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Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

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BlackInk

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I guess my mindset at the moment, is that post fighter pass is the first opportunity Sakurai really has to address the demand for characters like Waluigi, Geno, Isaac, Dixie etc. So if he doesn't start with one of those characters right out of the gate then it starts looking less likely that that's even his intention to begin with.

This is assuming Sakurai didn't have full control over the fighter pass since Nintendo presumably provided him with a list of possibilities. (also assuming that characters on the fighter pass were decided on before the release of Smash Bros Ultimate)
The dlc characters were decided in November, 2018.
 

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Ok, we're getting to the point where we're insulting each other for believing or not believing in certain leaks.

Gonna be a long wait for Thursday.
 
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Ok, we're getting to the point where we're insulting each other for believing or not believing in certain leaks.

Gonna be a long wait for Thursday.
You know what I want right now with all of this going on?

A huge pizza, but one of those that has cheese inside the crust.

I could as well kill the time until Thursday by looking for one of those at every pizzeria on my island. Because they seem quite rare to find over here.
 

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I guess my mindset at the moment, is that post fighter pass is the first opportunity Sakurai really has to address the demand for characters like Waluigi, Geno, Isaac, Dixie etc. So if he doesn't start with one of those characters right out of the gate then it starts looking less likely that that's even his intention to begin with.

This is assuming Sakurai didn't have full control over the fighter pass since Nintendo presumably provided him with a list of possibilities. (also assuming that characters on the fighter pass were decided on before the release of Smash Bros Ultimate)
Yeah, I get that, but we still got :ultbanjokazooie: when everyone thought we'd have no fan favorites in the Pass. So I suppose even if the first few characters aren't promotions, Sakurai could still sneak one in. I can't tell you whether it's likely or not (I don't think anyone can answer that), but the possibility is there.
 

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Remember tho, there are now THREE private videos on the Smash Bros. playlist on YouTube. T H R E E .

What if...

TRIPLE REVEAL????
 
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Remember tho, there are now THREE private videos on the Smash Bros. playlist on YouTube. T H R E E .

What if...

TRIPLE REVEAL????
Everyone who took a side on this whole debate would potentially lose.

The temptation is strong with that possibility.
 

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Honestly, it's not that I think Verge is full of it, I'm just honestly done with the "Guess Who" game.

At this point, I'm betting on Phoenix not even because of leaks, but because I honestly just really, really want him. At the end of the day, none of us know who it's gonna be and are guessing anyways, lol.
 
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What you people need to do is honestly not take a side on all of this, and just wait for the Game Awards to come and solve everything.

I basically did that with Grinch but then didn’t do it with Google Theory. Which one of the two do I remember worse? Google Theory.

This whole debacle would likely not happen or at least be taken as such a horror if we just left the people from both fronts comment whatever they think and we just went with an open mind to the Game Awards.
 

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Also, who gives a dang about what leaks people believe?

No, seriously, who cares? Let people think what they wanna think. If you wanna reasonably debate it, sure, go on ahead: But pointing and laughing doesn't make much for an argument.
 

Wunderwaft

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Honestly, it's not that I think Verge is full of it, I'm just honestly done with the "Guess Who" game.

At this point, I'm betting on Phoenix not even because of leaks, but because I honestly just really, really want him. At the end of the day, none of us know who it's gonna be and are guessing anyways, lol.
Here's the thing about the guessing game, it's fine if you want to do it a month or so before a reveal. But 5 or so days close to a reveal? At that point it's hard to care about it. I dunno what Verge and Sabi think they're achieving but unless they drop a name none of what they say will really matter, most people will just choose to wait for the game awards instead of giving them more attention.
 

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Smash Ultimate has a wonderful roster. I know we're all tense waiting for news, so let's try to be polite to each other. Although the last hours had been tough, it has been a fun ride, so let's talk about characters we want to be included. For me, there's only 5 characters left to be in, although i think some of them will never happen:

1. Gordon Freeman (Valve)
2. Scorpion (Netherealm Studios)
3. Leon S. Kennedy (Capcom)
4. Lara Croft (Square Enix)
5. Rash (Microsoft)

If this ever happens, this would be it it, i'd never ask for anything else again. What characters you want included so it can become the perfect Smash game?
 

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I think Travis would be the coolest option out of the currently prominently discussed characters. I can’t remember if Vergeben disconfirmed him or not, but who cares at this point.
Remember tho, there are now THREE private videos on the Smash Bros. playlist on YouTube. T H R E E .

What if...

TRIPLE REVEAL????
Dodrio would be a pretty odd choice for a new Pokémon character but I’d be down for it.
 

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When did Smash Speculation turn into a Ace Attorney case?

Dang you Edgeworth/Vergeben and your updated autopsy report/updated deconfirm report...
 

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I think Travis would be the coolest option out of the currently prominently discussed characters. I can’t remember if Vergeben disconfirmed him or not, but who cares at this point.

Dodrio would be a pretty odd choice for a new Pokémon character but I’d be down for it.
I see what you did there...

ps it’s OBVIOUSLY Dugtrio

When did Smash Speculation turn into a Ace Attorney case?

Dang you Edgeworth/Vergeben and your updated autopsy report/updated deconfirm report...
It’s more a Danganronpa Trial tbh

Which, if KOS-MOS or someone else Verge shot down is revealed...

Now then, I’ve prepared a VERY special punishment for the Ultimate Leaker, Vergeben! Let’s give it everything we’ve got! Iiiiiiiiit’s PUNISHMENT TIIIIIIIIME!
 
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How can it be Cooking Mama when it's clearly Gooigi?
But Gooigi would just be an Inkling echo.

Don't we have enough fighters who take water damage? Enough with Sakurai's hydrophobia bias.
 

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First time?
Check the join date.

Grinch leak, ERSB Leak and heck I remeber the 35 character roster for Brawl's reveal.

It never gets any prettier.
 

Lighteni

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Check the join date.

Grinch leak, ERSB Leak and heck I remeber the 35 character roster for Brawl's reveal.

It never gets any prettier.
Yes, that is indeed the joke I was making.

Unfortunately, it is sort of inevitable for stuff like this to happen as you pretty much said. Nothing you can really do to change it with how emotionally invested some people will always get.
 
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Hexodus

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So, the two big theories are "the deconfirms are real" and "the deconfirms are leakbait."

Honestly, though, I wouldn't be surprised if the big name public leakers' sources were simultaneously
  1. not lying
  2. a distraction from who #5 actually is
Like, because it's really funny how deconfirming a bunch of characters, no matter how many, genuinely does not help smash speculators narrow down who #5 is. It causes panic and confusion and people doubting the leakers. and that's true even if every single deconfirm is real. Even if literally everything both leakers said pans out, the damage will have been done for them.

Is that the likeliest outcome? No, not really. Is that the funniest outcome? I think so. I think that'd be friggin' hilarious.
 
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FP5 is Brian Irons from RE2 you heard it here first folks, trust me I've been in Sabi's server, everyone will be angry. Literally everyone
His final smash is taking you back to your room because you've been a bad kid.
 
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Yes, that is indeed the joke I was making.

Unfortunately, it is sort of inevitable for stuff like this to happen as you pretty much said. Nothing you can really do to change it with how emotionally invested some people will always get.
Best we can do is try and stop things getting too toxic.

Remember that everyone has different criteria for believing in leaks and until the reveal happens, everyone is just as correct.
 

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Mfw people stray from the Goddess' light.


That being said, I still need to play another route that isn't Blue Lions. Damn shame the game is long as hell.
Crimson flower was my first route... then i went for golden deer which i'm just finishing now since i went on a full recruit and support farm (it has taken a ton of time DX). While certainly i love Claude and is by far the saner person in all fodlan, Golden eer route made me want edelgard even more... I also loved her in golden deer... the last cinematic murdered me.

on teh other hand, in that rote Dimitri was completely nonconsequential and even Dedue was more relevant DX....
 
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