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When did Vergeben ever say Steve was in the game? He only ever said Minecraft content could be in, and he was never 100% sure. Steve being in was something people pushed on him regardless of him saying multiple times "I don't know. Maybe, but probably not."
Let's see... assuming that Assist trophies can get promoted and it's characters I want rather than any outside factors like reality
Bandai Namco: KOS-MOS
Oh my god you people are unbelievable lol.
Konami: Snake, Simon, Bomberman, Frogger, Bill Rizer
THQ Nordic: Sgt. Cortez
Remember when he said Link Awakening wasn't getting a remake?
It doesn't exist. It's a good thing Vergeben never actually backed it or else I would have believed it would be in the game.
DaybreakHorizon
Scoliosis Jones
confirmed that this source was fake in the end and was unrelated to any of Vergeben's main sources.
Dude, you aren't even actually trying to discuss this or bring up any points. Your argument so far has literally been "You guys BELIEVE VERGEBEN? lololololo xDDDDDD"
We get it. Vergeben is **** outside of guessing fighters. What is your point? He got every fighter guess correct for the past year and a half and you somehow think he's irrelevant to Smash speculation now?
His leaks for other games have always been shaky, but when it comes to Smash I have no real reason to doubt what he says anymore.
Didn't he also get
right at the last minute?
I hope the rest of the DLC is going to be a mix of 1st Parties and 3rd Parties.
But not Vergeben, right y'all?
Are you familiar with the concept of a "joke"?
Honestly, credit for Banjo should go to PapaGenos. He was the first to speak up about it last year while the Grinch fiasco was going on.Didn't he also get
Capcom: Chun-Li, Phoenix Wright
Well, of course.
Probably. His Smash track record is great (other games is LOL nope), but I'm just saying... plans change, false info is thrown out to expose people like him, his info isn't the full picture (e.g. Erdrick), etc. And from what I've gathered post launch, by the time he 100% backs a claim, we already know who it is lol. He's definitely one of our Smash go-to guys for insider stuff, but for how long? There's nothing wrong with skepticism, is all. There's always a chance he won't know anything season 2 and/or onward.
You still haven't replied to my earlier post showing what he has gotten right, and how it could all be one big lucky guess.
I think it's also a joke, just a different brand of humor
Half of those characters were either leaked by Nintendo themselves or had every "insider" there is was already backing it.
I see what you mean, but I think Verge has proven to be the one guy in Smash speculation who earned the pivilege to be "right until proven wrong." At least for Fighter claims.
Can you provide sources for these claims? Nintendo did leak Simon, but that was after Verge had already claimed him before Ultimate was even revealed. Terry was never leaked by Nintendo, only the fact SNK was involved.
It’s hard to say if any leaks with Banjo were actually right. He was the easiest choice for people to get attention with since he was the most wanted character. Geno’s MS source would need to be right about something else to fully confirm that.
Microsoft: Master Chief
Bamco: KOS-MOS, Velvet Crowe
Yeah, I'll admit that pinning down who got Banjo first is tricky in my eyes. There's a lot of things that happened before the official reveal and it's hard to say 100% who got it first.
Literally every single insider was on the Ken/Incineroar train. Of course piggybacking off that was a safe bet. As for Hero, when you make it as vague as possible you can claim you were right when a character comes under the gigantic umbrella you put up. Snake and Ridley I don't know about, but both of them were always prime leak material anyway.
Hey, all the power to you. I never thought of it as likely, but it would be a unique take on beat em up characters if anything.
, I'd probably call DFO as 100 % confirmed for FP4 or 5 (because of Devil's Third being listed in that datamine too).Weren't most insiders saying that it was specifically Erdrick (Arusu)? That doesn't feel like a giant umbrella. Hell, Solo and Eight appearing caught people completely off guard, and Luminary was only in the background of speculation due to Erdrick IIRC.
Again...can you show me who said it all before Vergeben? "Every insider" said it? Who? I'm not being sarcastic right now: I am legitimately interested if you have hard, irrefutable proof all of Verge's claims were made by somebody else. Everyone here was saying Incineroar was leakbait. Vergeben was the only one on that hill during the Grinch Leak.
Konami: Snake, Simon, Bomberman, Frogger, pass
You're joking. I don't even claw at my desk waiting for the next thing leakers have to say like a lot of people here do and even I saw all the skeptics on twitter calling the Grinch leak fake. I know you post on twitter, come on man don't pretend you don't. That "y'all" doesn't lie lol.
Leak culture is absolute cancer, dunno what else to say. There's been no actual speculation for pretty much Ultimate's entire lifespan. You guys just wait for Vergeben or Sabi to do their usual "I know who it is but I'm not telling" shtick and eat it up like you don't even realize it. I have seen all of these things leaked on 4chan at one point or another, from "everyone is here" to Pirahna Plant literally within 24 hours of the November direct. Oh but people love to go "lol 4chan" as if a place where you don't have to give your identity away wouldn't be an ideal place to post your legit leaks. Nah, when you got a leak you go to twitter and try and gain followers lol.
That’s what I was thinking too. He did see what would eventually become Spirits right? He could have mistaken the Cubivore spirit for “Minecraft content”.
I think he already said that wasn’t it.
