Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[MooMew64]

On the topic off Sakura Wars, I have zero familiarity with the franchise, but I have seen it's character designs and they look super cool. I'd be okay with it.

 

[RawstyleEevee]

First of all don't take this post to serious, but if Nemesis ends up as FP5, because its the most iconic RE monster, Sakurai did a master troll with the RE spirit event xD

 

[AceAttorney9000]

First of all don't take this post to serious, but if Nemesis ends up as FP5, because its the most iconic RE monster, Sakurai did a master troll with the RE spirit event xD

Chris, Jill, Leon, and Wesker are all spirits because Nemesis hunted them down and sent them to the next dimension.

 

[KillerCage]

Okay who did or did not get the axe?

 

[RawstyleEevee]

Chris, Jill, Leon, and Wesker are all spirits because Nemesis hunted them down and sent them to the next dimension.

We will also get a true "All Staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaars" mode with his release xD

 

[Seanapotamus]

None of the Fighter's Pass characters are what I'd call "Huge western appeal characters" in the first place, so I'm kind of confused where the narrative that the pack is focusing on westerners started, lol. Especially with Terry and Hero being in.

Banjo is not exactly a superstar over here, either. He's popular with 90's kids who owned N64s and that seems to be about it, he isn't quite the giant gaming icon some make him out to be IMHO, and this is coming from someone who likes Banjo.

Banjo's popularity comes from the people who grew up playing his games in the late 90's, but is rather unknown to the younger generation. A lot of what helped Banjo get in is due to being highly requested, which Phil Spencer was already aware of by the time Microsoft negotiated with Nintendo. And yeah, I don't think the next fighter will be super mainstream, at least here in the west, but on the plus side Smash helps make franchises more popular.

Chris, Jill, Leon, and Wesker are all spirits because Nemesis hunted them down and sent them to the next dimension.

Not even Albert Wesker survived Nemesis.

Gonna repost this image I made since it's more relevant than ever now:

Is there a template for this?

 

[8-peacock-8]

Chris, Jill, Leon, and Wesker are all spirits because Nemesis hunted them down and sent them to the next dimension.

Nemesis turned into a Galeem laser.

 

[NintenZ]

I will admit that I disagree with NintenZ logic here (mostly because I thought we just universally agree there wouldn't be another SEGA / Square Enix rep awhile back ago, but alrighty)

But Sakura is faaaaaaar form a littearly who

We never really reached a census on anything, the character could literally be from anyone.

But yeah I think some people here really underestimate the impact Sakura Wars made, especially considering it inspired games like Persona and Mass Effect and is a huge phenomenon in Japan, getting things like a cafe and most importantly the long-running stage show that kept the series alive during it's hiatus.

People REALLY need to start thinking outside of the box here, it's getting so annoying how hive-minded the thread can be.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

First of all don't take this post to serious, but if Nemesis ends up as FP5, because its the most iconic RE monster, Sakurai did a master troll with the RE spirit event xD

b-b-but

Nemesis is not for Good Boys And Girls(TM), he's too grotesque

 

[RouffWestie]

Realistically, at some point during the VGAs, Geoff will surprise us by welcoming recently-reunited band My Chemical Romance to the stage for a live rendition of this song while his reveal trailer plays in the background.
Honestly I don't know what else you guys are expecting.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Okay who did or did not get the axe?

after Bandai Namco and Level 5, nobody yet

 

[Lamperouge]

b-b-but

Nemesis is not for Good Boys And Girls(TM), he's too grotesque

At least we don't have to worry about people wanting to look up him, though.

...I hope.

 

[Deleted member]

... end things on a high note...

People think this game after game after game. The Smash series has never ended things on a 'high note'. People were warned that before when we had credible info Ken (who we had already seen) and Incineroar were the last characters to be added, but they fell for that Grinch leak that no credible leaker at the time supported.

We could have a hype-inducing final character as the last spot in the pass, it's not impossible, but its not a 'must'. Don't fall into that pit trap.

 

[GillyGrime]

How do you guys react if we get AIAI as a playable character?

People talk a lot about Capcom reps but SEGA also have so many great potential choices. AIAI being a great example.

 

[Night Gale]

I can't promise not to sob like a nostalgic little b**** if Simple and Clean got into Super Smash.

 

[Lamperouge]

People talk a lot about Capcom reps but SEGA also have so many great potential choices. AIAI being a great example.

How can we hope to talk about SEGA characters when their own company forgets that half of them even exist?

 

[Seanapotamus]

People talk a lot about Capcom reps but SEGA also have so many great potential choices. AIAI being a great example.

People often overlook the amount of characters SEGA has that could be good choices. Besides Sakura, here are others:

• Kiryu
• Alex Kidd
• NiGHTS
• Opa Opa
• Burning Rangers
• Ulala (CERO has entered the chat)

 

[Deleted member]

• Opa Opa

Would this allow us to get Gangnam Style in Smash?

 

[GillyGrime]

How can we hope to talk about SEGA characters when their own company forgets that half of them even exist?

SEGA Allstars Racing had some nice fanservice but yee, a lot of juicy inactive IPs </3

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

People often overlook the amount of characters SEGA has that could be good choices. Besides Sakura, here are others:

• Kiryu
• Alex Kidd
• Opa Opa
• Burning Rangers
• Ulala (CERO has entered the chat)

and of course, you can't forget about the legend himself

 

[MooMew64]

How can we hope to talk about SEGA characters when their own company forgets that half of them even exist?

SEGA: Hey guys, Sonic's pretty cool right?

SEGA Fans: Yeah I guess, but what happened to Jet Set Radio?

SEGA: ...Is that a kind of Sonic?

 

[Seanapotamus]

Would this allow us to get Gangnam Style in Smash?

I'm just waiting for a Gangnam Style dance for a taunt at this point

and of course, you can't forget about the legend himself

He isn't in because he would be too OP to the point that the tier list would be meaningless. Dude even fought against Chuck Norris once.

SEGA: Hey guys, Sonic's pretty cool right?

SEGA Fans: Yeah I guess, but what happened to Jet Set Radio?

SEGA: ...Is that a kind of Sonic?

Ngl I would be completely down to have The Concept of Love as a song in Smash.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

DaybreakHorizon I keep thinking you're @Hinata because of the avatar.

How do you know I'm not?

 

[GillyGrime]

Vergeben spirit for DLC pls Sakurai x

 

[Lamperouge]

SEGA: Hey guys, Sonic's pretty cool right?

SEGA Fans: Yeah I guess, but what happened to Jet Set Radio?

SEGA: ...Is that a kind of Sonic?

SEGA: ...Oh! Jet Set the Hedgehog is what you want? We got you, fam:

 

[Deleted member]

How do you know I'm not?

I've seen you two in the same room together before. It's over.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm just waiting for a Gangnam Style dance for a taunt at this point

We'd have to bend the rules a bit, but this is an option.

 

[Kotor]

Nemesis as FP5?
.... Instead of Byleth or TH Lords, we get the King of Liberation himself. And everyone will hear God-Shattering Star in all its glory!

Spoiler

That's a joke, lads.

 

[Deleted member]

SEGA: ...Oh! Jet Set the Hedgehog is what you want? We got you, fam:

Why does Fursona 5 over there have flesh colored hands?

 

[Deleted member]

Why does Fursona 5 over there have flesh colored hands?

I think that's the 'gloveless' option. Either that or the monkey hands to appear human-like. It was the go-to option to make your character give real uncanny valley vibes.

 

[Gentlepanda]

People think this game after game after game. The Smash series has never ended things on a 'high note'. People were warned that before when we had credible info Ken (who we had already seen) and Incineroar were the last characters to be added, but they fell for that Grinch leak that no credible leaker at the time supported.

We could have a hype-inducing final character as the last spot in the pass, it's not impossible, but its not a 'must'. Don't fall into that pit trap.

besides which, it makes sense for the fighter's pass to be front loaded

you want people to buy it early when they don't know 4/5 of it besides joker, not after they know who's in it

 

[Lamperouge]

Why does Fursona 5 over there have flesh colored hands?

Because Sonic Forces was a mistake.

 

[Evil Trapezium]

Wait, Konami exists! James Sunderland for Fighter #5 please Nintendo!

 

[PrettyIvyPearls22]

We never really reached a census on anything, the character could literally be from anyone.

But yeah I think some people here really underestimate the impact Sakura Wars made, especially considering it inspired games like Persona and Mass Effect and is a huge phenomenon in Japan, getting things like a cafe and most importantly the long-running stage show that kept the series alive during it's hiatus.

People REALLY need to start thinking outside of the box here, it's getting so annoying how hive-minded the thread can be.

How can we hope to talk about SEGA characters when their own company forgets that half of them even exist?

As much as I love NintenZ logic for Sakura Wars and Reimu, but, let's be real here SEGA seems to forget they even have other characters that's not Sonic or Atlus adjacent for them half of the time to get someone else. Coming from a SEGA fan.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Wait, Konami exists! James Sunderland for Fighter #5 please Nintendo!

For his side special, he runs forward and if he grabs you during this, he smothers you with a pillow

 

[Flyboy]

Massive long-running Sega series featuring a character that had major fan demand in Japan and is getting pushed in the west after one of it's best-selling games?

It's Arle Nadja time. Get ready to pop some Puyos.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Companies neglecting their own characters means pretty much nothing when Sakurai and the Smash team are involved.

Reminder that prior to his Smash 4 confirmation, Mega Man was in a bit of a slump including a bunch of cancelled releases and Inafune leaving Capcom altogether

and then of course you got Banjo Kazooie, a franchise that was (and still might be) dormant for 10+ years, and let's just say it didn't really go out on a high note

 

[Wunderwaft]

People think this game after game after game. The Smash series has never ended things on a 'high note'. People were warned that before when we had credible info Ken (who we had already seen) and Incineroar were the last characters to be added, but they fell for that Grinch leak that no credible leaker at the time supported.

We could have a hype-inducing final character as the last spot in the pass, it's not impossible, but its not a 'must'. Don't fall into that pit trap.

I'm not saying it "must" end on a high note, but I'm saying it's certainly possible especially with how none of the DLC characters are exactly mainstream. Smash 4 DLC ended with Bayonetta, which I consider a high note to end the DLC with. At the end of the day they're selling something to us, if the character is not appealing to the majority of the player base then why put them there to begin with? Regardless of who FP5 is I'm sure it will be someone great, the rest of the fighters pass has been incredible and I don't see why that would change for the last character.

 

[Seanapotamus]

Companies neglecting their own characters mean pretty much nothing when Sakurai and the Smash team are involved.

Reminder that prior to his Smash 4 confirmation, Mega Man was in a bit of a slump including a bunch of cancelled releases and Inafune leaving Capcom altogether

and then of course you got Banjo Kazooie, a franchise that was (and still might be) dormant for 10+ years

Before Simon was revealed, Castlevania was regulated to pachinko machines. Metal Gear has fallen off a cliff after Kojima left and ended with Metal Gear Survive, and was also regulated to pachinko machines.

Smash is known to revive series, after all (see: Mega Man 11 and Kid Icarus: Uprising)

 

[I.D.]

Bruh, look at this dood

But yeah I think some people here really underestimate the impact Sakura Wars made, especially considering it inspired games like Persona and Mass Effect and is a huge phenomenon in Japan

Hohoho wait till you see the-

Spoiler: huge phenomenon in Japan

oh nononono

People REALLY need to start thinking outside of the box here, it's getting so annoying how hive-minded the thread can be.

Yeah we are the hive-mind, not the group of people with anime avatars who are trying to push the narrative that Banjo-Kazooie is basically just as niche as a series whose most sold title barely scratches 500k copies on the sega saturn.