Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[KillerCage]

So much to respond to.

First that’s my twitter account you just found so congrats
And second verge said no namco for 5 so it’s obviously fake

I apologize for everyone who harassed you.
You don't deserve that kind of treatment.

I've now finished the second case in Phoenix Wright, and this game is INSANE. Never before have I played a game that gave me this much suspense, laughter and satisfaction all in one package. My mouth was even hurting for a while because how much this game makes me smile!

I'm pleased to say that Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney may end up being my favorite game of all time. It's that good.

You are going to love Case 4. It has the best witness EVER!

Was Ace Attorney disconfirmed.

As far as I can tell, no but thanks for asking!

Wait, Verge's saying a Soul Calibur rep?

The Geno thread's "theories" made their way into this thread.
There is no Namco-Bandai rep, therefore there is no Soul Calibur rep.

 

[Lamperouge]

Daily reminder that Verge and Sabi haven't deconfirmed Gooigi.

Dread it.

Run from it.

Destiny arrives all the same.

 

[GKMLTTSB]

Captain N deserves a Mii Gunner costume.

Captain N deserves a revival, but probably wouldn't ever get anything but a Mii Fighter costume. :-(
He could be Nintendo's Sora if they just let it happen.

"Ah, Call of Duty Man. How is my favourite customer? I'm afraid that your new weapons have gotten stuck in this box. I may be persuaded to open it for ah, a small fee."

I couldn't help but laugh if after all the disussions, all the possibilities, etc.
Call of Duty Shooteyman ends up as DLC5.

With a reveal for season 2 where Battlefield Shooteyman is the lead-off.

 

[Deleted member]

read this in edelgard's voice and it really enhanced the experience

We need Tara Platt to say "ok boomer" in her Edelgard voice

 

[Deleted member]

We need Tara Platt to say "ok boomer" in her Edelgard voice

rhea: h-

 

[PhantomShab]

You people who religiously follow everything Vergeben says, you Vergeins I guess you could say, need to understand that some people might still be talking about a Namco rep because they don't take Vergeben's word as undeniable fact.

 

[Deleted member]

you Vergeins I guess you could say

woah dude epic roast, u really showed them!! what's your patreon

 

[RetrogamerMax]

You people who religiously follow everything Vergeben says, you Vergeins I guess you could say, need to understand that some people might still be talking about a Namco rep because they don't take Vergeben's word as undeniable fact.

Every since he got stuff about the February Direct wrong like saying Erdrick in Smash was going to be revealed in that Direct as well as Star Fox GP, I haven't really fully trusted the guy since.

 

[Fenriraga]

You people who religiously follow everything Vergeben says, you Vergeins I guess you could say, need to understand that some people might still be talking about a Namco rep because they don't take Vergeben's word as undeniable fact.

You're always a joy, aren't you?

I never said it was. I just meant to ask if something else had come up to contradict it.

 

[Idon]

woah dude epic roast, u really showed them!! what's your patreon

No Patreon, but have you heard of this new game called Raid: Shadow Legends...

 

[Deleted member]

guys crazy theory but what if verge is wrong about everything? what if verge was just super lucky throughout the whole speculation cycle? what if all the leakers are wrong and namco can still win? what if g. geno win??? guys what if ge

 

[nessdeltarune00]

Phoenix wright ,nightmare heihachi, kos-mos which one will prevail

(Most likely for it anyway)

You know Verge shot down the last three characters, right?

And coming from a Phoenix Wright supporter, he still has some competition that hasn’t been deconfirmed. No offense, but this mentality of expecting the same circle of characters leads this community to get blindsided over and over again (Again, I REALLY want Wright, just saying that there are still some candidates left)

 

[PhantomShab]

Every since he got stuff about the February Direct wrong like saying Erdrick in Smash was going to be revealed in that Direct as well as Star Fox GP, I haven't really fully trusted the guy since.

I'm still waiting to play as Minecraft Content. Maybe someday.

 

[StormC]

You guys need to make better posts for me to read while I'm at work and not doing the work I'm supposed to be doing.

 

[Deleted member]

You people who religiously follow everything Vergeben says, you Vergeins I guess you could say, need to understand that some people might still be talking about a Namco rep because they don't take Vergeben's word as undeniable fact.

You act as if there's a Church of Vergeben lol

Well, there is now, because I'm starting one. I'll write up the 10 Commandments of the Church of Vergeben soon but if you wanna sign up already, feel free to do so

 

[Mamboo07]

Horizon Zero Dawn coming to PC was mentioned in this leak, and now it's being corroborated by some gaming news outlets. This leak also says KOS-MOS is fighter five contradicting what Vergeben has said. The Remind detail is interesting, but it never had a date beyond "This Winter" so claiming a delay into January 2020 is a bit strange when that was the expected release window to begin with.

What do you all think?

#TheGameAwards
First fake game awards 4chan leak of the day. pic.twitter.com/1uHFI6felU

— Connorb0t (@itbeconnorb0t) November 21, 2019

I don't trust that pesky Vergeben.
Those dumb leaks have ruined the hype for Smash last year and this.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

You're always a joy, aren't you?

I never said it was. I just meant to ask if something else had come up to contradict it.

Here is why some people think Nightmare could still be FP5: Fatmanonice said Heihachi and Lloyd were guests in Soul Calibur at certain points so it would make a lot of sense if their Mii costumes came back with him. He also said Soul Calibur is the 2nd biggest crossover franchise in gaming only next to Smash.

 

[Ivander]

So many speculations. And yet still 8 days until the VGAs. Why does it have to feel so far away?

And speaking of Capcom characters, getting addicted to Teppen. Send help plz.

 

[Deleted member]

You act as if there's a Church of Vergeben lol

Well, there is now, because I'm starting one. I'll write up the 10 Commandments of the Church of Vergeben soon but if you wanna sign up already, feel free to do so

dare not kill, harm, lie, or deconfirm characters for a children's party game that i really really really want, unless such acts are committed by the will of The Vergeben

 

[Deleted member]

Good morning everyone.

Nothing much has happened? Well, gotta go back into hiding.

 

[nessdeltarune00]

Every since he got stuff about the February Direct wrong like saying Erdrick in Smash was going to be revealed in that Direct as well as Star Fox GP, I haven't really fully trusted the guy since.

Pretty sure it was Xenother that said Erdrick was in the February Direct.

 

[SNEKeater]

I mean it would make Nintendo a lot of money. Not to say he said it was going to be all highly fan requested characters, but he said that E3 and beyond would be almost nothing but 3rd party characters.

Nintendo will make money no matter the characters. While for sure we will get some fan favorites, Nintendo knows that hardcore Smash followers like us will buy the DLC no matter who they include. That being said I find more logical for them trying to appeal other people who maybe doesn't play Smash or doesn't have a Switch.

For the record, I want characters like Dixie or Isaac, but these characters won't bring new fans, to put it in some way, because the supporters of these characters already own the game. Bringing other franchises that aren't much overlapped with the Smash/Nintendo public surely will bring attract more people.

I think a few first party characters could happen but if I have to bet between "100% third party" or "100% first party" for post-pass DLC, I for sure will pick the first option.

You people who religiously follow everything Vergeben says, you Vergeins I guess you could say, need to understand that some people might still be talking about a Namco rep because they don't take Vergeben's word as undeniable fact.

Yep that's it, I secretly love Vergeben.

 

[Fenriraga]

You act as if there's a Church of Vergeben lol

Well, there is now, because I'm starting one. I'll write up the 10 Commandments of the Church of Vergeben soon but if you wanna sign up already, feel free to do so

Can I join just to spite them?

Horizon Zero Dawn coming to PC was mentioned in this leak, and now it's being corroborated by some gaming news outlets. This leak also says KOS-MOS is fighter five contradicting what Vergeben has said. The Remind detail is interesting, but it never had a date beyond "This Winter" so claiming a delay into January 2020 is a bit strange when that was the expected release window to begin with.

What do you all think?

#TheGameAwards
First fake game awards 4chan leak of the day. pic.twitter.com/1uHFI6felU

— Connorb0t (@itbeconnorb0t) November 21, 2019

>KH3 Re:Mind "delayed" to January

...They've said winter since the first trailer, that's not even a delay, lol

 

[Night Gale]

Vergeins I guess you could say.

Idc if you disagree with the message. He saw a pun opportunity and he f***ing took it.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I'm still waiting to play as Minecraft Content. Maybe someday.

Pretty sure it was Xenother that said Erdrick was in the February Direct.

Was it? You have the source?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

You act as if there's a Church of Vergeben lol

Well, there is now, because I'm starting one. I'll write up the 10 Commandments of the Church of Vergeben soon but if you wanna sign up already, feel free to do so

A church? Heh, I already made a cult and sacrificed 5 goats for Him to confirm Sol, 4 billionares for Shanoa and 7 orphanages for Miriam

 

[Deleted member]

Idc if you disagree with the message. He saw a pun opportunity and he f***ing took it.

Problem is it reads as Ver-Gay-Ins to me sense I've always thought Vergeben's name was German. Still a burn I guess?

 

[Deleted member]

The Ten Commandments of the Church of Vergeben:

1. Do not question thy Lord's word, for his word is law
2. Thou shalt never believe other leakers unless approved by me
3. Thou shalt not leak any screenshots of my messages
4. Thou shalt not lie about what thy Lord has said
5. Remember #MonadoMonday, to keep it holy
6. Honour thy Incineroar and thy Ken
7. Thou shalt not offend thy neighbor for the characters they support
8. Thou may offend thy neighbor if their character is ****ing stupid
9. Thou shalt not covet other fighting games
10. Thou shalt salt the earth when thy character is disconfirmed

 

[SNEKeater]

Of course there's a chance that Verge or Sabi are wrong and some of the characters or companies they have deconfirmed is actually FP5. But if we look at the track record of Verge, that doesn't sound like the safe bet. I'm saying this while some of my favorites are deconfirmed by them, so I'm not biased or anything.

 

[PhantomShab]

You act as if there's a Church of Vergeben lol

Well, there is now, because I'm starting one. I'll write up the 10 Commandments of the Church of Vergeben soon but if you wanna sign up already, feel free to do so

Only if I get to personally collect all the donations sure.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Thou shalt not covet other fighting games

Wait Smash is a fighting game? Seriously reconsidering my religion now

 

[Deleted member]

Can I join just to spite them?


>KH3 Re:Mind "delayed" to January

...They've said winter since the first trailer, that's not even a delay, lol

You're technically the first one to join besides me so I'm making you a Bishop

Only if I get to personally collect all the donations sure.

A virgin has offered their body to thy Lord! Let us celebrate, for He will feast on their body and soul tonight!

 

[timbo8]

Horizon Zero Dawn coming to PC was mentioned in this leak, and now it's being corroborated by some gaming news outlets. This leak also says KOS-MOS is fighter five contradicting what Vergeben has said. The Remind detail is interesting, but it never had a date beyond "This Winter" so claiming a delay into January 2020 is a bit strange when that was the expected release window to begin with.

What do you all think?

#TheGameAwards
First fake game awards 4chan leak of the day. pic.twitter.com/1uHFI6felU

— Connorb0t (@itbeconnorb0t) November 21, 2019

well the remind news is true but i dont it will reveal tga unless they win a award there

 

[RetrogamerMax]

The Ten Commandments of the Church of Vergeben:

1. Do not question thy Lord's word, for his word is law
2. Thou shalt never believe other leakers unless approved by me
3. Thou shalt not leak any screenshots of my messages
4. Thou shalt not lie about what thy Lord has said
5. Remember #MonadoMonday, to keep it holy
6. Honour thy Incineroar and thy Ken
7. Thou shalt not offend thy neighbor for the characters they support
8. Thou may offend thy neighbor if their character is ****ing stupid
9. Thou shalt not covet other fighting games
10. Thou shalt salt the earth when thy character is disconfirmed

I have to say, this is pretty hilarious lol! I trust Sabi more than Verge though.

 

[Night Gale]

7 orphanages for Miriam

If that's what it takes.

 

[Calamitas]

Goddamnit why did you have to remind me of what could have been?

Wait, I'm confused. In what sense do you mean that? 'Cause if it's in the sense that TLS should've gotten more than just two trophies/spirits, then oh god yes.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

You act as if there's a Church of Vergeben lol

Well, there is now, because I'm starting one. I'll write up the 10 Commandments of the Church of Vergeben soon but if you wanna sign up already, feel free to do so

The Ten Commandments of the Church of Vergeben:

1. Do not question thy Lord's word, for his word is law
2. Thou shalt never believe other leakers unless approved by me
3. Thou shalt not leak any screenshots of my messages
4. Thou shalt not lie about what thy Lord has said
5. Remember #MonadoMonday, to keep it holy
6. Honour thy Incineroar and thy Ken
7. Thou shalt not offend thy neighbor for the characters they support
8. Thou may offend thy neighbor if their character is ****ing stupid
9. Thou shalt not covet other fighting games
10. Thou shalt salt the earth when thy character is disconfirmed

Not good enough. We can make it better. I present:

The Ten Commandments of the Church of Vergeben​

1. He is the Lord thy Vergeben, thou shalt not have any strange gods before Him, including the heretics Sabi and Fatman
2. Thou shalt regard the Word of our Lord Vergeben and know it to be true
3. Remember to keep holy the Leak day
4. Honor thy insider sources and leakers
5. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy Vergeben in vain
6. Thou shalt not quote out of context or inspect element images
7. Thou shalt not steal leaks for Youtube content
8. Thou shalt not bear false witness about leaks against thy neighbor speculators
9. Thou shalt not covet thy leaker's information
10. Thou shalt not covet thy leaker's sources

Coming soon: Sabi's 95 Theses

 

[Seanapotamus]

I can't believe I never thought of this as a recovery possibility for Phoenix other than a stepladder. Phoenix has so much potential for a wacky and creative moveset, it's frankly unfair to everyone else.

Spoiler: Spoiler for final case in PW:AA

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I'm playing through the first game and just as I thought, Phoenix would have a really interesting moveset overall.

I feel their use of fanservice picks is kinda silly, given that we have gotten pretty much fanservice picks since the Inklings all the way to Terry. Fighter 5 is going to be fanservice and beyond are going to be fanservice as well, every character has their fans.

Plus for what reason would Verge lie in regards of Bamco? He doesn't have anything to lose.

The entire game is fanservice in general, from everyone coming back to already-present franchises getting more content (Mega Man and Street Fighter got a ton of new content) to the new series in Smash getting love. Examples of fanservice regarding new characters include Castlevania getting a plethora of content, tons of Persona 5 references regarding Joker, getting four Dragon Quest heroes, and Terry's entire pack in general. Whoever is next and beyond will have tons of fanservice no matter what. Not everything has to revolve around the long-requested picks, and in the end Smash is bringing in new audiences with new fighters. Verge is credible when it comes to Smash, yet there are people who don't believe in his statement that Bandai-Namco is out of the running as Fighter #5.

 

[Flyboy]

Here is why some people think Nightmare could still be FP5: Fatmanonice said Heihachi and Lloyd were guests in Soul Calibur at certain points so it would make a lot of sense if their Mii costumes came back with him. He also said Soul Calibur is the 2nd biggest crossover franchise in gaming only next to Smash.

Is this another one of those weird "Ryu Hayabusa is the last NES icon" claims that's going to be repeated for no reason? Soulcalibur has guest characters. Tekken also has guest characters. King of Fighters All Star has guest characters. I'd say that Granblue ****ing Fantasy has more actual crossovers if you count number of series' than Soulcalibur. And hell, even in fighters, King of Fighters itself is a bigger crossover than Soulcalibur. Or, y'know, the Capcom Versus series? Marvel vs. Capcom anyone? Cmon son.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Captain N deserves a revival, but probably wouldn't ever get anything but a Mii Fighter costume. :-(
He could be Nintendo's Sora if they just let it happen.



I couldn't help but laugh if after all the disussions, all the possibilities, etc.
Call of Duty Shooteyman ends up as DLC5.

With a reveal for season 2 where Battlefield Shooteyman is the lead-off.

Reminds me of this thing I saw a while back.