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Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

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Flyboy

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For the record, Gwen is, just like me, and as far as I know, one of the people that has the Right Opinion™ about Xenoblade 2, and sees it as the bad game that it is.

Alm, Celica, Hector, Lyn, Eirika and Ephraim, the three house leaders, and Ike from what I've heard.
XC2 dislike squad represent babyyyy

torna is still pretty ok though

It's Xenoblade X that actually got robbed btw
 
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Calamitas

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Well I sure as hell am not going to get into an argument about right and wrong opinions. To each their own. At least our tastes seem to lign up more when it comes to Fire Emblem, so that's nice I guess.
I mean, the part about having The Right Opinion™ was a joke, hence the capitalization and the ™.
But I am very much serious about my dislike for that game, no matter which euphemism I use.
 

Ivander

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Alm, Celica, Hector, Lyn, Eirika and Ephraim, the three house leaders, and Ike from what I've heard.
I don't know. A human that gets a legendary weapon, is related to a well-known person and eventually fights an unnatural powerful entity sounds awfully generic. :troll:
 
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My BEAUTIFUL BOY! I don't care what anyone says, Xenoblade 2 completely got robbed in this game! Curse you time/and development cycles! That Mii costume still stings!
No matter from which standpoint you look at it - as in, whether you like the game or not - Xenoblade 2 really shouldn't come to mind when you talk about games that got robbed, when you consider what other games are in the series.

torna is still pretty ok though
Oh, yeah. I did make that support thread for Team Lora, after all.
And Malos is a fun villain (if not a well-written one) that would make a nice Shulk echo.
 

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It's what it deserves chief
none of the xenoblade games are actually that good especially in comparison to the -saga games and the only reason i stan X is because it's the only one that even evoked the same feelings I got from the -saga series and Elma is super good and the soundtrack banged and that's the tea sis
 

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Everyone mourning Rex being costume’d

and I’m still not over Spring Man being an Assist Trophy

the game that actually WAS robbed was ARMS. Search your feelings, you know it to be true
 

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Alm, Celica, Hector, Lyn, Eirika and Ephraim, the three house leaders, and Ike from what I've heard.
I'd throw in Marth and Chrom, too, honestly. Shadow Dragon's writing did wonders for Marth and Chrom goes through like three different character arcs over the course of Awakening's story. They kinda get unfairly painted as generic by a lot of people.
 

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Everyone mourning Rex being costume’d

and I’m still not over Spring Man being an Assist Trophy

the game that actually WAS robbed was ARMS. Search your feelings, you know it to be true
Any ARMS rep would have been awesome. I really hope they don't give up on the series. It was a really cool idea and I had loads of fun with it during those big few months after release.
 

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No matter from which standpoint you look at it - as in, whether you like the game or not - Xenoblade 2 really shouldn't come to mind when you talk about games that got robbed, when you consider what other games are in the series.
Well considering the reasoning for XC2 not getting a fighter makes perfect sense (time constraints), I wouldn't argue it got robbed either. XCX however had no such constraints so robbed very much applies there, Elma not making it in while some plant does makes little sense to me. Though time constraints can't be really used as an excuse post-pass for XC2 anymore so who knows..

If anything, I hope we get a representative from both games so we both can be happy.
 

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I'd throw in Marth and Chrom, too, honestly. Shadow Dragon's writing did wonders for Marth and Chrom goes through like three different character arcs over the course of Awakening's story. They kinda get unfairly painted as generic by a lot of people.
People have to actively avoid Chrom's supports to call him generic.
He's a ****ing dumbass dork and I love him in them.
 

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Everyone mourning Rex being costume’d

and I’m still not over Spring Man being an Assist Trophy

the game that actually WAS robbed was ARMS. Search your feelings, you know it to be true
Any ARMS rep would have been awesome. I really hope they don't give up on the series. It was a really cool idea and I had loads of fun with it during those big few months after release.
I really hope ARMS gets more stuff in the future. The team looked very happy with what they were doing and the game had some good potential. Plus getting those songs in Smash would be cool, even if I'm more partial to characters other than Spring Man.
 

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We didn’t even get ARMS music... just spirits in addition to the Spring Man AT

and said AT doesn’t even appear in his spirit battle
 

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What actually got robbed was Wonderful 101.
Wonder Red with a Vorkken echo would be GOAT tier
 

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Well considering the reasoning for XC2 not getting a fighter makes perfect sense (time constraints), I wouldn't argue it got robbed either. XCX however had no such constraints so robbed very much applies there, Elma not making it in while some plant does makes little sense to me. Though time constraints can't be really used as an excuse post-pass for XC2 anymore so who knows..

If anything, I hope we get a representative from both games so we both can be happy.
I totally forgot about Elma. I thought she had the best chance to be Smash DLC during Smash 4 and it never happened! It would be nice to see both XB2 and XBX both get someone from the next pass of characters especially if its a mix of first and third! The reason I said it earlier is because it seemed like a series that Nintendo was pushing hard, so the fact that it didn't get much content in Ultimate still kind of surprises me.
 
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GoodGrief741

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What I'm seeing here is that so many Nintendo games got robbed.

I say we bring on an all-Nintendo Pass.
 

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I saw some discussion about Assassin's Creed earlier and I wanted to bring up an interesting point. If an AC rep got in then would they get the Hero treatment with multiple alt skins? If so then who would be the most likely assassins to get in? And who would your preferred assassins be?

My wish list would be Altair, Ezio, Connor, and Edward. I picked these four because they are related by blood to Desmond, so it makes them all the more relevant to the main conflict against the Templars. I stopped playing AC games after I got disappointed by Unity so I may not be up to date with the current storyline, but I do remember that Desmond played a pivotal role in the overarching story. That is why I want those four assassins the most. And also because they're from the only AC games I played and liked lol
 

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Everyone mourning Rex being costume’d

and I’m still not over Spring Man being an Assist Trophy

the game that actually WAS robbed was ARMS. Search your feelings, you know it to be true
Too many people put all their eggs on Spring Man being the only ARMS rep to get in first because he's "the face of ARMS."
Honestly, any ARMS fighter that could've gotten in first would've become "the face of ARMS," but fan rules dictated that it must be Spring Man, and when he got revealed as a Assist Trophy, the entire franchise's chances was dismissed.
Why default to Spring Man when you could add someone that's also got popularity under their belt? Someone like her....
 

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The fact that there are people who question Apex of the World being best Three Houses Final Boss theme staggers me.

It is best final boss theme and no one can change my mind lmao.
 

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Yeah, despite the fact that I would mainly prefer 3rd parties Edelgard getting in would be great if for no other reason than the music selection.

Apex of the World, God Shattering Star, Tearing Through Heaven...all would be great in Smash imo.
 

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Yeah, it could handle a port with worse resolution and framerate.
Which is what I was saying earlier. Switch can handle the games. They just won't be the definitive versions. At the very least, people can play them on the Switch if they so choose. So you previously saying 'Switch can't handle KOF' is blatantly false.
 

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Yeah, it could handle a port with worse resolution and framerate.
Said ports were initially considered "impossible" due to the games already being a handful for the PS4 and Xbox One.

If the Switch can run those two, it won't have any problems with The King of Fighters XV.
 

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ARMS didn't "get robbed." A game should have to do more than not suck to get playable representation in Smash.
 
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EricTheGamerman

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I do apologize for coming in hot on the AC issue earlier. I have a very complicated relationship with the franchise and just wish it actually achieved more of the potential it shows in its best moments (particularly Black Flag, but they just straight up made a pirate game at that point and the worst parts of that were traditional AC gameplay) and didn't constantly rely on its worst aspects to pad the run time (I also just don't see it as innovative, which isn't a bad thing per se, but it does feel like the early 2000s for games were thrown in a blender a bit). I still don't necessarily see the evidence for it being such a notable Western IP in Japan, but I did go too far in attacking that notion as well. I can't really deny Assassin's Creed is a huge series and would still be a huge get in Smash from basically any perspective, and hopefully we'd get some really good additional content with it like a stage.

I'm also probably a little more consciously less enthused with Western IPs because I just don't think there's much room for them in Ultimate at this point and there's a lot I'd personally prefer... but again, that's on me for taking that more rudely than I should have.
 
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