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Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

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super88cloud

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BlackInk said:
It’s hilarious how the progression went with it. It goes from fake, then a ridiculously big look on her from an outsider’s point of view, and towards a possible real leak.



Really dude? It’s goddamn Japan.
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I think I understand where the guy who doesn´t like KOS-MOS comes from. It´s not necesarily that it´s an anime character( we know she isn´t) but that her artstyle is, too busy or boring. It´s cool that it´s a female character but Kos-Mos doesn´t seem like she has a very interesting personality at first glance. She looks like a million other blue haired characters that are born sexy. Like if you got a Kantai Collection character with Rei Ayanami.
 
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MissingGlitch said:
Jeez I'm starting to feel real bad for having western picks for fears I'll be lumped in with the people you all are making fun of.
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I don't judge people because of which characters they support.

I just don't get this whole "haha, I like manly Western characters, not those girly weeb characters you girly weebs support, look how superior I am!" mindset.
 
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Not sure why that comment spurred so many people on. People bashing on other picks that doesn't coincide with theirs is nothing new. More rare on here than on reddit or gamefaqs but still nothing new.
 
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Ain't nothing wrong with wanting western characters, I want a ton.


It's when you push off anything that isn't as "Anime ****" that we gonna have a bad time.
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To be honest I wanted to say something yet I wouldn't because it'll be political. Change of topic.

Apparently one of my fam from the KOS-MOS thread claims that everything the picture info provided could be fabricated. Damn, wish we had online lie detectors.

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I think I understand where the guy who doesn´t like KOS-MOS comes from. It´s not necesarily that it´s an anime character( we know she isn´t) but that her artstyle is, too busy or boring. It´s cool that it´s a female character but Kos-Mos doesn´t seem like she has a very interesting personality at first glance. She looks like a million other blue haired characters that are born sexy. Like if you got a Kantai Collection character with Rei Ayanami.
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She is a Rei Ayanami expy after all.
 
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Just woke up.
. . .What's been going on here for the past eight hours? Something about KOS-MOS and new leaks or dead leaks?
 
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Wrathful_Scythe said:
Not sure why that comment spurred so many people on. People bashing on other picks that doesn't coincide with theirs is nothing new. More rare on here than on reddit or gamefaqs but still nothing new.
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That’s not why anyone is triggered.
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Just woke up.
. . .What's been going on here for the past eight hours? Something about KOS-MOS and new leaks or dead leaks?
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Vergeben’s source didn’t know Kosmos was a Namco character.
 
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Shroob said:
Well the Reimu leak is apparently dead.


But that's one hell of an assumption to assume that Reimu has zero demand on the other side of the pond.


I haven't seen any conventions dedicated solely to Shovel Knight or Undertale, unlike Reitaisai in Japan for Touhou, that have gone on for over a decade, twice a year.
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i don't think cons are a good way to measure a characters worthiness but sure go off. the reason why i find it ludicrous that reimu is being taken this seriously is that those three that i mentioned had just the right amount of popularity and demand to get in the game. both sans and shantae had major support in the west and in japan (haven't bothered to check SK) so it would appeal to people on both sides of the ocean. the fact that sakurai relegated them to non-playable statues just doesn't give me any confidence in touhou making it in, regardless of how many cons it has. and honestly seeing AAA franchises like RE getting sent to the spirit realm makes it even more ridiculous to expect reimu in. if a multi-million dollar franchise like RE can't get a playable character what chance does touhou really stand? japan bias can only get you so far and we don't know if sakurai even thinks that an indie rep is essential.
 
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osby said:
I don't judge people because of which characters they support.

I just don't get this whole "haha, I like manly Western characters, not those girly weeb characters you girly weebs support, look how superior I am!" mindset.
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I feel like I need to apologize to you also. I was pretty bad about it awhile awhile back and feel terrible about it. I remember having run ins with you over it. I think a lot of it was during the lead up to Hero when I was deep in the Geno bubble.
 
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Polan said:
i don't think cons are a good way to measure a characters worthiness but sure go off. the reason why i find it ludicrous that reimu is being taken this seriously is that those three that i mentioned had just the right amount of popularity and demand to get in the game. both sans and shantae had major support in the west and in japan (haven't bothered to check SK) so it would appeal to people on both sides of the ocean. the fact that sakurai relegated them to non-playable statues just doesn't give me any confidence in touhou making it in, regardless of how many cons it has. and honestly seeing AAA franchises like RE getting sent to the spirit realm makes it even more ridiculous to expect reimu in. if a multi-million dollar franchise like RE can't get a playable character what chance does touhou really stand? japan bias can only get you so far and we don't know if sakurai even thinks that an indie rep is essential.
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But it works both ways.

AAA franchise like Resident Evil gets spirit treatment, but King of Fighters becomes playable.


At the end of the day, we're not Sakurai, we have 0 idea what the man's gonna do and can just shill our favs and hope that we end up being correct in guessing what he'll do.
 
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Never played any of the Xeno games but honestly I would love KOS-MOS. I have no idea what she’d play like but she has a great design and Sakurai could make a rock have a fun moveset so I have no doubt her kit would be fun and interesting. She’d be a welcome addition in my book
 
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MissingGlitch said:
I feel like I need to apologize to you also. I was pretty bad about it awhile back and feel terrible about it. I remember having run ins with you over it. I think a lot of it was during the lead up to Hero when I was deep in the Geno bubble.
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Apology accepted. It's all water under the bridge now.

It's not like I wasn't being a little **** to everyone when I first joined here.
 
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Anyways, this is probably the last time I visit this thread. With only 3 more days left, there's no point for me to get involved in fights. I've got plenty of other things to do beside speculation - play games in my backlog, read comics, manga or books, go for a walk, jot down ideas for creative writing pieces... Just remember that there's more to life than just Smash Bros speculation.

And with three wishes of KOS-MOS, Phoenix Wright and Akira Howard joining the fight in the future I begin my hiatus until the dust settles. "Farewell!"
 
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Shroob said:
Okay today was even crazier than Verg backpeddling on KOS-MOS?


Wtf
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Fatman got kicked out of Sabi's server and is claiming Sabi's mean and **** and thus should be cancelled on twitter despite everyone knowing cancel culture doesn't actually exist and there's a pretty high chance Fatman's just pissed because he can't use his "trust me guys i'm in a discord server so my speculation is more worthwhile, Geno Win" excuse anymore
 
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Sounds like things are pretty exciting. Shame about Phoenix but there's always post pass. The KOS-MOS stuff is interesting too. There's also the dark horse picks of double dipping to get us 2B, Kiryu, or Master Chief. Those are still on the table I believe. Pretty exciting stuff.
 
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Polan said:
i don't think cons are a good way to measure a characters worthiness but sure go off. the reason why i find it ludicrous that reimu is being taken this seriously is that those three that i mentioned had just the right amount of popularity and demand to get in the game. both sans and shantae had major support in the west and in japan (haven't bothered to check SK) so it would appeal to people on both sides of the ocean. the fact that sakurai relegated them to non-playable statues just doesn't give me any confidence in touhou making it in, regardless of how many cons it has. and honestly seeing AAA franchises like RE getting sent to the spirit realm makes it even more ridiculous to expect reimu in. if a multi-million dollar franchise like RE can't get a playable character what chance does touhou really stand? japan bias can only get you so far and we don't know if sakurai even thinks that an indie rep is essential.
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Way to much focus on popularity. Not sure why people still look at general popularity, sales numbers and representation. Sakurai adds characters based on his own notion of "fun" and if he likes said character. Sure, there are other factors as well but popularity isn't one of them.

If Sakurai doesn't want Reimu than thats that but the same is true for everyone else.
 
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Flyboy said:
Sounds like things are pretty exciting. Shame about Phoenix but there's always post pass. The KOS-MOS stuff is interesting too. There's also the dark horse picks of double dipping to get us 2B, Kiryu, or Master Chief. Those are still on the table I believe. Pretty exciting stuff.
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I doubt those fighters. Namco is low on reps despite achieving Ultimate and Sakurai seems legitimately hurt over the Rex thing.
 
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Can I finally get a character I wanted? :O
I haven't even visited back the Geno thread yet and y'all are saying Fat is trying to cancel Sabi lmao not sure if I want to go there yet given what's happening with KOS-MOS right now
 
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Cutie Gwen said:
Fatman got kicked out of Sabi's server and is claiming Sabi's mean and **** and thus should be cancelled on twitter despite everyone knowing cancel culture doesn't actually exist and there's a pretty high chance Fatman's just pissed because he can't use his "trust me guys i'm in a discord server so my speculation is more worthwhile, Geno Win" excuse anymore
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I hate this week

So much
 
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I doubt those fighters. Namco is low on reps despite achieving Ultimate and Sakurai seems legitimately hurt over the Rex thing.
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The closest thing he'd do is put a Blade in the roster...at least that's his memento towards the Xeno2 fam. If their Driver can't make it in, then they will instead get the rarest Blade in the game. Heartwarming.

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Wait did Verge's source think KOS-MOS was a Nintendo character?
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Verge's source doesn't even ****ing know if KOS-MOS is a thing in speculation XD
 
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Cutie Gwen said:
Fatman got kicked out of Sabi's server and is claiming Sabi's mean and **** and thus should be cancelled on twitter despite everyone knowing cancel culture doesn't actually exist and there's a pretty high chance Fatman's just pissed because he can't use his "trust me guys i'm in a discord server so my speculation is more worthwhile, Geno Win" excuse anymore
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Okay as someone who isn't really active on Smash Boards all to often, why does the Geno thread seem to treat Fatman in such high regard? Does he claim to have an inside source that tells him Geno is coming?
 
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Polan said:
i don't think cons are a good way to measure a characters worthiness but sure go off. the reason why i find it ludicrous that reimu is being taken this seriously is that those three that i mentioned had just the right amount of popularity and demand to get in the game. both sans and shantae had major support in the west and in japan (haven't bothered to check SK) so it would appeal to people on both sides of the ocean. the fact that sakurai relegated them to non-playable statues just doesn't give me any confidence in touhou making it in, regardless of how many cons it has. and honestly seeing AAA franchises like RE getting sent to the spirit realm makes it even more ridiculous to expect reimu in. if a multi-million dollar franchise like RE can't get a playable character what chance does touhou really stand? japan bias can only get you so far and we don't know if sakurai even thinks that an indie rep is essential.
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The only character in this entire pass that had "the right amount of demand and popularity" is Banjo.
 
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Hope things are a bit calmer this week, will keep low profile here until Thursday. Things looking surprising for KOS-MOS but at the same time, feel similar to how I felt to PW being likely. Just a bit strange due to being more likely due to all the debunks going around.

If she ends up happening, awesome, she is one of the coolest characters from Monolith, I enjoyed playing Xenosaga and she would be right now in my top 10 of most liked. Hope things go well for her.
 
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Just sayin'


Verg hard-back peddling on KOS-MOS would probably explain why Sabi's head Namco characters that aren't in, but not "NO NAMCO" entirely....



Can't believe I just talked about Sabi in a positive light, I feel dirty.
 
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