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Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

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Plank08

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If anyone remembers the old icons I used to make (not the old old ones, the new old ones), I decided to make more:



Anybody who wants one, hmu.
If you don’t mind, could I request one? If these are hard to make then forget it but could you make a Sackboy one that I could add to my signature?
 

Calamitas

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Since the CSS' 91-square limit is a common point of discussion (As in, if there's more than 90 fighters on the CSS along with the random button the game crashes trying to load it due to how the layout file for the CSS is designed to only account for 91 squares), I decided to make some slight changes to Ultimate's params to show what a fully-stacked CSS of 90 fighters looks like.


Let it be known that I really don't think this limit means we're getting eleven more DLC fighters, but since it's something brought up on occasion I thought people might be curious about what it looks like.
Well that's certainly not what I meant when I said that I wanted first-party DLC.
 

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Sorry, before it gets too crazy, I meant if you want the link to one of those ones, lemme know. My bad, it wasn't very clear. I've done the request game before, it gets nuts.

But if enough people want a certain character I can probably get on it.
Oh my bad, could I get Links to the Geno, Doomslayer, Steve, Crash, and Master Chief one?
 

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Curious question to everyone, what are your genuine opinions on the “For Smash” accounts on Twitter?

I use to like them since they existed to push characters to be added in the game even for ones I didn’t want, I could atleast tell those characters had fans no matter how much I despised the idea of them.

But as of now, I’m finding them incredibly cringy and annoying because now there’s several accounts made for almost literally any character that exists no matter how stupid it is. (I mean really? Spongebob? Freddy? Jonesy? Roblox? Some ****ing character from an app game?”)
 
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Jassassino

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Curious question to everyone, what are your genuine opinions on the “For Smash” accounts on Twitter?
Annoying and need to stop. In a game with so many characters, begging and glorified trolling of video game developers seriously needs to stop and consider how needy they're being.

#Raziel4Smash
 

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Curious question to everyone, what are your genuine opinions on the “For Smash” accounts on Twitter?

I use to like them since they support to push characters to be added in the game even for ones I didn’t want, I could atleast tell those characters had fans no matter how much I despised the idea of them.

But as of now, I’m finding them incredibly cringy and annoying since there’s accounts for almost literally any character that exists no matter how stupid it is.
Depends really.
Some are fine and just keep to themselves while others seem to try to push their character everywhere regardless of if it's relevant or not.
 

King Sonnn DeDeDoo

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Curious question to everyone, what are your genuine opinions on the “For Smash” accounts on Twitter?
They're fine, many people don't use old school style forums, makes sense to have other locations for supporting characters for smash on other websites such as Twitter.

The only thing that annoys me is that many of them can be obnoxious, spamming every Nintendo related Tweet asking for their character in Smash.
 

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That is an awful idea. People have grown to really like some of the older veterans. Mario especially is a fantastic fighter to play as. Sets of minor changes like Link from 4 to Ult are fine, but fighters who people have grown to like should never be totally overhauled. That's inconsiderate. If you want new movesets, play the newcomers.
I've no interest in most of the newcomers. It's been long enough now that these moveset should be changed...at the very least to make them better represent the characters themselves. In a hypothetical Smash reboot this would be my number one want. Cut most of the cast, especially characters that aren't relevant to their series anymore, see ya Sheik, and completely revamp what's left.

Like I get people have grown to like them but I can't care to play as Mario if he hasn't changed since I played as him as a kid, or if half of his moveset is made up for Smash.
 

TheYungLink

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I just wish Samus had some projectiles in her normal attacks like Mega Man currently does. I suppose "projectiles as normals" is Mega Man's thing now, but seeing a ranged fighter like Samus use awkward kicks while in her Varia Suit is a relic of the pre Smash 4 days when (Snake's former down smash aside) the only attacks that could be projectiles were special moves.

Samus' current moveset can work well for what it is, especially since she recieved a bunch of buffs in Ultimate compared to Smash 4, but it still feels underwhelming now if you're used to her way of fighting in the Metroid games.
 

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I just wish Samus had some projectiles in her normal attacks like Mega Man currently does. I suppose "projectiles as normals" is Mega Man's thing now, but seeing a ranged fighter like Samus use awkward kicks while in her Varia Suit is a relic of the pre Smash 4 days when (Snake's former down smash aside) the only attacks that could be projectiles were special moves.

Samus' current moveset can work well for what it is, especially since she recieved a bunch of buffs in Ultimate compared to Smash 4, but it still feels underwhelming now if you're used to her way of fighting in the Metroid games.
Why is Mii Gunner a better Samus than Samus is.

When I played Metroid I didn't think "Man, if this character was in a fighting game, 90% of their moveset would consist of punching and kicking people."
These are cool. I’m just curious where Dante and Jill models come from
The Dante model comes from twitter user "Spooky Majora" who has been taking requests for smash characters and making renders for them.
I remember because I spent like 2 hours cutting the background out of that one to make a clean image, lol.

Not sure about Jill though.
 
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Godzillathewonderdog

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Why is Mii Gunner a better Samus than Samus is.

When I played Metroid I didn't think "Man, if this character was in a fighting game, 90% of their moveset would consist of punching and kicking people."


The Dante model comes from twitter user "Spooky Majora" who has been taking requests for smash characters and making renders for them.
I remember because I spent like 2 hours cutting the background out of that one to make a clean image, lol.

Not sure about Jill though.
Do you still have that clean image on you by any chance?
 

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Whenever I see those ridiculous character theory flowcharts, all I see is....

 
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Captain Fun

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Curious question to everyone, what are your genuine opinions on the “For Smash” accounts on Twitter?

I use to like them since they existed to push characters to be added in the game even for ones I didn’t want, I could atleast tell those characters had fans no matter how much I despised the idea of them.

But as of now, I’m finding them incredibly cringy and annoying because now there’s several accounts made for almost literally any character that exists no matter how stupid it is. (I mean really? Spongebob? Freddy? Jonesy? Roblox? Some ****ing character from an app game?”)
I usually find them kind of obnoxious. I never liked how people feel the need to “campaign” for their character and it just makes people look like fanatics. Doesn’t matter if it’s a character I like or not, I’ve never cared for the dogmatic approach.
 

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Curious question to everyone, what are your genuine opinions on the “For Smash” accounts on Twitter?

I use to like them since they existed to push characters to be added in the game even for ones I didn’t want, I could atleast tell those characters had fans no matter how much I despised the idea of them.

But as of now, I’m finding them incredibly cringy and annoying because now there’s several accounts made for almost literally any character that exists no matter how stupid it is. (I mean really? Spongebob? Freddy? Jonesy? Roblox? Some ****ing character from an app game?”)
It's a prime example of people caring way too damn much about video games as most of the people behind those accounts think "I like this thing" is a personality trait alongside the constant spamming they do
 

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Samus definitely deserves a Bowser-style rework. It sometimes feels like Samus Returns' melee mechanic was put in just to make Smash-Samus seem less inaccurate.

Project M let her 'crawl' by going into morphball mode, and being able to jump, drop bombs or boost in morphball would be a neat character specific gimmick, a general "enhanced crawl" only she gets. Letting her fire off uncharged shots rapidly and charge while moving would be good too. More movement options in general, really. For a character who can be incredibly agile in her home games with a long history of speedrunning, Smash Samus is weirdly slow. I'm not saying let her space-jump endlessly or shinespark back to the stage from anywhere in the blast zone or anything but if she was added today she would totally have those as hidden inputs.
 

Dalek_Kolt

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I've resigned myself to Samus's fate being forever shackled to the N64 moveset.
My bigger disappointment is that Ultimate Samus didn't take any cues from her appearance in Samus Returns, as not only is that suit awesome as hell, but it was wasted on a tiny 3DS screen and deserved the HD treatment.
Incidentally, when the roster inevitably gets cut down for the next Smash, my only request is that the N64/Melee characters that they do decide to keep get a makeover to put them more in line with 4/Ultimate's newcomers; Shooty Samus, thoroughly decloned Ganondorf, Ness with a non-janky recovery, etc.
 

Mushroomguy12

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Why is Mii Gunner a better Samus than Samus is.

When I played Metroid I didn't think "Man, if this character was in a fighting game, 90% of their moveset would consist of punching and kicking people."
The perfect solution.

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Some people use Mii Fighters to imagine playing their favorite character that didn't get in, but few have thought about using them to imagine playing their favorite characters that DID get in! Waluigi Mii? Isaac Mii? Ashley Mii? Dixie Mii? Rex Mii?


Naw, Samus Mii is where it's at.
 
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Guynamednelson

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The perfect solution.

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People use Mii Fighters to imagine playing their favorite character that didn't get in, but no one has thought about using them to imagine playing their favorite characters that DID get in! Waluigi Mii? Isaac Mii? Dixie Mii? Rex Mii?


Naw, Samus Mii is where it's at.
Something tells me that if Mii Fighters never happened, we'd just get 2 different newcomers and a reworked Samus.
 

TheYungLink

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Why is Mii Gunner a better Samus than Samus is.

When I played Metroid I didn't think "Man, if this character was in a fighting game, 90% of their moveset would consist of punching and kicking people."
Well again, Sakurai probably was like "all normal attacks shouldn't be projectiles" at the time of Smash 64. It's aged weirdly but it's understandable if unfortunate.

But yeah, I have a Mii Gunner in a Samus costume that I just call Better Samus.

Samus definitely deserves a Bowser-style rework. It sometimes feels like Samus Returns' melee mechanic was put in just to make Smash-Samus seem less inaccurate.

Project M let her 'crawl' by going into morphball mode, and being able to jump, drop bombs or boost in morphball would be a neat character specific gimmick, a general "enhanced crawl" only she gets. Letting her fire off uncharged shots rapidly and charge while moving would be good too. More movement options in general, really. For a character who can be incredibly agile in her home games with a long history of speedrunning, Smash Samus is weirdly slow. I'm not saying let her space-jump endlessly or shinespark back to the stage from anywhere in the blast zone or anything but if she was added today she would totally have those as hidden inputs.
I don't think she needs to be reworked too drastically, but at least more movement options would be great. Metroid games emphasize mobility, specifically mobility that Samus can only utilize while wearing her suit. Makes me wish that she matched ZSS' speed at the very least if not outright surpass it.

Also, I still wish Samus' down smash and down tilt were switched, with Samus' current 360° kick being a kick in front of her only, and the blast she currently does aimed at her feet for down tilt to cover both in front of and behind her as a down smash.
 
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DevaAshera

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Since we have no news on FP5 yet, here's a simple question for ya'll:

How many characters you wanted in Smash are currently in the Fighter Pass? Right now, I'm 0 - 4, which kills me inside that this Fighter Pass hasn't had anyone that I wanted to see.
Characters I wanted Pre-Reveal: 1/5 :ultjoker:
Character I loved Post-Release: 3/5 :ultjoker::ultbanjokazooie::ult_terry:
Sure, Banjo & Terry weren't and never really would have been in my 'Most Wanted' lists, but I still love their implementation into the series and find them very fun to play as as well.
Granted, as my avatar and signature show, my preference for an SNK rep would have been Athena Asamiya (lets admit, she's almost more of SNK's Poster Girl than even Mai Shiranui is given how many of her own games she's had or games she'd been the headliner of)..but I always knew it'd be Terry considering they even managed to put him in a female only game lol
 
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So November 21st is supposed to be the first rumored date for FP5(which has been called Nintendo Day), which is in 5 days.
 

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It's Speculated by some people as one of the three days FP5 will be revealed.

November 21st- Considered Nintendo's favorite day for some reason. A lot of major releases and events happen on this day.

December 7th- Ultimate's anniversary.

December 12th- Because of the Game Awards.
 
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DarthEnderX

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Sorry, before it gets too crazy, I meant if you want the link to one of those ones, lemme know. My bad, it wasn't very clear. I've done the request game before, it gets nuts.

But if enough people want a certain character I can probably get on it.
Well, I think we can ALL agree that we need Bill Rizer, Arthur and Kunio. Right guys?

They all said yes.
 
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It's Speculated by some people as one of the three days FP5 will be revealed.

November 21st- Considered Nintendo's favorite day for some reason. A lot of major releases and events happen on this day.

December 7th- Ultimate's anniversary.

December 12th- Because of the Game Awards.
21st seems quite...ambiguous if you ask me.
 

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It's Speculated by some people as one of the three days FP5 will be revealed.

November 21st- Considered Nintendo's favorite day for some reason. A lot of major releases and events happen on this day.

December 7th- Ultimate's anniversary.

December 12th- Because of the Game Awards.
Nintendo has never had a broadcast or direct on the 21st.
 
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If anyone remembers the old icons I used to make (not the old old ones, the new old ones), I decided to make more:



Anybody who wants one, hmu.
The thing that sells me is that you're not just plastering a well made render onto the template background. You actually mess with the render to where it actually looks like Smash Ultimate's engine.
 

Jomosensual

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If anyone remembers the old icons I used to make (not the old old ones, the new old ones), I decided to make more:



Anybody who wants one, hmu.
This is sick. Could you do one for Nathan Drake and Hollow Knight?
 

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If anyone remembers the old icons I used to make (not the old old ones, the new old ones), I decided to make more:

looks like my

Anybody who wants one, hmu.
I'd like it if you did any of Bandana Dee, Grovyle, or Maxwell Scribblenauts. I know you're getting swarmed with requests, so it's alright if it takes awhile.
 
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Curious question to everyone, what are your genuine opinions on the “For Smash” accounts on Twitter?

I use to like them since they existed to push characters to be added in the game even for ones I didn’t want, I could atleast tell those characters had fans no matter how much I despised the idea of them.

But as of now, I’m finding them incredibly cringy and annoying because now there’s several accounts made for almost literally any character that exists no matter how stupid it is. (I mean really? Spongebob? Freddy? Jonesy? Roblox? Some ****ing character from an app game?”)
I'd say they're a waste of time, but here I am: wasting my time telling you they're a waste of time.

As long as they're not being aggressive or annoying about it.
 
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