Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Hadokeyblade]

I've decided we need a playable mech in Smash. Not a summonable/Final Smash like Elma or Sakura, I want to actually play as a super robot. Now, obviously an actual Gundam is tragically out of the picture, but I feel like there's some mileage here. Mech suits are also acceptable. My immediate thoughts are D.Va, Tron Bonne, and a Super Robot Wars Original Generation character. I guess a Cyberbots character has a shot, but that's not very realistic.

Anyway, more mechs in Smash.

Level 5 gang rise up

 

[Deleted member]

Good morning everyone and here I am, in the last day of 2019!

Just to pass the time, LeakyPandy claims that promotional material for the next direct will be finished by January 3rd.

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January 8th was always my guess for the next direct with FP5 being shadow dropped later in the same day(mainly because of amiibo theory and a major patch being due soon because of the average length of each patcher interval being around 2 months).

Oh..this is going to be fun. Thank God it isn't during my appointment date.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Leaky pandy may get the CONTENTS of directs wrong

But he usually gets the dates right, so...

 

[Fenriraga]

So wait, the "promotional" stuff being done by then would mean it's sometime after the third, right?

 

[XorahnGaia]

Just to pass the time, LeakyPandy claims that promotional material for the next direct will be finished by January 3rd.

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January 8th was always my guess for the next direct with FP5 being shadow dropped later in the same day(mainly because of amiibo theory and a major patch being due soon because of the average length of each patcher interval being around 2 months).

Isn't LeakyPandy the prime example of "Twitter insider that doesn't know anything but is trusted anyway just because they had one or two lucky guesses in the past"?

 

[Flyboy]

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention one key detail.


If Naegi ever got into Smash, I always thought that it could very likely be a Hero situation with Hajime, Kaede, and Shuichi. And it would combine moves from all of the forementioned games (the liar bullets, every single gadget and minigame worked into it, practically almost every pro you have mentioned combined).


How would you feel about that?

Kaede is my girl and one of my favorite fictional characters ever so, yeah, I'd be down. As long as each skin gets a little extra animation and flavor to represent them, that'd be cool.

 

[Calamitas]

Leaky pandy may get the CONTENTS of directs wrong

But he usually gets the dates right, so...

Do they? What Direct dates did they get correct? I'm not really up to date on their general track record, other than the fact that they don't really get much stuff correctly.

 

[nessdeltarune00]

Do they? What Direct dates did they get correct? I'm not really up to date on their general track record, other than the fact that they don't really get much stuff correctly.

They got the 3/8/18 direct date right.


And they correctly predicted the timeframe for the 8/8/18 Smash Direct.

 

[Naoyatodo]

Just to pass the time, LeakyPandy claims that promotional material for the next direct will be finished by January 3rd.

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January 8th was always my guess for the next direct with FP5 being shadow dropped later in the same day(mainly because of amiibo theory and a major patch being due soon because of the average length of each patcher interval being around 2 months).

Assuming this is true, what does this mean? Would the Direct be a week after the 3rd, or an entire month? Not sure how far along it would be made when the promotional material is done. Side note, I have no idea what promotional material entails.

In other news, Not Sabi is doing... something.

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[Icedragonadam]

Assuming this is true, what does this mean? Would the Direct be a week after the 3rd, or an entire month? Not sure how far along it would be made when the promotional material is done. Side note, I have no idea what promotional material entails.

In other news, Not Sabi is doing... something.

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Having trailers from game companies that have games or DLC coming to Switch submitted to Nintendo before the deadline.

 

[Gentlepanda]

leakypandy is somewhat reliable with direct dates but direct dates are also much easier to predict than the contents of directs

colour me skeptical because a promo deadline on the 3rd also means the direct could be any time within the next 2 months excluding this week and leakypandy could still claim that their info was correct, it was just internal stuff being organised

 

[XorahnGaia]

Also many people pointed out that even IF this is true, then the Direct will probably air in late January/early February considering that material is gathered and put together weeks in advance of the Direct airing.

 

[KillerCage]

how do you Guys think his chances look for post pass dlc?
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I think they’re good with mcc coming to switch

I wanted Master Chief in Smash ever since we got Cloud.
Considering Microsoft's current relationship with Nintendo, he is no longer an impossibility.
COME ON CHIEF! FINISH THE FIGHT!

Just to pass the time, LeakyPandy claims that promotional material for the next direct will be finished by January 3rd.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

January 8th was always my guess for the next direct with FP5 being shadow dropped later in the same day(mainly because of amiibo theory and a major patch being due soon because of the average length of each patcher interval being around 2 months).

Wait a minute. I thought LeakyPandy was unreliable.
What has he gotten right besides Direct dates?

 

[SNEKeater]

I don't want the direct annoucements being leaked, if anything I would like to know when we can expect the direct to happen lol

 

[nessdeltarune00]

Also many people pointed out that even IF this is true, then the Direct will probably air in late January/early February considering that material is gathered and put together weeks in advance of the Direct airing.

Highly doubt it because every character release so far has coincided with every Amiibo wave (next one is Jan 17)

 

[Animegamingnerd]

Having the deadline for companies to have their materials ready for the direct be the third, is just weird to me since that is only 2 days after news years day. Doesn't seem like a good deadline since marketing teams would of only just got back from break.

 

[Cosmic77]

I know most people consider it infallible, but the amiibo theory could end up being nothing more than a freaky coincidence.

They released a bunch of Smash amiibo for the cut vets and newcomers, and each wave has released every other month, with April/July being the only exception (W1 - December, W2 - February, W3 - April, W4 - July, W5 - September, W6- November, W7 - January). So a Direct could possibly show up January, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was February either.

Also, I wouldn't count on this trend continuing for much longer. Now that all the base game characters have been added, expect amiibo releases to slow down.

 

[dream1ng]

Leakypandy is not a reliable source, and even if what they say is true, Directs are culled far enough in advance that a deadline at the beginning of January would be more indicative of a late Jan/early Feb Direct than one happening less than a week later. That would be unrealistic.

But, as said, they're not a credible source anyway.

 

[nessdeltarune00]

I know most people consider it infallible, but the amiibo theory could end up being nothing more than a freaky coincidence.

They released a bunch of Smash amiibo for the cut vets and newcomers, and each wave has released every other month, with April/July being the only exception (W1 - December, W2 - February, W3 - April, W4 - July, W5 - September, W6- November, W7 - January). So a Direct could possibly show up January, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was February either.

Also, I wouldn't count on this trend continuing for much longer. Now that all the base game characters have been added, expect amiibo releases to slow down.

Once is a chance, Twice is a coincidence, Thrice is a pattern.

When it gets to Four times? I don’t even know what its called at that point.

There is a reason why many people believe in “Amiibo Theory” atm.

 

[Icedragonadam]

Once is a chance, Twice is a coincidence, Thrice is a pattern.

When it gets to Four times? I don’t even know what its called at that point.

There is a reason why many people believe in “Amiibo Theory” atm.

It should be pretty obvious by now that the DLC characters were being deliberately released within the timeframe of each amiibo release. And Sakurai himself was even saying in his FP character moveset videos, of the new amiibo that were released or going to be released soon.

 

[Cosmic77]

Once is a chance, Twice is a coincidence, Thrice is a pattern.

When it gets to Four times? I don’t even know what its called at that point.

There is a reason why many people believe in “Amiibo Theory” atm.

Releasing every other month isn't that abnormal for amiibo schedules. Quite a few of Smash 4's amiibo followed a similar pattern.

I don't really believe the amiibo are indicative of new characters though. They could've swapped the schedule and had amiibo release on every month we didn't get a character and people would still say that there was a pattern.

 

[AceAttorney9000]

I don't want the direct annoucements being leaked, if anything I would like to know when we can expect the direct to happen lol

Seconded.

I can live without any specific announcements being leaked (even if it's something that would be exciting like one of my most wanted characters being the next, or two character reveals instead of one). Just give me a date, and I'll be a good little boy and wait.

 

[Animegamingnerd]

I know most people consider it infallible, but the amiibo theory could end up being nothing more than a freaky coincidence.

They released a bunch of Smash amiibo for the cut vets and newcomers, and each wave has released every other month, with April/July being the only exception (W1 - December, W2 - February, W3 - April, W4 - July, W5 - September, W6- November, W7 - January). So a Direct could possibly show up January, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was February either.

Also, I wouldn't count on this trend continuing for much longer. Now that all the base game characters have been added, expect amiibo releases to slow down.

As someone who has laughed at theories like color and especially google theory. Something that gives Amiibo theory credit is how they actually have to patch in the data for the newly released Amiibo I believe as I don't think they were on the cart.

 

[Cosmic77]

As someone who has laughed at theories like color and especially google theory. Something that gives Amiibo theory credit is how they actually have to patch in the data for the newly released Amiibo I believe as I don't think they were on the cart.

Doesn't necessarily have to coincide with the release of a character though. As long as they update the game before the figure is released, it doesn't matter when they patch it. If there's already an update planned, then sure, it'd make more sense to add the amiibo then and save people from having to update the game twice.

But like I said in my earlier post, I don't think this trend will continue much longer now that all base game characters have amiibo. It usually takes about nine months to make an amiibo, and since amiibo typically come out in waves of two or more, I think the number of character reveals will be greater than amiibo releases.

 

[Deleted member]

Fighter 5’s trailer leaked:

 

[SvartWolf]

oh noes.... i accidentally dropped a link to a full darkstalkers anime with decent characters and amazing animation. i really hope noone notice and ends watching it all since is it aged pretty well, and ends understanding Darkstalkers charm and why i still a fairly beloved "series" that havent got a new game in ages DX.

 

[Deleted member]

oh noes.... i accidentally dropped a link to a full darkstalkers anime with decent characters and amazing animation. i really hope noone notice and ends watching it all since is it aged pretty well, and ends understanding Darkstalkers charm and why i still a fairly beloved "series" that havent got a new game in ages DX.

I saw that OVA many months ago.

Overall: I loved the world it presented and the characters.

Darkstalkers in Smash would indeed be really awesome.

 

[Idon]

oh noes.... i accidentally dropped a link to a full darkstalkers anime with decent characters and amazing animation. i really hope noone notice and ends watching it all since is it aged pretty well, and ends understanding Darkstalkers charm and why i still a fairly beloved "series" that havent got a new game in ages DX.

Daily reminder:


Still waiting.

 

[SvartWolf]

Daily reminder:
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Still waiting.

as long as there are crossovers stuff, Darktslakers will never be dead.

you know this is true, :3

 

[Deleted member]

oh noes.... i accidentally dropped a link to a full darkstalkers anime with decent characters and amazing animation. i really hope noone notice and ends watching it all since is it aged pretty well, and ends understanding Darkstalkers charm and why i still a fairly beloved "series" that havent got a new game in ages DX.

HOLY SHOOT WAIT WHA-

Nah nvm I saw that on Kissanime...dope anime tho

 

[Michael the Spikester]

how do you Guys think his chances look for post pass dlc?

I think they’re good with mcc coming to switch

He along with KOS-MOS are my bet who FP5 is actually.

 

[KatKit]

It is finished! This... wasn't as easy as I'd like, but it's a super fun concept, IMO. Honestly, I put wayyy too much effort into this, especially since I'm on mobile. But I think it'll make at least one person happy, so that's all that matters to me. It was also a neat challenge; I've never played the game or even heard of the character until today. I'd like this to be a reminder to just accept whatever comes our way with an open mind, because it'll fulfill at least one wish. Learning about the character made me interested as well; I had no idea this was the first circus based videogame. I tried my hardest to capture the feel of the acrobatics; I love how momentum-based the game looked.

Anyway, as stated, Charlie would be unrivaled in the air, at the cost of his ground game. To compensate, he has the unique ability to charge aerial attacks. Most of his special moves also make him airborne. Due to the nature of how some of the attacks work, opponents will be forced to carefully watch Charlie perform them before safely approaching. The battle will feel like he's putting on a show, and you are his audience!

Neutral Special: Monkey.

Pressing the button causes Charlie to place a monkey on the ground in front him. Charlie can only use one monkey at a time. It deals no damage, but it acts as a barrier/obstacle. Opponents can attack the monkey; similar to Pacman's hydrant, when opponents cause enough damage to it, it can fly and harm Charlie. Monkeys destroy Charlie's ball; avoid running over them.

Holding down the button causes the monkey to move and attack instead. The longer the button is held, the farther the monkey will travel. The monkey deals very little damage, but it breaks shields: it is more effective to jump over it!

Side Special: Lion.

Charlie mounts a lion that runs forwards. Press the special button again to jump. Press to jump off of the lion. The lion can be used as an additional jump. The lion jumps in an arc like:

Down Special: Trampoline/Trapeze

This up special move has three parts to it. Simply pressing the button once causes Charlie to bounce upwards off of a trampoline.

Pressing it again spawns a trapeze. Charlie will be suspended in midair, first rocking backwards

Then forwards. The first time he moves forwards is an attack, but after that, the move no longer deals damage. Charlie can swing back and forth on the trapeze up to three times before falling off. If he is attacked while swinging, it will result in Charlie being put into freefall. Finally, pressing the button again causes Charlie to jump off of the trapeze. When Charlie lands on the ground, he takes a quick bow. If you listen closely, you can hear quick/quite applause.

Down Special: Ball Walk/Bounce

This move has two versions: 1 for the ground, the other for the air. On the ground, press the button for a ball to spawn underneath Charlie. Charlie can then try to roll over opponents. The ball's movement is slow, but it buries enemies that get hit by it. Press to jump off of it. The attack lasts for 15 seconds, or until Charlie jumps off of it. You must wait 15 seconds before using it again. There's a deflated ball meter that gradually pumps up as an indicator for when the attack is ready.

When used in the air, the ball bounces and gradually gains momentum, getting higher with each bounce. You can control which direction the ball bounces each time. Each time the ball hits the ground, it deals damage to opponents. On the final bounce, Charlie is thrown high into the air, and the ball bursts. Charlie can cancel the attack at any time by jumping off of it. Here's a visual for reference:

Final Smash: Charlie rides a horse. If it hits you, cue circus performance, that one jingle, and an explosion.

Smash Attack: In the lion gif above, you see Charlie jumping over flaming jar things. He carries one of those and drops it like Villager. Leaves flame residue on the ground that doesn't damage opponents. However, this move can be used in tandem with Charlie's...

Forward Tilt: Charlie tosses a hula hoop ring forward. Does little damage. However, you can toss the hoop into the flames left behind by his smash attack for extra damage.

Up Smash: Fireworks like Villager.

Down Smash: Charlie carries two money bags and slams them on the ground. Has a rare chance of a coin popping out and hitting above him.


Grabs: Charlie's grab is a rope/tether recovery. If you're wondering why he's using as lasso, it's not because he's a rodeo clown. That rope is his tightrope!

He's a clown so I'd imagine the buzzer hand as his back throw, the squirt flower as his forward throw, etc. Cheesy little gags, to flesh out the character and reference the circus. Visuals for reference:

Victory animation:

His taunts are three different balloon animals: an elephant, a lion, and a horse.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

On another note. Being absent for most of the day was worth. Seems like we may get an Direct soon enough!

Hopefully.

 

[Nap_]

I can assure you that Leaky Pandy is just pure trolling but seeing how it grows and become more noticeable is quite an entertainment.

 

[Night Gale]

I feel like everybody and their grandma is expecting a direct soon. Stop validating those attention whores.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I feel like everybody and their grandma is expecting a direct soon. Stop validating those attention whores.

Can you blame us though? We're desperate at this point given the drought.

So...Thirsty...

 

[Krankees]

Can you blame us though? We're desperate at this point given the drought.

So...Thirsty...

I'm fine with waiting, I think it will be early January but I'm prepping myself for possibly late January or in February.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

When I thought about the idea of zero Smash info at the game wards, I worried about the mental stability of the thread.

now we are nearing January, the idea of not getting any Smash info until February fills me a dread that very few things could.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

now we are nearing January, the idea of not getting any Smash info until February fills me a dread that very few things could.

Same here. I don't know if I'm just trying to keep expectations low but I have a rather gut feeling about it...

 

[Deleted member]

I can stand 2 more months without Smash news, tbqh.

Had a worse time waiting for news on the X-Men DLC for UA3.