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Oh, for sure he'll come off as a literal who to some people, hence my joke. And I don't fault them for knowing Nintendo characters (or whatever Geno is) a lot better if that's their thing. I know Nintendo characters better than Valve characters, that's for sure.
I mean yeah of course it was a shocker but when you really stop to think about it and put everything together Joker does make a great deal of sense for Smash when you get past that first-level shock.
Being a SMT fan nowadays sure must be suffering.
I'll put it this way. I was more shocked that Joker's trailer was a Smash trailer than I was for Joker being in Smash.
Ever since Persona 3, SMT fans have been suffering. They will always suffer at this rate
My point is we were all shocked because none of us expected Joker. Why was that? Even though he and every other character has a presence on Nintendo in some way, it's clear any sense and justification we make up for characters is only after-the-fact. Ergo, the bar for what we can expect is always raised. I wouldn't discount literally any newcomer just because they weren't on a Nintendo console yet.
"He's too big!" -
I'm not necessarily discounting anyone just yet but moreso I kind of feel atm that going off of every guest inclusion we've gotten usually there's at least a connection of some form that justifies their inclusion in one way or another, which is why I think it's important to keep in mind when thinking about other inclusions.
I'm going to learn that there are still rules that exist no matter how many get broken. Such as Sakurai flat out stating Goku and Iron Man and other 4th Parties will NEVER be in Smash."He's too big!" -
"Too irrelevant!" -
"Too third party!" -
When are you all going to learn from these so called fan rules people makes up?
I feel you. Valve has zero Nintendo presence and Freeman, the 21st century realistic adult male, would stick out like a sore thumb, especially because Half Life would be the first FPS series (not counting Metroid) to be included in Smash.
. He would break the ****ing internet.Hey, that's my cue! What with the gnome Nolan North Ice Climbers (but with one original and four clones) trapping people in nets and beating them with shovels. With the catch that if one of the five (original or one of the clones) die they all die. I'd so pay for that in that hypotheoretical scenario - as practically impossible as that would be in Smash. And that's considering Meepo's micromanagement hell for anyone who hasn't mastered the character in his native game.
I suppose it's due tor differing interest in the characters / games themselves (for example, Halo is completely separated from Half Life in terms of setting, characters and gameplay focus despite the two being centered around human-alien conflict) mostly. Half Life's only known for its single player campaign, Halo has a legacy in multiplayer. Chief and Gordon differ as characters, etc.
What'd also be interesting is that he'd also be the very first character on the roster to be made completely in the West with no Japanese input whatsoever.I feel you. Valve has zero Nintendo presence and Freeman, the 21st century adult male, would stick out like a sore thumb, especially because Half Life would be the first FPS series (not counting Metroid) to be included in Smash.
But that's what makes the idea of his reveal that more tantalizing for me
And imagine if we got Portal and TF2 spirits along with him. Anything's possible after that.
staindgrey
) talks about seriously?
Gentlepanda
come at me with those copypastas.
now on the one hand, we could talk about capcom's extensive lineup of IPsI mean, I don’t actually think Gordon Freeman will be in Smash. I highly doubt that leak.
I just think the “connection to Nintendo” is more valid to fans than to Sakurai. Doesn’t mean it’s not important, but I don’t necessarily think it’s something that effects the actual decision making in a meaningful way.
One other thing. When it comes to that “Nintendo connection”, I have to point something that I have noticed. Guess what series actually has a pretty visible connection to Nintendo that a very small percentage of Smash fans (...basically me and
Mother****ing. Resident Evil.
Plenty of releases on Nintendo consoles, is the highest selling Japanese-created series not yet in Smash, has iconic characters (Leon, Chris, Jill), has plenty of gameplay potential (risk/reward, supply management, etc). Yet nobody, not even the “Nintendo connection” folks talk about it.
I don’t know if it’s bias or just general lack of knowledge of the series. But if it’s really about relationship with Nintendo, then I think it should be talked about more.
@Bolderousness and
Look man, I just don't agree with your support for Resident Evil. After all did you know that Resident Evil, known in Japan as Biohazard,[a] is a Japanese horror media franchise created by Shinji Mikami and Tokuro Fujiwara,[1][2] and owned by the video game company Capcom. The franchise focuses on a series of survival horror games and includes live-action films, animated films, comic books, novels, audio dramas, and merchandise. The story follows outbreaks of zombies and other monsters created mainly by the Umbrella Corporation.I mean, I don’t actually think Gordon Freeman will be in Smash. I highly doubt that leak.
I just think the “connection to Nintendo” is more valid to fans than to Sakurai. Doesn’t mean it’s not important, but I don’t necessarily think it’s something that effects the actual decision making in a meaningful way.
One other thing. When it comes to that “Nintendo connection”, I have to point something that I have noticed. Guess what series actually has a pretty visible connection to Nintendo that a very small percentage of Smash fans (...basically me and
Mother****ing. Resident Evil.
Plenty of releases on Nintendo consoles, is the highest selling Japanese-created series not yet in Smash, has iconic characters (Leon, Chris, Jill), has plenty of gameplay potential (risk/reward, supply management, etc). Yet nobody, not even the “Nintendo connection” folks talk about it.
I don’t know if it’s bias or just general lack of knowledge of the series. But if it’s really about relationship with Nintendo, then I think it should be talked about more.
@Bolderousness and
Chell for Smash instead of Gordan then. Always liked Portal more anyway.
Indeed. Can confirm Verge's Minecraft "source" was making it up for attention.It doesn't exist. It's a good thing Vergeben never actually backed it or else I would have believed it would be in the game.
Use your memory here. Vergeben had a source who said Minecraft content was in. However, he was never sure on it and frequently checked multiple times to verify what they meant. He never got a concrete answer and just repeated what that source said without any idea what he meant.
Users likeDaybreakHorizon
Scoliosis Jones confirmed that this source was fake in the end and was unrelated to any of Vergeben's main sources.
I really don't want either of those characters anymore than Gordan to be honest, for the same reasons.
Well I have to thank Vergeben’s source for kickstarting serious Steve and Minecraft discussion (even if Hitagi was the one who said Steve) and pushback against the haters.
I brought up Heavy, the post got a decent amount of likes, then no one raised him again; a fleeting moment of people agreeing with the objectively correct Valve choice.
Man you guys really had to do it to him back to back huh?
This would be a great oppurtunity for Capcom to pass up those said games. Resident Evil would definitely bring in more hype.
I think Sabi was acting like fool just for fun.
I'm hopeful that Mr Freeman gets into Smash, but I am going to assume this is fake until proven otherwise.
Could you please verify and provide links to these "other credible sources?"
This is quite funny, as people normally bring the upcoming Doom game as a reason as to why Doomguy is super likely but rarely I see people bringing it in regards of Resident Evil, which is known in Japan as Biohazard,[a] is a Japanese horror media franchise created by Shinji Mikami and Tokuro Fujiwara,[1][2] and owned by the video game company Capcom. The franchise focuses on a series of survival horror games and includes live-action films, animated films, comic books, novels, audio dramas, and merchandise. The story follows outbreaks of zombies and other monsters created mainly by the Umbrella Corporation.I mean, I don’t actually think Gordon Freeman will be in Smash. I highly doubt that leak.
I just think the “connection to Nintendo” is more valid to fans than to Sakurai. Doesn’t mean it’s not important, but I don’t necessarily think it’s something that effects the actual decision making in a meaningful way.
One other thing. When it comes to that “Nintendo connection”, I have to point something that I have noticed. Guess what series actually has a pretty visible connection to Nintendo that a very small percentage of Smash fans (...basically me and
Mother****ing. Resident Evil.
Plenty of releases on Nintendo consoles, is the highest selling Japanese-created series not yet in Smash, has iconic characters (Leon, Chris, Jill), has plenty of gameplay potential (risk/reward, supply management, etc). Yet nobody, not even the “Nintendo connection” folks talk about it.
I don’t know if it’s bias or just general lack of knowledge of the series. But if it’s really about relationship with Nintendo, then I think it should be talked about more.
@Bolderousness and
Like Devil May Cry or Phoenix Wright wouldn't? I can imagine lots of people who'd be excited for those characters. Specifically, Phoenix would be a win for the core/casual fanbases, and Dante would cause an internet explosion on the level of Bayonetta, if not larger since Devil May Cry is a larger series.
I don't think Orpheus was being serious lol.
The difference is that Master Chief has at least made presence on Nintendo system in form of Minecraft skin. Also, Microsoft has actually cooperated with Nintendo even before Banjo deal. I think that's what makes Gordon Freeman more shocking.
Only if his Final Smash is literally just this...
I'm pretty sure that's just a silly edit that someone made for a joke.
