holes in the roster. Without these opportunities, Fire Emblem would only have 3 fighters, Marth, Ike, and Robin. That's actually rather small given the size of Fire Emblem as a series.

It makes way more sense that Sakurai likes FE than it just being incredibly lucky 20 years in a row. Considering that Chrom was literally the only non Uprising character in Palutenas Guidance, FE being one of the only series with specific win quotes, multiple characters getting unique victory themes, etc. it doesn't look like the work of someone who was forced into putting in FE content.

Holy ****, I hope this is getting revealed at this month’s potential Direct:

https://vandal.elespanol.com/notici...ndo-switch-podria-llegar-finalmente-a-europa/

Basically an european store may have leaked DQ Heroes 1+2 for Switch.

And it only took 3 years for them to give it to us!

 

[EricTheGamerman]

Holy ****, I hope this is getting revealed at this month’s potential Direct:

https://vandal.elespanol.com/notici...ndo-switch-podria-llegar-finalmente-a-europa/

Basically an european store may have leaked DQ Heroes 1+2 for Switch.

You can play a demo of the Japanese version if you make a Japanese account! It's not too, too difficult to navigate through it and doesn't require anything but some time. Fair warning, it doesn't run super well in that demo.

It's also the only other game besides Witcher 3 that I know uses the 32 GB card!

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Most of the characters I want that aren't already in the game are tied up in some other manner be it Pokeball, assist or Spirit.

Krystal, Gardevoir, Dixie Kong, Shantae...

Only ones not with those (supposed) restrictions are Gooigi, Crash Bandicoot and Spyro

 

[Ridrool64]

For the record, I don't actually think of Ike as a Marth, but without intimate knowledge of the characters like I have now, I doubt I'd see them totally differently. But I feel like that while's he's distinct, he's not as distinct as he could be. Where's Ragnell's ranged attack? Where are the Axes? Aether, since it's delegated into being Ike's recovery move, doesn't have what helps it stand out in canon. Ike in Smash isn't as different as I'd like him to be, even if his base moveset is already unique.

But enough about that... FP5 has totally drained me. I no longer care about it whatsoever anymore. Whoever it is, if they could just come sooner so we could end this madness, that'd be great.

Paper Mario and Crash Bandicoot are direct parts of my childhood I'm missing out on, and I experienced Symphonia during my formative years so I'd say Lloyd counts too (though I didn't start playing it until after Pac-Man got in, IIRC). While I've played Puyo for most of my life, Arle as a Smash contender isn't somebody I really thought about before 2017, and I didn't think much of Frisk for Smash before 2019. I don't really like discussions about characters you got, mostly because it just feels like rubbing it in for people who've been waiting for a while still, even if I, myself, got somebody I was pulling for. Also, for a while I wasn't particularly big on any characters. Maybe I don't remember very well, but ages ago I was only really big on Paper Mario, and nowhere near as much as I am with Arle right now. I liked K. Rool, I wasn't too opposed to Ridley, and back when even Mega Man wasn't in, he was a really cool pick too.

Characters who I specifically desired...? In Smash 4 it was nobody besides Mega Man, and kinda Roy? Also wanted Dr. Mario to be his own character, and still do, but if a roster resizing is necessary he's way more expendable to me now than he was 7 years ago. But I don't know if Roy, Mewtwo and Doc count since they were veterans. In Ultimate, King K. Rool finally happened and it was awesome, but by then I don't know if he was in my hierarchy still or if, while I still wanted him it wasn't as big as it used to be. Banjo and Kazooie took me by surprise, too, and it was great to see since I thought Hero was it for Smash at E3!

So I guess that means... Mega Man, King K. Rool, and Banjo. Doc/Roy/Mewtwo if veterans count. Before Smash 4 I wasn't an active fan during pre-release, so Brawl just happened. Melee was already there by the time I can remember. And 64 is older than me.

But that doesn't mean that I was particularly nonplussed with newcomers. Simon wasn't somebody I particularly cared about, and I legitimately think Alucard would've been the better choice regardless, but hey, Alucard was an Assist! All was right in the world. I also generally liked basically all of Smash 4's additions. Corrin was already an exception, because I was... not happy about Fire Emblem If at the time, but hey, they looked cool anyway. I probably got swept up in the bandwagon against them. Bayonetta was... I don't remember. I don't remember how I felt about Bayonetta being it. Cloud was really cool and I didn't think of it because I was around for the time where Cloud was considered a pipe dream. Ryu brought hope for so many characters who were considered out because somebody else from that 3rd party got in, it was a miracle. Wii Fit Trainer gave us unexpected twists! Ridley proved once and for all that what happens then isn't what happens now. Hero showed me the potential in a character I was convinced would be a hard sell.

Joker is perhaps the only character I did not like from the get go. I did not like him or his smug, punchable face. And right now? I'm a huge Persona fanboy. So yeah, Joker won me over... or rather his stage, and all of his party members did, and the music. Not necessarily him, though.

 

[EricTheGamerman]

Honestly, I’m happy with any inclusions as long as the fan base is happy. I have never played FE (Except a bit of Radiant Dawn) but I was generally happy to see FE characters included as it made fans happy. So really, any additions are good in my book. Not a fan of Steve? but I would be interest to see how he is included and the stage that comes with it. I am also not generally into Hayabusa but i would be happy to see him included.

As for other characters, I list of characters that I would like to see for different reasons:

2B (never played the game but I love the story, the gameplay, and, most importantly, the soundtrack)

Doomslayer (Been a Doom fan since the beginning)

Dovahkin (Huge Skyrim/TES fan. Almost to the same level as Mass Effect)

Geno (Been on my list since the 64 days)

Lloyd Irving (Tales of Symphonia helped me get through the death of a close friend and my dog so it has a soft spot in my heart)

Sora (Interesting moveset additions and getting Utada music in Smash would be awesome)

Kratos (It would be sheer amounts of craziness to see this happen. Also, Kratos Kirby makes me happy)

Master Chief (Much like Kratos, just sheer amounts of hype and craziness from the Internet.)

Scorpion (Just to see Kirby say “Get over here!” And getting the Mortal Kombat theme song)

Very nice list! While I don't share the connection with every one of them, it would be hard to deny they'd all be exciting picks. Geno, Master Chief, and Sora are all in my top 5 most wanted, and 2B would just be an all around great pick based upon what I've played of Automata. Kratos Kirby... now that's an interesting picture in my head... I think I like it haha.

Only one I'd be much more meh about is Dovahkin, but not so much for him as me love/hate relationship with Skyrim, which I think I recently went into more detail about. But I still can't deny Skyrim it's place in gaming at this point.

 

[lordvaati]

By the time we got Isabelle and K.Rool we got every satisfying character IMO.
Everything after that has been fun bonuses.

 

[Tako Tuesday]

If I had a nickel for every time a Fire Emblem related discussion has created drama, I'd be a millionaire.

 

[nessdeltarune00]

That's from Milk Bosatu (the guy that "leaked" a female character from a fighting game as FP4). I wouldn't bet anything on what he says, he clearly tried to save face with this tweet.

I see, thanks for the clarification.

Back to hiding from FP5 leaks.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Very nice list! While I don't share the connection with every one of them, it would be hard to deny they'd all be exciting picks. Geno, Master Chief, and Sora are all in my top 5 most wanted, and 2B would just be an all around great pick based upon what I've played of Automata. Kratos Kirby... now that's an interesting picture in my head... I think I like it haha.

Only one I'd be much more meh about is Dovahkin, but not so much for him as me love/hate relationship with Skyrim, which I think I recently went into more detail about. But I still can't deny Skyrim it's place in gaming at this point.

Joanna Dark and Meowth were also in my Pre-Melee list if I recall. I sunk so many hours into Perfect Dark and Golden Eye that it’s crazy. As for Meowth, it was a huge missed opportunity not to include him over Jiggly. Tons of potential there.

 

[Yacobo]

Speaking of directs, does anyone else usually come out of them thinking they were just okay despite looking forward to them almost constantly?

 

[Izanagi97]

Glad to see we're kicking the year off with stupid arguments about Fire Emblem.

 

[3BitSaurus]

Holy ****, I hope this is getting revealed at this month’s potential Direct:

https://vandal.elespanol.com/notici...ndo-switch-podria-llegar-finalmente-a-europa/

Basically an european store may have leaked DQ Heroes 1+2 for Switch.

Leaks from Europe, you say?

Yeah, we're getting something soon. The last 2 or 3 times this kinda **** happened, we got a Direct soon after.

 

[EricTheGamerman]

Speaking of directs, does anyone else usually come out of them thinking they were just okay despite looking forward to them almost constantly?

They generally are better experiences if you go in with lower expectations. My general rule of thumb is, I know something in this presentation will be new and excite me and that's about as far as I let my personal expectations go. I make more wild predictions when talking to friends and such, but that doesn't mean I necessarily expect those things all out.

Or, in recent months, "If I hear something about Smash, I'll be very satisfied" since the only Direct since March 2018 to not feature a large Smash segment was February 2019 and that still told us that a full update would be coming later on.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Here’s something that could be interest. Using this criteria, list the character that you feel best fits category!

Popularity:
Relevancy:
Importance:
Nostalgia:
Uniqueness:
Fun Factor:
Hype Inducer:
Meh-Low Key Add:
Sakurai Pick:
Ninty Exec Pick:
Smashboards Pick:
Gamefaqs Pick:
Twitter Pick:
WTF Pick:

I added a few more categories for funsies.