Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Deleted member]

How come people are suspecting Phoenix Wright for Smash but not Apollo Justice? He’s just as cool, if not cooler. Phoenix is more well known, but that doesn’t make him better. And if Nintendo was planning on adding an Ace Attorney character to Smash, they’d want to throw us off. Similar to how people expected Erdrick for Smash, but we got Hero instead. They want to give the players characters they’ll want, but obviously don’t want them guessing all of the characters before the first few are even revealed. But if Phoenix is added instead of Apollo (if they were to be added in the first place), I think an alternate outfit would be the least they could do for Apollo.

B-but... Erdrick is in the game...

 

[SmashSSL]

How come people are suspecting Phoenix Wright for Smash but not Apollo Justice? He’s just as cool, if not cooler. Phoenix is more well known, but that doesn’t make him better. And if Nintendo was planning on adding an Ace Attorney character to Smash, they’d want to throw us off. Similar to how people expected Erdrick for Smash, but we got Hero instead. They want to give the players characters they’ll want, but obviously don’t want them guessing all of the characters before the first few are even revealed. But if Phoenix is added instead of Apollo (if they were to be added in the first place), I think an alternate outfit would be the least they could do for Apollo.

As that guy who actually likes Apollo way more than Phoenix...
Phoenix is the main character.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Or Terry, where everything about his representation screams KOF but he's not KOF's protagonist.

Which I suppose is why he's considered to be a Fatal Fury character (even though that's mostly untrue).

 

[Flyboy]

How come people are suspecting Phoenix Wright for Smash but not Apollo Justice? He’s just as cool, if not cooler. Phoenix is more well known, but that doesn’t make him better. And if Nintendo was planning on adding an Ace Attorney character to Smash, they’d want to throw us off. Similar to how people expected Erdrick for Smash, but we got Hero instead. They want to give the players characters they’ll want, but obviously don’t want them guessing all of the characters before the first few are even revealed. But if Phoenix is added instead of Apollo (if they were to be added in the first place), I think an alternate outfit would be the least they could do for Apollo.

personally I think instead of little mac they should've added bald bull

 

[Deleted member]

Apollo is an alt of Phoenix Wright.

Bam, we all win.

 

[SmashSSL]

Character: Wright
Alt: Apollo
Echo: Edgeworth

That is the good future

 

[DarthEnderX]

Iconic is a pointless qualifier, it varies from person to person.

I mean, not really. If nobody agrees on whether something is iconic or not, it's not really an icon.

The fact that it varies just means some people are wrong.

Your time is better spent debating a less subjective, potentially meaningless term.

No such thing. They're all ultimately pointless.

 

[Deleted member]

personally I think instead of little mac they should've added bald bull

Real talk doh.

Glass Joe echo fighter when?

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

How come people are suspecting Mario for Smash but not Luigi? He’s just as cool, if not cooler. Mario is more well known, but that doesn’t make him better. And if Nintendo was planning on adding an Super Mario character to Smash, they’d want to throw us off. Similar to how people expected Erdrick for Smash, but we got Hero instead. They want to give the players characters they’ll want, but obviously don’t want them guessing all of the characters before the first few are even revealed. But if Mario is added instead of Luigi (if they were to be added in the first place), I think an alternate outfit would be the least they could do for Luigi.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Real talk doh.

Glass Joe echo fighter when?

I don't think Little Mac, but worse would be all that fun. It'd just be Little Mac, but now his ground normals are also bad.

EDIT: Though his Final Smash being "Viva la France!" would be slightly entertaining as the only Final Smash that players can hit you out of.

 

[DarthEnderX]

And if Nintendo was planning on adding an Ace Attorney character to Smash, they’d want to throw us off.

They've never done that before. Why would they start now?

Real talk doh.

Glass Joe echo fighter when?

Its King Hippo's time!

 

[SneakyLink]

How come people are suspecting Otto Matic for Smash but not The Giant Brain? It’s just as cool, if not cooler. The Giant Brain is more well known, but that doesn’t make it better. And if Nintendo was planning on adding an Otto Matic character to Smash, they’d want to throw us off. Similar to how people expected Miis for Smash, but we got Mii Fighters instead. They want to give the players characters they’ll want, but obviously don’t want them guessing all of the characters before the first few are even revealed. But if Otto Matic is added instead of The Giant Brain (if they were to be added in the first place), I think an alternate outfit would be the least they could do for The Giant Brain.

Yeah this is gonna be a small in meme.

 

[SmashSSL]

How come people are suspecting Snake for play station all stars but not Raiden? He’s just as cool, if not cooler. Snake is more well known, but that doesn’t make him better. And if Sony was planning on adding a Metal Gear character to PSASBR, they’d want to throw us off. Similar to how people expected Erdrick for Smash, but we got Hero instead. They want to give the players characters they’ll want, but obviously don’t want them guessing all of the characters before the first few are even revealed. But if Snake is added instead of Raiden (if they were to be added in the first place), I think an alternate outfit would be the least they could do for Raiden.

... huh? Wait a minute, no!

 

[Deleted member]

How come people are suspecting Freddy for Smash but not Springtrap? He’s just as cool, if not cooler. Freddy is more well known, but that doesn’t make him better. And if Nintendo was planning on adding a FNAF character to Smash, they’d want to throw us off. Similar to how people expected Erdrick for Smash, but we got Hero instead. They want to give the players characters they’ll want, but obviously don’t want them guessing all of the characters before the first few are even revealed. But if Freddy is added instead of Springtrap (if they were to be added in the first place), I think an alternate outfit would be the least they could do for Springtrap.

 

[BlackInk]

What happened?

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

How come people are suspecting Otto Matic for Smash but not The Giant Brain? It’s just as cool, if not cooler. The Giant Brain is more well known, but that doesn’t make it better. And if Nintendo was planning on adding an Otto Matic character to Smash, they’d want to throw us off. Similar to how people expected Miis for Smash, but we got Mii Fighters instead. They want to give the players characters they’ll want, but obviously don’t want them guessing all of the characters before the first few are even revealed. But if Otto Matic is added instead of The Giant Brain (if they were to be added in the first place), I think an alternate outfit would be the least they could do for The Giant Brain.

Yeah this is gonna be a small in meme.

How come people are suspecting Snake for play station all stars but not Raiden? He’s just as cool, if not cooler. Snake is more well known, but that doesn’t make him better. And if Sony was planning on adding a Metal Gear character to Smash, they’d want to throw us off. Similar to how people expected Erdrick for Smash, but we got Hero instead. They want to give the players characters they’ll want, but obviously don’t want them guessing all of the characters before the first few are even revealed. But if Snake is added instead of Raiden (if they were to be added in the first place), I think an alternate outfit would be the least they could do for Raiden.

... huh? Wait a minute, no!

How come people are suspecting SneakyLink to start the copypasta but not SmashSSL? He’s just as fast, if not faster. SneakyLink is more well known, but that doesn’t make him better. And if Smashboards was planning on having a copypasta user, they’d want to throw us off. Similar to how people expected Erdrick for Smash, but we got Hero instead. They want to give the players characters they’ll want, but obviously don’t want them guessing all of the characters before the first few are even revealed. But if SneakyLink starts it instead of SmashSSL (if they were to start it in the first place), I think a would be the least they could do for SmashSSL.

 

[Deleted member]

What happened?

Just a sad day for me in general.

That besides, funny stuff is happening here I think.

 

[Hexodus]

How come people are suspecting Phoenix Wright for Smash but not Apollo Justice? He’s just as cool, if not cooler. Phoenix is more well known, but that doesn’t make him better. And if Nintendo was planning on adding an Ace Attorney character to Smash, they’d want to throw us off. Similar to how people expected Erdrick for Smash, but we got Hero instead. They want to give the players characters they’ll want, but obviously don’t want them guessing all of the characters before the first few are even revealed. But if Phoenix is added instead of Apollo (if they were to be added in the first place), I think an alternate outfit would be the least they could do for Apollo.

I love Apollo, I think he deserved to take over the reins as the protagonist post-AJ, but Capcom just... doesn't love him. After they booted Takumi out, the main series' new writers made Polly share protagonist duty with Phoenix and a third lawyer, and then they wrapped up his arc in a half-assed way just so they could leave him in a foreign country where he can't interfere with Phoenix Time (tm). Meanwhile Phoenix gets to star in crossovers and spinoffs.

The best Apollo fans can hope for is an echo fighter, I think. Though, frankly even a dumb lil' mii costume would make me feel kind of happy for him.

 

[King Sonnn DeDeDoo]

personally I think instead of little mac they should've added bald bull

I know it’s not needed per say, but I’d actually love another Punch-Out! character

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Its King Hippo's time!

You know, I couldn't really get behind this idea, but now I'm thinking "Little Mac, but he's also King K. Rool", and that actually sounds like fun.

 

[Flyboy]

The true Little Mac echo should be Doc Louis. You can't change my mind.

Character: Wright
Alt: Apollo
Echo: Edgeworth

That is the good future

Athena gets to be the second unique rep so she can judo throw fools.

 

[Night Gale]

Reminder that Resident Evil 3 Carlos's redesign looks like f***ing Miguel from Tekken.

 

[TheYungLink]

I love Apollo, I think he deserved to take over the reins as the protagonist post-AJ, but Capcom just... doesn't love him. After they booted Takumi out, the main series' new writers made Polly share protagonist duty with Phoenix and a third lawyer, and then they wrapped up his arc in a half-assed way just so they could leave him in a foreign country where he can't interfere with Phoenix Time (tm). Meanwhile Phoenix gets to star in crossovers and spinoffs.

The best Apollo fans can hope for is an echo fighter, I think. Though, frankly even a dumb lil' mii costume would make me feel kind of happy for him.

I wish Apollo could get in as an Echo Fighter for Phoenix since I liked his story, haphazardly put together as it was. Unfortunately, Apollo is competing with Miles Edgeworth for the Echo Fighter spot assuming there's only one, and everyone (especially me) loves Edgeworth.

 

[SneakyLink]

How come people are suspecting SneakyLink to start the copypasta but not SmashSSL? He’s just as fast, if not faster. SneakyLink is more well known, but that doesn’t make him better. And if Smashboards was planning on having a copypasta user, they’d want to throw us off. Similar to how people expected Erdrick for Smash, but we got Hero instead. They want to give the players characters they’ll want, but obviously don’t want them guessing all of the characters before the first few are even revealed. But if SneakyLink starts it instead of SmashSSL (if they were to start it in the first place), I think a would be the least they could do for SmashSSL.

...and that is why I'm SneakyLink. Ya never know where I post first... like the time I made the count bomb-bomb thread crazy.

But let's get back to Newcomer Speculation.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Reminder that Resident Evil 3 Carlos's redesign looks like f***ing Miguel from Tekken.

Spoiler: Image

Before I highlighted your text so I could read it I was expecting you to say Miguel should be in over Heihachi...How is this a Resident Evil character?

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I know this is fake, but what do you guys think about this Marina Liteyears picture leak?

 

[Idon]

Before I highlighted your text so I could read it I was expecting you to say Miguel should be in over Heihachi...How is this a Resident Evil character?

It isn't, that's Miguel.

Carlos is soldier man with Miguel's hairdo.

 

[SneakyLink]

I know this is fake, but what do you guys think about this Marina Liteyears picture leak?

First question: Who?

 

[Deleted member]

“According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way a bee should be able to fly. Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground. The bee, of course, flies anyways. Because bees don’t care about what humans think is impossible”

-The intro of the Smash reveal at the Game Awards-

 

[RetrogamerMax]

First question: Who?

Marina Liteyears from the obscure N64 game Mischief Makers. It's a underrated gem.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I know this is fake, but what do you guys think about this Marina Liteyears picture leak?

Another user mentioned this "leak" with a heartfelt paragraph to go with it. Everyone else was more interested in how cool Toon Link looks with that color palette.

 

[Flyboy]

I know this is fake, but what do you guys think about this Marina Liteyears picture leak?

I posted it earlier but it literally made me tear up considering I thought I was the only person on the planet who supported her and she's pretty much the most nostalgic want I have considering I wanted her since I first played the original Smash.

I'm hoping this gets covered by all the clickbait YouTubers just so people start supporting her and playing Mischief Makers.

 

[Deleted member]

I know this is fake, but what do you guys think about this Marina Liteyears picture leak?

The 3D render looks cool.

That’s all I can say.

 

[TheCJBrine]

It's Morgana. Morgana confirmed for FP5!

Jack Frost, your new hee-homeboy, joins the battle! He's ready to turn Jhoker and Morgana into ice sculptures on the battlefheeld for stealing his invitation last year!

I haven't played Persona or SMT but I like Jack Frost.

“According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way a bee should be able to fly. Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground. The bee, of course, flies anyways. Because bees don’t care about what humans think is impossible”

-The intro of the Smash reveal at the Game Awards-

I can't beelieve it.

It's him.

 

[Deleted member]

Jack Frost, your new hee-homeboy, joins the battle! He's ready to turn Jhoker and Morgana into ice sculptures on the battlefheeld for stealing his invitation last year!

I haven't played Persona or SMT but I like Jack Frost.



I can't beelieve it.

It's him.

Exactly.

 

[Deleted member]

I know this is fake, but what do you guys think about this Marina Liteyears picture leak?

That Toon Link alt is the biggest detractor to this leak. But I have to give credit to anyone who actually modded this; they did a damn good job into fooling anyone naive.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I posted it earlier but it literally made me tear up considering I thought I was the only person on the planet who supported her and she's pretty much the most nostalgic want I have considering I wanted her since I first played the original Smash.

I'm hoping this gets covered by all the clickbait YouTubers just so people start supporting her and playing Mischief Makers.

LaxChris and Block Content where you at?!

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

I know this is fake, but what do you guys think about this Marina Liteyears picture leak?

Lowkey I'd be hyped if Marina got in.

I know nothing about Mischief Makers. All I know is Marina shakes people but I'd be damn hyped for my boy Flyboy . She'd probably be a real fun and unique fighter too so I'd be down.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

It isn't, that's Miguel.

Carlos is soldier man with Miguel's hairdo.

That makes a lot more sense. I took one look at the picture and went "yup, that's Miguel", but the comment made me think it was supposed to be Carlos because I'm gullible or something.

 

[N3ON]

I mean, not really. If nobody agrees on whether something is iconic or not, it's not really an icon.

The fact that it varies just means some people are wrong.

No such thing. They're all ultimately pointless.

Yes, due to the fact that it varies, you are one of the people that is wrong.