Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Deleted member]

its honestly wack that reimu is being treated as a serious contender. if sans, shovel knight and shantae, indies with bigger presence and more demand on both sides of the pond, got hit with the mii, assist trophy and spirit stick then what chance does reimu have of getting in?

Either that or Japanese bias.

 

[osby]

All this KOS-MOS talk is getting me down. Altough she hasn't been confirmed yet, all evidences are pointing towards her. I'll retreat for now, when something more insteresting than another ****ing anime character being rumored as a possible contender, i'll come back.

KOS-MOS is actually another ****ing manga character:

It's a common mistake.

 

[Shroob]

its honestly wack that reimu is being treated as a serious contender. if sans, shovel knight and shantae, indies with bigger presence and more demand on both sides of the pond, got hit with the mii, assist trophy and spirit stick then what chance does reimu have of getting in?

Well the Reimu leak is apparently dead.


But that's one hell of an assumption to assume that Reimu has zero demand on the other side of the pond.


I haven't seen any conventions dedicated solely to Shovel Knight or Undertale, unlike Reitaisai in Japan for Touhou, that have gone on for over a decade, twice a year.

 

[MissingGlitch]

Oh no, a Japanese game having a character from a game from Japan, whatever will we do. /s

I used to think like that as well. But i've come to the realization that the game's artstyle is of course going to make all the human characters fit in with each other.

More western characters would be nice though.

 

[SneakyLink]

Well the Reimu leak is apparently dead.


But that's one hell of an assumption to assume that Reimu has zero demand on the other side of the pond.


I haven't seen any conventions dedicated solely to Shovel Knight or Undertale, unlike Reitaisai in Japan for Touhou, that have gone on for over a decade, twice a year.

Only Cat leak is dead. It ran out of lives.
The Doujin rumor implicating Reimu in Smash is still alive.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Honestly, the game awards can’t come soon enough, cause once sabi leaves, this will be a clean slate for the entire smash base, a new era.

The **** you mean new era not only is Verge still around but there's also more DLC

Oh no, a Japanese game having a character from a game from Japan, whatever will we do. /s

Smash fans when a Japanese character gets added or they're asked to do a quarter circle forward/shower

 

[BlackInk]

Either that or Japanese bias.

Japan bias. Nintendo picked Team Cherry out of all of the indie teams to be in their Chinese thing. Cause, http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...st_recommended_digital_switch_game_this_month

 

[Plank08]

Also, since Kosmos has a chance of happening, does anyone have a Kosmos moveset I can sink my teeth into? Movesets and music is the best way of winning me over if I don’t already know who they are

 

[PrettyIvyPearls22]

All this KOS-MOS talk is getting me down. Altough she hasn't been confirmed yet, all evidences are pointing towards her. I'll retreat for now, when something more insteresting than another ****ing anime character being rumored as a possible contender, i'll come back.

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This guy seem to forget that Smash is a Japanese game, you know, where anime comes from!

 

[BernkastelWitch]

its honestly wack that reimu is being treated as a serious contender. if sans, shovel knight and shantae, indies with bigger presence and more demand on both sides of the pond, got hit with the mii, assist trophy and spirit stick then what chance does reimu have of getting in?

She's one of the only logical choices left for an Indie rep and Touhou is unique that it's big enough in Japan for it to have its own convention and has the bgigest doujin circles around.

Yeah, yeah "In Japan" and people will likely use that as a point against her but I feel like with Sakurai, he probably won't care about International appeal all too much if a character has some amount of history. Reimu does have history because Touhou popularized Bullet Hells and is one of the logical Indies left.

Quote would count buuuut.... with how questionable Niantic has been, I am iffy on them as much as I like Cave Story.

 

[MissingGlitch]

Smash fans when a Japanese character gets added or they're asked to do a quarter circle forward/shower

I think I've seen more people complaining about smash fans not knowing about Terry's combos than people that actually complain about Terry's combos.

 

[Plank08]

The **** you mean new era not only is Verge still around but there's also more DLC

Smash fans when a Japanese character gets added or they're asked to do a quarter circle forward/shower
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New era as in no more of Sabis Bulls###, and Vergeben is no where near as big as a problem as sabi has been.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I think I've seen more people complaining about smash fans not knowing about Terry's combos then people that actually complain about Terry's combos.

It was primarily an issue for people when Ryu came out but people act like qcfs are so ****ing hard when it's easier than most **** in the game

 

[Shroob]

New era as in no more of Sabis Bulls###, and Vergeben is no where near as big as a problem as sabi has been.

Depends entirely if Sabi suddenly slams down a name before the game awards.


If they do, and they're right, we're never getting rid of 'em.


We still got 4 days, a lot of **** can happen.

 

[Banado_Boy]

I've posted a bunch of this stuff on the KOS-MOS support thread a while ago, but I thought it'd be relevant right now since we're talking about these KOS-MOS "leaks". Even if all of them turn out to be fake, there's still quite a bit of stuff that I think could potentially help her:

• She is the face of one of Nintendo's first party studios, Monolith Soft, despite her being owned by Bandai Namco
• She made an special guest appearance in a Nintendo-made Xeno game as a blade alongside T-ELOS, a game that Sakurai himself praised
• Namco likes to insert her in a bunch of ****; they could possibly do the same with Smash
• Harada, General Brand Manager of Namco, has stated in the past that he would get Namco to make a Xenosaga HD Collection if there was enough fan demand for it. Smash could help with this
• Soraya Saga, the wife of Xeno-series creator Tetsuya Takahashi, announced back in October that she would be abstaining from retweeting Nintendo Directs in order "to avoid being involved in speculation" a couple weeks after Xenoblade Chronicles: DE was announced. She normally retweets these whenever something Monolith-related is to be shown (which could imply that she's trying to keep the surprise for more Monolith/Xeno-related announcements in the future, like maybe a potential Smash character). This could also just mean jack and she's just tired of people pestering her about the retweeting
• Companies haven't repeated yet for the Fighter's Pass. This could obviously change, but I don't think that's likely
• So far, none of our 3rd-party Mii Fighters have upgraded to playable status yet in this Fighter's Pass. The missing Namco Mii Fighters could possibly be hinting at a Namco inclusion, whether it be Fighter Pack #5 or post-pass. (I'm personally hoping that if Mii costumes do return with KOS-MOS, if she's Fighter Pack #5, Lloyd avoids getting costume'd and it's only the Gil and Heihachi costumes (sorry Tekken fans) that return with her)
• It is Monolith Soft's 20th anniversary. Xenoblade Chronicles has become a popular series for Nintendo in recent years. With Xeno this and Xeno that becoming more talked about, maybe Namco could want to capitalize on that popularity by advertising their own Xeno series in Smash

I suppose we'll have to wait and see if any of this **** means anything for her. Hopefully this week goes by quick (and hopefully a Game Awards Smash reveal actually happens).

 

[Plank08]

Depends entirely if Sabi suddenly slams down a name before the game awards.


If they do, and they're right, we're never getting rid of 'em.


We still got 4 days, a lot of **** can happen.

The worst possible timeline

 

[Seanapotamus]

I think you guys are taking this TGA leak with too much certainty

The reason why that particular leak popped up again is because it mentioned KH3 ReMind (which is happening) and KOS-MOS is still on the table, and PapaGenos talked about it in his newest video. However, because it's on 4chan (and we know how most of the leaks on there are fake) it's very difficult to verify, thus it should be taken with not only a grain of salt, but a salt shaker.

 

[Plank08]

The reason why that particular leak popped up again is because it mentioned KH3 ReMind (which is happening) and KOS-MOS is still on the table, and PapaGenos talked about it in his newest video. However, because it's on 4chan (and we know how most of the leaks on there are fake) it's very difficult to verify, thus it should be taken with not only a grain of salt, but a salt shaker.

That’s like, one thing, and it was fairly obvious
Yeah not gonna get too hyped up about this guys, Genoslayer all the way.

 

[ES. Dinah]

All this KOS-MOS talk is getting me down. Altough she hasn't been confirmed yet, all evidences are pointing towards her. I'll retreat for now, when something more insteresting than another ****ing anime character being rumored as a possible contender, i'll come back.

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Dont come back if you're going to be an ass to any Japanese character.

 

[Animegamingnerd]

All this KOS-MOS talk is getting me down. Altough she hasn't been confirmed yet, all evidences are pointing towards her. I'll retreat for now, when something more insteresting than another ****ing anime character being rumored as a possible contender, i'll come back.

Getting mad at a Japanese game adding Japanese characters, is like getting mad at a football fan rooting for their home town's team.

 

[GoodGrief741]

So wow if cat leak is dead then all those KOS-MOS TGA leaks that looked like piggyback and now this big tga leak.... all guessed the character correctly?

What are these TGA leaks you're referring to?

 

[BlackInk]

I've posted a bunch of this stuff on the KOS-MOS support thread a while ago, but I thought it'd be relevant right now since we're talking about these KOS-MOS "leaks". Even if all of them turn out to be fake, there's still quite a bit of stuff that could potentially help her:

• She is the face of one of Nintendo's first party studios, Monolith Soft, despite her being owned by Bandai Namco
• She made an special guest appearance in a Nintendo-made Xeno game as a blade alongside T-ELOS, a game that Sakurai himself praised
• Namco likes to insert her in a bunch of ****; they could possibly do the same with Smash
• Harada, General Brand Manager of Namco, has stated in the past that he would get Namco to make a Xenosaga HD Collection if there was enough fan demand for it. Smash could help with this
• Soraya Saga, the wife of Xeno-series creator Tetsuya Takahashi, announced back in October that she would be abstaining from retweeting Nintendo Directs in order "to avoid being involved in speculation" a couple weeks after Xenoblade Chronicles: DE was announced. She normally retweets these whenever something Monolith-related is to be shown (which could imply that she's trying to keep the surprise for more Monolith/Xeno-related announcements in the future, like maybe a potential Smash character). This could also just mean jack and she's just tired of people pestering her about the retweeting
• Companies haven't repeated yet for the Fighter's Pass. This could obviously change, but I don't think that's likely
• So far, none of our 3rd-party Mii Fighters have upgraded to playable status yet in this Fighter's Pass. The missing Namco Mii Fighters could possibly be hinting at a Namco inclusion, whether it be Fighter Pack #5 or post-pass. (I'm personally hoping that if Mii costumes do return with KOS-MOS, if she's Fighter Pack #5, Lloyd avoids getting costume'd and it's only the Gil and Heihachi costumes (sorry Tekken fans) that return with her)
• It is Monolith Soft's 20th anniversary. Xenoblade Chronicles has become a popular series for Nintendo in recent years. With Xeno this and Xeno that becoming more talked about, maybe Namco could want to capitalize on that popularity by advertising their own Xeno series in Smash

I suppose we'll have to wait and see if any of this **** means anything for her chances in Smash. Hopefully this week goes by quick (and hopefully a Game Awards Smash reveal actually happens).

You forgot to put in “the stupid Rex mii is attached to the 25$ pass.” I’m joking and a bit serious with the response.

 

[Shroob]

"Noooo you don't understand! Smash is only for American picks! Ridley, K.Rool and Banjo are for AMERICANS! Japan got their ONE character with Hero keep that weeb **** out of MY AMERICAN game we have enough Fire Emblem anime swoooooooooooords!"


HEAVY /S

 

[osby]

To be honest, I can't even follow which leaks we are arguing right now. I'm just here for the ride.

Getting mad at a Japanese game adding Japanese characters, is like getting mad at a football fan rooting for their home town's team.

I wonder if any Western crossover games get **** because they have too many Sunday morning cartoon characters.

 

[Deleted member]

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"Noooo you don't understand! Smash is only for American picks! Ridley, K.Rool and Banjo are for AMERICANS! Japan got their ONE character with Hero keep that weeb **** out of MY AMERICAN game we have enough Fire Emblem anime swoooooooooooords!"


HEAVY /S

So much Western supremacy. All trying to prove themsekves superior in Smash.

This is why I boycotted Western culture.

 

[MissingGlitch]

It does suck having a lot of western picks and knowing they have much lower chances than a japanese made character. :v

I just want the door to be open a bit more for them.

 

[Wrathful_Scythe]

Ah, another light discussion with lots of positivity again, I see? Come on guys, last stretch. Everyone will be enlightened by the end of the week.

 

[Droodle]

That’s like, one thing, and it was fairly obvious
Yeah not gonna get too hyped up about this guys, Genoslayer all the way.

I honestly think that the bigger thing is that Geoff originally stated to expect 10 new reveals, and from what I've heard he changed it to expect around 15 new reveals.

This 4chan leak is stated TGA to have around 14 reveals, which lines up.

KH was a pretty easy guess IMO.
HZD PC has also been rumored for a while.

Clock Tower is a series literally no one ever talks about, so if it does end up happening; then this leak definitely has some truth to it.

And now on top of everything Vergeben has backtracked on deconfirming KOS-MOS; because his source didn't know she was Namco Bandai.

 

[Deleted member]

It does suck having a lot of western picks and knowing they have much lower chances than a japanese made character. :v

I just want the door to be open a bit more for them.

Honestly they believe everything should cater to them. They should give chance to others next time.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

All this KOS-MOS talk is getting me down. Altough she hasn't been confirmed yet, all evidences are pointing towards her. I'll retreat for now, when something more insteresting than another ****ing anime character being rumored as a possible contender, i'll come back.

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"Another anime character"

If, IF, it does turn out to be Kos-Mos that would mean that this is the first female of the Pass, the first android in Smash, the first character to use laser canons, and the first 3rd part character to be canonical to a first party game to ever get in. She's got a lot of things going for her besides "anime" but like it's a Japanese game. You don't have lots of them but this? This is a bruh moment.

 

[Plank08]

I honestly think that the bigger thing is that Geoff originally stated to expect 10 new reveals, and from what I've heard he changed it to expect around 15 new reveals.

This 4chan leak is stated TGA to have around 14 reveals, which lines up.

KH was a pretty easy guess IMO.
HZD PC has also been rumored for a while.

Clock Tower is a series literally no one ever talks about, so if it does end up happening; then this leak definitely has some truth to it.

And now on top of everything Vergeben has backtracked on deconfirming KOS-MOS; because his source didn't know she was Namco Bandai.

You know what, that actually is intresting.
I’m gonna go to her thread and learn more about her.

 

[Deleted member]

the first female of the Pass,

I'm just crying tears of joy after that statement...

 

[Shroob]

Would KOS-MOS explain the Gun?

 

[Plank08]

Would KOS-MOS explain the Gun?

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“Ah yeah, it’s all coming together”

 

[osby]

Would KOS-MOS explain the Gun?

Pokemon Gun was Super Smash Bros Ultimate all along.

 

[Deleted member]

Man if I ever take up fishing this thread would be one of my favorite spots

 

[Strider_Bond00J]

Would KOS-MOS explain the Gun?

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That's a plausible outcome. It could also factor into something like E.S. Dinah being part of KOS-MOS's Final Smash what with it being a giant mecha.

 

[MissingGlitch]

Jeez I'm starting to feel real bad for having western picks for fears I'll be lumped in with the people you all are making fun of.

 

[GKMLTTSB]

Giant Laser Final Smash? How pedestrian.
This is a Final Smash:

Clock Tower is a series literally no one ever talks about, so if it does end up happening; then this leak definitely has some truth to it.

As it turns out, I am literally no one. :-(

 

[Deleted member]

Jeez I'm starting to feel real bad for having western picks for fears I'll be lumped in with the people you all are making fun of.

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This is why I am boycotting all Western media and sticking with the Orient. Feel refreshing after all the mess...