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It seems the only real "rule" left out there is not including non-video game characters, but perhaps that could also be ruled out as well when James Bond was once considered for Melee because of Goldeneye's popularity.
At this point, the only potential newcomers I think belong in Smash that have any chance are Banjo, Sora, and Dante.
I was literally writing that post with MvC in mind haha, I'm a huge fan of it for that reason too.
I just dislike clones, and I think having three Links is pretty gratuitous. No matter how much I love Wind Waker, it still just feels like a waste.
Not really. He dismissed the character partially(and rather fast) because he wasn't from a game. Which the main reason was due to licensing(which so far has been very difficult to get for a lot of popular non-game characters like Goku). Another at the time was realistic firearms. But licensing was the biggest role in what we know as to why he doesn't allow non-game characters in. There's a thought he's going for the "Greatest Video Game Fighting Game Crossover ever", but we don't know for sure if that correlates to why he won't add one in. Cause technically if you're in a game alone, you can be a video game character. He hasn't made anything beyond licensing as a direct reason clear. He's described these characters as either too hard to license or "impossible". Never a case of "I don't like the idea".
It's a funny thought, that. Even though this is supposedly the one big rule for limiting characters, even then, there is no guarantee it will never be broken.
"Probably won't" is a more reasonable way to put it.
I'm pretty sure he already would do so if it was easy enough. He might want to finish the roster of some major game characters first, though. That's where his priority is. Licensing is still far bigger than some rule that is misunderstood heavily. You need to go through, what was it, 5 different IP holders to get to Goku? Ones who charge a lot too? He's not feasible at this time. Funny thing is we have similar issues with Square-Enix properties(which is pretty much why they're lacking in content in many areas. They're a licensing nightmare).
See that's entirely subjective. There are plenty of characters that could be in due to popularity, history, or concept alone.
So Batman, Spider-Man, Shrek and Spongebob when then?
I don't have to justify or explain why Gordeau is a better choice than anything anyone else can list for me.
Fair enough if you don't like their games or have experience with them, but it's odd to dispute their legacies as something that doesn't "belong" in Smash.
If Smash was a multiplatform game that wasn't exclusively beholden to Nintendo and Nintendo's way of doing things, I would see where you're coming from. You see Smash as this all-inclusive free-for-all of video game history. I see it as a celebration of Nintendo's history first and foremost, with a few guests here and there. It's never been about games in general to me.
And? People can want cultural icons all they want. Goku is pretty much one of the few characters that is extremely requested to justify putting in. There's some others who are far big enough(including everyone but Shrek, who is mostly a joke suggestion, unlike the other 4 overall).
Sakurai as well as Reggie has directly stated it's a "gaming crossover" now. It's no longer treated as "Nintendo with a few guests." You should keep this in mind when trying to predict characters. It used to be like that, but that was really only in Brawl at best. You could still argue 4 as well, but Ultimate has a different narrative now.
Seems you're stuck on the Brawl era, Smash is more about just Nintendo now and characters like joker and Cloud exemplify that. If it was just about Nintendo nowadays I wouldn't be as interested now with the series.
For someone that dismisses so many characters for arbitrary reasons, I'm surprised you didn't write off Sora.
Yeah, this new era of Nintendo is funny when you think about it since the Switch is seeing more cheesecake ever since Sony moved their HQ to California and started censoring a lot of ****
Honestly, the only rule I see sticking is no characters from Anime or Manga
Funny thing is I can see them making some exceptions for characters who originated from literature (like the Witcher) or visual novels (like the Fate series) if said literature is known more for video game adaptions rather than the actual books and depending on if Visual Novels are technically video games
Yeah, licensing is enough of a nightmare for game characters. Imagine the hell required for Goku, Mickey Mouse and characters who are huge cultural icons.
I won't buy into that narrative until the roster is no longer dominated by first party reps.
None of my reasons for dismissing any character have been arbitrary.
Strangely you went with Dante, despite DMC being the one Capcom IP out of ones usually mentioned with the least amount of Nintendo history.
I've conceded before that I think the Fighter Pass will exclusively have third party characters, just because they're inherently more exciting and likely to drive more sales.
Too bad your narrative has no basis in reality here. Sakurai's narrative trumps yours hands down. It's his game, not yours. He makes it. He automatically wins in this particular case. You absolutely do not have to like his decisions, of course. But pretending his exact words are somehow wrong is beyond ridiculous.
Now that makes a lot more sense than what you said before. That's a good reason on why it would stay that way. (I don't think it alone would prevent a non-game third party from getting in, of course. But eh, to each their own).
Your image kind of doesn't work. You should make sure the image is embedded, not linked, to get the full effect.
Yes it does. Sakurai is a businessman.
So you dismiss characters that aren't family Friendly but you want Dante as DLC.
How does that even make sense?
I never said I wanted Dante.
Gonna have to disagree pretty hard with this one.
No, it has no basis in reality. You're not making any sense. Him being a businessman is irrelevant.
- Master Chief is from an M-rated series of FPS games which may not be the most violent on the market, but are still too family unfriendly for Smash. He has no place, and isn't worth discussing. Same with Nathan Drake and Lara Croft (the latter of whom is misogyny incarnate), although less so. Same with Resident Evil, but even more so.
It was an image with the Judge from PW saying "I can tell you're grasping, yet I cannot deny the possibility of what you're saying". That's how I ultimately feel about non-VG characters.
I've always had a thought that a Musou rep is possible despite Musou games usually being based off of things like historical figures, video game franchises, and anime franchises (and Dynasty Warriors being based off of the Romance of the 3 Kingdoms novel that was also based off of Chinese history lol). I don't know much about Fate, but adding a character like Geralt or Lu Bu to Smash would be fascinating to see if the licensing process happens to be easier than any anime, comic, or movie franchises out there.
His Final Smash would have to be the BFG. It can't be anything else.
